binman 44,792 Posted March 17, 2022 Posted March 17, 2022 9 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said: that was... not great and disappointing to hear him talk about a colleague in this manner What is this all about? 1
Vipercrunch 2,863 Posted March 17, 2022 Posted March 17, 2022 (edited) https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/tom-morris-leaked-audio-of-tom-morris-objectifying-female-staff-at-foxfooty-mysteriously-appears-on-the-internet-plus-second-nasty-video.1303307/ The two grabs of Morris (allegedly) are here. One is saying a female colleague from Fox is a lesbian (in very colorful language). The other is much worse where he says because he isn't black, Asian, a woman or gay, he shouldn't be treated badly. Appalling really. Complete side issue but someone has basically taken him out. I think his career is over. Edited March 17, 2022 by S_T
Gawndy the Great 9,011 Posted March 17, 2022 Posted March 17, 2022 Just now, binman said: What is this all about? He has been recorded without his knowledge or permission talking in a very misogynistic way about a female work colleague and this was leaked today. What he said has nothing to do with the Bevo saga and has probably been held onto for a while. Doesn’t excuse what he said and I think it’s the end of his employment with Fox Sports unless there is another twist to the story.
Sir Why You Little 37,450 Posted March 17, 2022 Posted March 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, S_T said: https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/tom-morris-leaked-audio-of-tom-morris-objectifying-female-staff-at-foxfooty-mysteriously-appears-on-the-internet-plus-second-nasty-video.1303307/ The two grabs of Morris (alledgedly) are here. He is in a bit of strife i think. He should no better than to speak into a strangers phone, when on the [censored] journalism 101
Rod Grinter Riot Squad 5,680 Posted March 17, 2022 Posted March 17, 2022 This is brilliant (in a Morris loses job kinda way), Tom Morris is screwed, adios [censored]. That said, heat will still be in Bevo 1
Vipercrunch 2,863 Posted March 17, 2022 Posted March 17, 2022 Just now, Sir Why You Little said: He is in a bit of strife i think. He should no better than to speak into a strangers phone, when on the [censored] journalism 101 Yeah, I think his career is over.
Guest Posted March 17, 2022 Posted March 17, 2022 27 minutes ago, CYB said: My guess is he will be cancelled. Cancelled? You mean fired, don't you?
Sir Why You Little 37,450 Posted March 17, 2022 Posted March 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, S_T said: Yeah, I think his career is over. Yes both those quotes are not at all good I am glad I left the Newsroom long before the Smartphone Anything can be recorded now Once it is out, it is International instantly
Gawndy the Great 9,011 Posted March 17, 2022 Posted March 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, Colin B. Flaubert said: Cancelled? You mean fired, don't you? Same thing these days Colin. Got to keep up with the lingo 😁
Gawndy the Great 9,011 Posted March 17, 2022 Posted March 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said: He is in a bit of strife i think. He should no better than to speak into a strangers phone, when on the [censored] journalism 101 Not defending him but the connection to his work colleague is circumstantial isn’t it? Who are we to say that video wasn’t doctored? It’s actually quite easy to do. The audio on the other hand is a bit trickier but with the right software AI it is not impossible.
Guest Posted March 17, 2022 Posted March 17, 2022 (edited) 28 minutes ago, CYB said: Same thing these days Colin. Got to keep up with the lingo 😁 Not really. From what I understand, being 'cancelled' comes about from expressing an opinion that, while potentially provocative or making some people uncomfortable, is considered and based on some form of empirical evidence which ultimately benefits the public good. Or in other cases, dogpiling by zealous people on those who may have misspoken or were misinterpreted. That's the kindest interpretation I can give. I'm not sure grossly and intentionally sexually objectifying your colleagues (might make it a bit uncomfortable for him to front up to her from this point onwards) and essentializing gay colleagues with puerile language many 14 year-olds might use fits into that. Who knows if he'll get sacked (as there is something unsavory about recording phone calls)? Either way, he does deserve a good kick up the @rze for being a misogynist dullard. If that's 'cancelling' him, then I'm comfortable with that. Edited March 17, 2022 by Colin B. Flaubert
Superunknown 4,246 Posted March 17, 2022 Posted March 17, 2022 7 minutes ago, CYB said: Not defending him but the connection to his work colleague is circumstantial isn’t it? Who are we to say that video wasn’t doctored? It’s actually quite easy to do. The audio on the other hand is a bit trickier but with the right software AI it is not impossible. How likely is it someone has deep faked this, for, *holds chair* Tom Morris. I mean the software is free and easily accessible, but, why bother. 1
Vipercrunch 2,863 Posted March 17, 2022 Posted March 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Colin B. Flaubert said: Not really. From what I understand, being cancelled comes about from expressing an opinion that, while potentially provocative or making some people uncomfortable, is considered and based on some form of empirical evidence which ultimately benefits the public good. That's the kindest interpretation I can give. I'm not sure grossly sexually objectifying your colleagues (might make it a bit uncomfortable for him to front up to her from this point onwards) and essentializing gay colleagues with puerile language many 14 year-olds might use fits into that. Who knows if he'll get sacked as there is something unsavory about recording phone calls? Either way, he does deserve a good kick up the @rze for being a misogynist dullard. If that's 'cancelling' him, then I'm comfortable with that. I think the other grab is worse. Where he suggests that because he isn't black, Asian, a woman or gay he shouldn't be treated badly. I think that is the one that costs him career. 1
Guest Posted March 17, 2022 Posted March 17, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, S_T said: I think the other grab is worse. Where he suggests that because he isn't black, Asian, a woman or gay he shouldn't be treated badly. I think that is the one that costs him career. Just heard it then. The sentiment here is that while Morris is a plonker, Bevo was out of line for his outburst. In light of this, Bevo was out of line based on the facts of that case in isolation. Morris is now confirmed as a grade A troglodyte who might want to crawl back under the rock he emerged from (and learn to watch his mouth when microphones are near). Edited March 17, 2022 by Colin B. Flaubert
Bates Mate 4,520 Posted March 17, 2022 Posted March 17, 2022 Morris might be in the outer after this minus his fox press pass
roy11 4,059 Posted March 17, 2022 Posted March 17, 2022 26 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said: He is in a bit of strife i think. He should no better than to speak into a strangers phone, when on the [censored] journalism 101 Probably did a voice recording as he didn't want someone to screenshot his message, but you can screen record anything on an iphone either way - easy to capture - 1
Smokey 4,391 Posted March 17, 2022 Posted March 17, 2022 Interesting strategic leak of the TM audio. I know it’s inappropriate, but I can’t be the only one who finds the term “liquor license” hilarious. Hadn’t heard that one before! 3
Dees2014 2,377 Posted March 17, 2022 Posted March 17, 2022 8 hours ago, WalkingCivilWar said: Uncle’s final resting place??? Soz, Dees2014, couldn’t resist. 😬 Serves me right for writing these posts in the middle of the night, and then not proof reading properly. Surprised there weren't others who corrected this. There is usually no shortage of pedantic posters on here,,,,,,,,,
Vipercrunch 2,863 Posted March 17, 2022 Posted March 17, 2022 9 minutes ago, Colin B. Flaubert said: Just heard it then. The sentiment here is that while Morris is a plonker, Bevo was out of line for his outburst. In light of this, Bevo was out of line based on the facts of that case in isolation. Morris is now confirmed as a grade A troglodyte who might want to crawl back under the rock he emerged from (and learn to watch his mouth when microphones are near). Yes, two completely unrelated things. Tom Morris is a clear moron but that in no way justifies or remotely explains why Bevo was so unhinged last night. 3
Sir Why You Little 37,450 Posted March 17, 2022 Posted March 17, 2022 20 minutes ago, CYB said: Not defending him but the connection to his work colleague is circumstantial isn’t it? Who are we to say that video wasn’t doctored? It’s actually quite easy to do. The audio on the other hand is a bit trickier but with the right software AI it is not impossible. I don’t think either of those clips have been doctored. The inflections and breathing are all correct, no edits. I just think he spoke when he shouldn’t have. it’s a dangerous world now. Everything can be recorded and sent Silently within seconds
Gawndy the Great 9,011 Posted March 17, 2022 Posted March 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, Superunknown said: How likely is it someone has deep faked this, for, *holds chair* Tom Morris. I mean the software is free and easily accessible, but, why bother. Have you been to the footy? I come across opposition supporters that are so deeply invested in their footy clubs that something like this would not surprise me at all. There are some really bizarre characters in our society and my 10 year old son could probably do a deep fake. If he has genuinely said that, then he deserves what is coming obviously.
sue 9,277 Posted March 17, 2022 Posted March 17, 2022 So you have to wonder who has been sitting on this horrid audio of Morris and decided to leak it today presumable to take the heat off Bevo. Presumably a mate of Bevio or the Dogs. 1
Dees2014 2,377 Posted March 17, 2022 Posted March 17, 2022 1 minute ago, S_T said: Yes, two completely unrelated things. Tom Morris is a clear moron but that in no way justifies or remotely explains why Bevo was so unhinged last night. Morris is doing his job. He is a journo after all - their job is to find out stuff others are trying to hide but others have an interest in finding out. It has always been thus. The AFL as a community can be incredibly precious sometimes...... 9
hardtack 11,104 Posted March 17, 2022 Posted March 17, 2022 I liked the description given by a friend… a case of Feud and Beveridge. 3 1
Sir Why You Little 37,450 Posted March 17, 2022 Posted March 17, 2022 17 minutes ago, CYB said: Have you been to the footy? I come across opposition supporters that are so deeply invested in their footy clubs that something like this would not surprise me at all. There are some really bizarre characters in our society and my 10 year old son could probably do a deep fake. If he has genuinely said that, then he deserves what is coming obviously. CYB are you saying that a 3rd person could record themselves and “Sound like” Tom Morris with the use of an App?
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