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[BAMF 4,387]

Fantastic! Next year will be the perfect time for us to draft a young inside mid. Sounds like he could play forward early on.

Hoping we trade all future first picks to this year. Might need to bring in some future late picks 

[dazzledavey36 55,361]

1 hour ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

Any chance he'll grow to about 200cm's ?

Ha.. Kynan is listed at 180cm.

[whatwhat say what 22,949]

sounds like he's a 'pure' midfielder 

we need all the quality depth in there we can get

[IvanBartul13 2,564]

He's a left footer, played mostly in the guts and a bit on the wing on the weekend for the Chargers.  Their team had a number of high profile players missing and they gave games to some of their under 16 players, including defender Doug Kerr who was probably their best player and is an extremely exciting prospect for the 2024 draft.  Kynan is only small like his dad, but links play up well and is a good and simple decision maker with clean enough hands.  His best attribute is probably his speed, when he gets ball in hand he has a good burst of acceleration that can put two or three yards on an opponent from nowhere.  The knock is probably going to be on his kicking, it's not awful but its not damaging.  

All in all probably a similar player to his dad but probably with more of an attacking bent - a small, quick, hardworking goer. 

I'd be surprised if he's a high draft pick next year that has us being seen to be exploiting the draft system, but wouldn't be surprised if he was in Vic Metro's squad next year and then was on our list in some way, shape or form come year's end.

 

 

[dazzledavey36 55,361]

6 hours ago, IvanBartul13 said:

He's a left footer, played mostly in the guts and a bit on the wing on the weekend for the Chargers.  Their team had a number of high profile players missing and they gave games to some of their under 16 players, including defender Doug Kerr who was probably their best player and is an extremely exciting prospect for the 2024 draft.  Kynan is only small like his dad, but links play up well and is a good and simple decision maker with clean enough hands.  His best attribute is probably his speed, when he gets ball in hand he has a good burst of acceleration that can put two or three yards on an opponent from nowhere.  The knock is probably going to be on his kicking, it's not awful but its not damaging.  

All in all probably a similar player to his dad but probably with more of an attacking bent - a small, quick, hardworking goer. 

I'd be surprised if he's a high draft pick next year that has us being seen to be exploiting the draft system, but wouldn't be surprised if he was in Vic Metro's squad next year and then was on our list in some way, shape or form come year's end.

 

 

Watched some vision of his from the weekends game.

I think you have summed it up well. His speed and attack on the footy is impressive for an under-ager. 

I dont think he's a first rounder for next year but he's certainly an early to mid 2nd rounder in my opinion. He form in the NAB League as an under-age is actually pretty impressive and I think with another pre season under his belt and exposure through the Vic Metro will potentially push him up the charts.

Next year he'll play a more permanent midfield role as this year he's had a mix of more half forward and midfield due to someone the big names that's playing there this year.

The way he moves and zips around reminds me of Josh Daicos.

[manny100 1,603]

Not getting carries away at this stage but Kyan Brown tracking quite well as an under ager for Oakleigh Chargers.

See link below and scroll down to Western Jets Vs Oakleigh Chargers.

Listed as a game key player and 3rd in medal votes.

Going ok for an under ager.

2022 NAB League Boys snapshot: Round 15 - Aussie Rules Rookie Me Central

Kynan Brown (Oakleigh Chargers) – 29 disposals, 8 marks, 6 inside 50s, 1 goal

[dazzledavey36 55,361]

 

[daisycutter 29,743]

On 11/27/2021 at 8:45 PM, manny100 said:

From a  9th May 2018 AFL Website article on Father/Sons:

Watch list: 

Jeff White's son Kalani, 11, is another the club is keeping an eye on while he plays his footy for Surfers Paradise in Queensland. White also has twin sons named Kai and Tahj, still only seven years old. Adem Yze's son Noah, 12, Aaron Davey's son Marley, 8, David Schwarz's son Cooper, 14 and Shane Woewodin's son Taj, 15, are others on the Demons' radar, although admittedly they are all very young. Defender Nathan Brown also has three sons – Kynan, 13, Jake, 11, a talented soccer player, and Ryder, 9.  

Past father-son successes: 

Todd and Jack Viney are the club's major success story, with father and son both winners of the Demons' best and fairest award (1993, 1998 and 2016 respectively). Steven and Billy Stretch, Ron Barassi snr and jnr, Alan and Chris Johnson and Glenn Molloy and Graham Molloy are other examples of Melbourne's father-son combinations. - Ben Guthrie

any news on cooper schwartz? should be 18 this year

[dazzledavey36 55,361]

1 hour ago, daisycutter said:

any news on cooper schwartz? should be 18 this year

Has gone down the basketball path.

[IvanBartul13 2,564]

6 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

 

Fairly certain the guy that wrote that wasn't at nor watched the game in some other form.

Edited August 11, 2022 by IvanBartul13

[Whispering_Jack 30,674]

13 hours ago, IvanBartul13 said:

Fairly certain the guy that wrote that wasn't at nor watched the game in some other form.

Regrettably, this is a problem these days with some of those who cover this area.

However, I believe that Brown has been selected to play in the Vic Metro Under 17 Future stars team on Sunday.

[layzie 34,014]

Would love to get a look at his game, sounds like he's tracking nicely. You don't lose any friends being a workhorse.

[Wrecker46 3,020]

14 hours ago, IvanBartul13 said:

Fairly certain the guy that wrote that wasn't at nor watched the game in some other form.

That's no nothing. I don't reckon that the tribunal that deliberated for 4.5 hours even watched the Cripps incident.

[IvanBartul13 2,564]

2 hours ago, layzie said:

Would love to get a look at his game, sounds like he's tracking nicely. You don't lose any friends being a workhorse.

Here is the match, Layzie.

Kynan is wearing number 44.

https://www.afl.com.au/ondemand/highlights/754216/2022-nab-league-boys?episode=1#round-15

Other players of note are:

Chargers -

13 Nathan Philactides - Vic Metro bottom ager like Kynan rebounding defender/wingman

41 Doug Kerr - 15 year old defender, impressive!

34 Tom Gross - another highly rated 15 year old, midfield/half forward

Western Jets 

53 Logan Morris - Bottom Ager like Kynan Key Forward who I think will be first rounder next year.

41 Jake Smith - bottom age midfielder.

 

[layzie 34,014]

2 hours ago, IvanBartul13 said:

Here is the match, Layzie.

Kynan is wearing number 44.

https://www.afl.com.au/ondemand/highlights/754216/2022-nab-league-boys?episode=1#round-15

Other players of note are:

Chargers -

13 Nathan Philactides - Vic Metro bottom ager like Kynan rebounding defender/wingman

41 Doug Kerr - 15 year old defender, impressive!

34 Tom Gross - another highly rated 15 year old, midfield/half forward

Western Jets 

53 Logan Morris - Bottom Ager like Kynan Key Forward who I think will be first rounder next year.

41 Jake Smith - bottom age midfielder.

 

Beautiful! Will get stuck into this right now, cheers!

[BAMF 4,387]

3 hours ago, IvanBartul13 said:

Here is the match, Layzie.

Kynan is wearing number 44.

https://www.afl.com.au/ondemand/highlights/754216/2022-nab-league-boys?episode=1#round-15

Other players of note are:

Chargers -

13 Nathan Philactides - Vic Metro bottom ager like Kynan rebounding defender/wingman

41 Doug Kerr - 15 year old defender, impressive!

34 Tom Gross - another highly rated 15 year old, midfield/half forward

Western Jets 

53 Logan Morris - Bottom Ager like Kynan Key Forward who I think will be first rounder next year.

41 Jake Smith - bottom age midfielder.

 

Earlier you mentioned that you think he will more likely be a second round pick.

I assume that as he is pulling big numbers and being named in the best teams whilst being an underager that he would excel further when he is playing agaisnt kids his own age next year. Therefore, I assume that he would be a certainty to be a first rounder. 

Is this a bit of an over simplification on my part?

[Sydee 4,529]

3 hours ago, IvanBartul13 said:

Here is the match, Layzie.

Kynan is wearing number 44.

https://www.afl.com.au/ondemand/highlights/754216/2022-nab-league-boys?episode=1#round-15

Other players of note are:

Chargers -

13 Nathan Philactides - Vic Metro bottom ager like Kynan rebounding defender/wingman

41 Doug Kerr - 15 year old defender, impressive!

34 Tom Gross - another highly rated 15 year old, midfield/half forward

Western Jets 

53 Logan Morris - Bottom Ager like Kynan Key Forward who I think will be first rounder next year.

41 Jake Smith - bottom age midfielder.

 

Thanks IB13 - agree that Kerr looks to have some ability 

[IvanBartul13 2,564]

1 hour ago, BAMF said:

Earlier you mentioned that you think he will more likely be a second round pick.

I assume that as he is pulling big numbers and being named in the best teams whilst being an underager that he would excel further when he is playing agaisnt kids his own age next year. Therefore, I assume that he would be a certainty to be a first rounder. 

Is this a bit of an over simplification on my part?

You make a reasonable assumption in theory, but it's of course a little more nuanced than that.  Firstly, Brown is a January birthday so he will be one of the oldest players in his draft pool next year.  That means 'in theory' he is better able to cope with the demands of NAB football this year and also 'in theory' that he is less likely to have physical development improvement year to year.  It also 'in theory' means there a lot of players who with the more likelihood of added development (experience, growth et centera) could catapult over him.  There are players drafted every year who club's over-rate or draft higher because they are born later and have that theoretical more improvement.  I don't think the above is true of Kynan, because is small and seems like he will grow a bit more and has some upsize, but it is relevant as a response to your question.

The problem for Brown's draft standing is he is small, not an elite kick and likely to project to play at AFL level, some of the least difficult roles to fill (wing/flanker type) These are the things that hurt the loftiness of his likely draft position.

He's a good little player, but there a likely to be quite a few of them available.   At this stage I can think of 20 players who have showed more promise or who I think AFL clubs would likely covet more and I'm confident would be ranked ahead of him at this stage.  That takes into account no WA players and none of the players tied to interstate academies.  There will be a lot of players come from the clouds next year too.

It's possible there were five players playing in the Jets v Oakleigh game that will be drafted ahead of him next year.  It's not likely but it is possible.

Its also possible he could put on 5kg, grow an inch or two, and average 35 per game and be seen as a poor man's Sam Walsh and go top 20.

I just don't see, at the moment, many clubs desperate to use an early pick on an undersized wingman, without elite footskills. 

[Sigil 1,001]

8 hours ago, Wrecker46 said:

That's no nothing. I don't reckon that the tribunal that deliberated for 4.5 hours even watched the Cripps incident.

Let's them keep an open mind I guess haha.

[BAMF 4,387]

37 minutes ago, IvanBartul13 said:

You make a reasonable assumption in theory, but it's of course a little more nuanced than that.  Firstly, Brown is a January birthday so he will be one of the oldest players in his draft pool next year.  That means 'in theory' he is better able to cope with the demands of NAB football this year and also 'in theory' that he is less likely to have physical development improvement year to year.  It also 'in theory' means there a lot of players who with the more likelihood of added development (experience, growth et centera) could catapult over him.  There are players drafted every year who club's over-rate or draft higher because they are born later and have that theoretical more improvement.  I don't think the above is true of Kynan, because is small and seems like he will grow a bit more and has some upsize, but it is relevant as a response to your question.

The problem for Brown's draft standing is he is small, not an elite kick and likely to project to play at AFL level, some of the least difficult roles to fill (wing/flanker type) These are the things that hurt the loftiness of his likely draft position.

He's a good little player, but there a likely to be quite a few of them available.   At this stage I can think of 20 players who have showed more promise or who I think AFL clubs would likely covet more and I'm confident would be ranked ahead of him at this stage.  That takes into account no WA players and none of the players tied to interstate academies.  There will be a lot of players come from the clouds next year too.

It's possible there were five players playing in the Jets v Oakleigh game that will be drafted ahead of him next year.  It's not likely but it is possible.

Its also possible he could put on 5kg, grow an inch or two, and average 35 per game and be seen as a poor man's Sam Walsh and go top 20.

I just don't see, at the moment, many clubs desperate to use an early pick on an undersized wingman, without elite footskills. 

Thankyou. Great response and paint a great picture of the type of player he is

[manny100 1,603]

1 hour ago, IvanBartul13 said:

You make a reasonable assumption in theory, but it's of course a little more nuanced than that.  Firstly, Brown is a January birthday so he will be one of the oldest players in his draft pool next year.  That means 'in theory' he is better able to cope with the demands of NAB football this year and also 'in theory' that he is less likely to have physical development improvement year to year.  It also 'in theory' means there a lot of players who with the more likelihood of added development (experience, growth et centera) could catapult over him.  There are players drafted every year who club's over-rate or draft higher because they are born later and have that theoretical more improvement.  I don't think the above is true of Kynan, because is small and seems like he will grow a bit more and has some upsize, but it is relevant as a response to your question.

The problem for Brown's draft standing is he is small, not an elite kick and likely to project to play at AFL level, some of the least difficult roles to fill (wing/flanker type) These are the things that hurt the loftiness of his likely draft position.

He's a good little player, but there a likely to be quite a few of them available.   At this stage I can think of 20 players who have showed more promise or who I think AFL clubs would likely covet more and I'm confident would be ranked ahead of him at this stage.  That takes into account no WA players and none of the players tied to interstate academies.  There will be a lot of players come from the clouds next year too.

It's possible there were five players playing in the Jets v Oakleigh game that will be drafted ahead of him next year.  It's not likely but it is possible.

Its also possible he could put on 5kg, grow an inch or two, and average 35 per game and be seen as a poor man's Sam Walsh and go top 20.

I just don't see, at the moment, many clubs desperate to use an early pick on an undersized wingman, without elite footskills. 

Knighmare on Bigfoooty tipped him as a 2nd or 3rd rounder some ago. Its appears he has improved significantly since first selected for the Chargers. He started as a half back and moved into the midfield. He makes up for lack of size with toughness and hard at it play - the things that Goody likes. Goody also likes that together with footskills - Bowey.  Footskills are the difference between 1st round and the following rounds.

You are right it all depends on whether he can again rise to another level next season.

I would say if he continues improving he will be drafted to the Dees for sure.

  

 

[whatwhat say what 22,949]

The fact that he’s in the guts and pulling down these sorts of numbers as an under-ager is very encouraging

[dazzledavey36 55,361]

Kynan Brown representing Vic Metro in the under 17's Futures game.

 

[BLWNBA 1,123]

35 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Kynan Brown representing Vic Metro in the under 17's Futures game.

 

Absolute dead ringer for his old man in that first photo!

[Whispering_Jack 30,674]

Played well at the weekend for Vic Metro vs Queensland in the Under 17 Futures. Here’s how his performance was described in Rookie Me Central ~

“#7 Kynan Brown (Oakleigh Chargers)
13/01/2005 | 180cm | Midfielder

Brown, a father-son candidate for Melbourne (son of Nathan), slotted straight into Metro’s midfield and had little trouble getting his hands on the ball. Though he possesses a punchy kick, he looked more slick by hand than foot, and used that to his advantage when helping his side work away from the centre bounces. A natural ball winner with strong bursts of speed, Brown was a consistent figure in the Big V.”