If we can't beat Geelong , it's a failure now.   We are best team left by at least 3 goals

7 hours ago, kev martin said:

Gee I really ruffle your feathers @faultydet, you offer a vomit emoji to me because I don’t see winning as the prime object in sport or in life. 

My ideology is play fair and share, enjoy the challenge and compete with gusto. Winning, nah, usually can't even be bothered keeping score when I play. The word play as I like it defined: "engage in activity for enjoyment and recreation rather than a serious or practical purpose."

Wow, caught up in the illusion of needing to be at the pinnacle so as to be satisfied!

If that is the attitude of an adult, would much rather be seen as having a teenagers mind set.

 

Thank Christ the club and its current players don't share this mindset. Winning Premierships is not just about the satisfaction of current supporters and members. It's about the long term prosperity and indeed survivability of the club's themselves.

How long do you think Gold Coast or GWS will be around if they only play for fun and not to win? It's the essence of Professional sport.

Strange mindset mate.

Anything other than the premiership will be shattering from this point 

Now that I know we are playing Geelong, the answer is no. 
The only thing I hate more than Covid is Geelong. 

1 hour ago, faultydet said:

Thank Christ the club and its current players don't share this mindset. Winning Premierships is not just about the satisfaction of current supporters and members. It's about the long term prosperity and indeed survivability of the club's themselves.

How long do you think Gold Coast or GWS will be around if they only play for fun and not to win? It's the essence of Professional sport.

Strange mindset mate.

Why is a view that is different to yours a strange mindset? Why use a condescending manner? Are you upset with me because of the way I think? As I said, seems my outlook has ruffled your feathers.  

I am not speaking for the club or the players, I am speaking about what gives me satisfaction, 

Those who want to climb to the top of Mt. Everest can do it and I will applaud them. Whether it is MFC or not.

I however, would be grateful just to get to Nepal. I am grateful to see MFC play matches, and enjoy, no matter the outcome.

Most ambitious people don't share my view of wanting and accepting the average.

For me average is a great place to be.

Maintenance is more valuable to me than achievements.

So long as I have a cosy place to sleep, and food, then I am pretty satisfied. Many in this world don't have that every day. I am grateful for the small things.

The world beaters, have all their priorities askew, and I believe have really stuffed "it" up, in their quest to outdo each other. From the politics of gender, class and race, to our environment, to the structure and use of commodities, capital and power.

There is no room for many to enjoy this sacred thing, life. As the many are repulsed by the competitive,  uncompassionate, hedonistic winner take all approach to being, creating a world of far too much suffering. 

Not satisfied unless we win more! How oblivious to the real world can you be!

By the way, how do you know the mindset of the AFL players?

You can win and play for fun at the same time, it is a game.

 

Edited September 4, 20213 yr by kev martin

No, we need to win the Premiership this year.

I could cop a loss if it was against the Giants.

I simply cannot cop this against Geelong. Out of all teams, I can't just fathom the though of losing to Geelong and letting it eat inside of me for 6 months.

17 minutes ago, Pollyanna said:

No, we need to win the Premiership this year.

Absolutely.

The opportunities don't get any better than this year.  WE finished top of the ladder.  WE are the best side in the competition.  We have a full list available to play.  This is it.

10 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

I could cop a loss if it was against the Giants.

I simply cannot cop this against Geelong. Out of all teams, I can't just fathom the though of losing to Geelong and letting it eat inside of me for 6 months.

Having lived in that neck of the woods on numerous occasions, I don’t hate the region as such. There is much to admire about that football club (as a whole) from 1999 onwards.

However, ever since 1988 when I first started watching footy, these blokes have consistently clowned us. 

Those trips to Kardinia Park from 2008 to 2015 (when we finally broke through for a W) were absolutely soul destroying stuff. Hell, James Kelly once pretended he was having a nap during the singing of the club song while Gary Junior chortled along with him.

Usually, experienced players would avoid that as it could come back to bite them later. But we were in no position to bite back, so it was all like water off a duck’s back.

This reminds me of the Lakers (us)vs. Celtics (them) in the 1985 NBA finals. We are the young, exciting up comers and they are the battle hardened pros who don’t take us seriously.

We need to make them take us seriously.

The question is would we be happy with season 2021 when the smoke settles and to that I would say yes.

If the question was are we happy with missing a golden opportunity then no. Need to seize the moment. 

Edited September 4, 20213 yr by layzie

20 minutes ago, Colin B. Flaubert said:

This reminds me of the Lakers (us)vs. Celtics (them) in the 1985 NBA finals. We are the young, exciting up comers and they are the battle hardened pros who don’t take us seriously.

We need to make them take us seriously.

Love the comparison and love being the Lakers! :)

1 hour ago, kev martin said:

Why is a view that is different to yours a strange mindset? Why use a condescending manner? Are you upset with me because of the way I think? As I said, seems my outlook has ruffled your feathers.  

I am not speaking for the club or the players, I am speaking about what gives me satisfaction, 

Those who want to climb to the top of Mt. Everest can do it and I will applaud them. Whether it is MFC or not.

I however, would be grateful just to get to Nepal. I am grateful to see MFC play matches, and enjoy, no matter the outcome.

Most ambitious people don't share my view of wanting and accepting the average.

For me average is a great place to be.

Maintenance is more valuable to me than achievements.

So long as I have a cosy place to sleep, and food, then I am pretty satisfied. Many in this world don't have that every day. I am grateful for the small things.

The world beaters, have all their priorities askew, and I believe have really stuffed "it" up, in their quest to outdo each other. From the politics of gender, class and race, to our environment, to the structure and use of commodities, capital and power.

There is no room for many to enjoy this sacred thing, life. As the many are repulsed by the competitive,  uncompassionate, hedonistic winner take all approach to being, creating a world of far too much suffering. 

Not satisfied unless we win more! How oblivious to the real world can you be!

By the way, how do you know the mindset of the AFL players?

You can win and play for fun at the same time, it is a game.

 

What a strange rant Kev.

I just want the Dees to win this year's flag and won't be satisfied if we fail to achieve that.

I couldn't give a rip about anyone's feelings on other stuff. That's your business.

 

 

2 hours ago, Pollyanna said:

No, we need to win the Premiership this year.

Totally agree. Everything has come together perfectly for us this year - form, injury, the club humming at every level, everything. We may never get an opportunity as ripe as this one.

Without a doubt, it would be the one that got away.

No pressure boys!

On 9/3/2021 at 10:26 AM, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Yes. Satisfied but not happy.

We were projected to finish outside the 8 according to many scribes, and most of us had us finishing 5th - 8th with a possible finals win. We've smashed those expectations and the next 5 years look very promising for this reasonably young but highly talented list. 

And despite what others think, I think we've got some stiff competition in Port and Bulldogs who schooled us in round 19 so it's not our flag to lose. Those two are our major threats. Not to mention if Geelong click on prelim night.

 

The first line pretty much sums up my position, if it were to be the case.

As we all know flags are hard to win and we’ve earned a great opportunity, which from here would very much be a missed one if we were not to win it now

On 9/3/2021 at 12:26 PM, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Yes. Satisfied but not happy.

We were projected to finish outside the 8 according to many scribes, and most of us had us finishing 5th - 8th with a possible finals win. We've smashed those expectations and the next 5 years look very promising for this reasonably young but highly talented list. 

I’m not basing my satisfaction levels on what my expectations were half a year ago. Since then I’ve seen 23 games of footy that have justified turning the expectations dial up to 100. 

I’m definitely glad, excited and proud that we’ve gotten this far, but I’ll be bummed if we’re not able to finish the job from here.

3 hours ago, kev martin said:

Why is a view that is different to yours a strange mindset? Why use a condescending manner? Are you upset with me because of the way I think? As I said, seems my outlook has ruffled your feathers.  

I am not speaking for the club or the players, I am speaking about what gives me satisfaction, 

Those who want to climb to the top of Mt. Everest can do it and I will applaud them. Whether it is MFC or not.

I however, would be grateful just to get to Nepal. I am grateful to see MFC play matches, and enjoy, no matter the outcome.

Most ambitious people don't share my view of wanting and accepting the average.

For me average is a great place to be.

Maintenance is more valuable to me than achievements.

So long as I have a cosy place to sleep, and food, then I am pretty satisfied. Many in this world don't have that every day. I am grateful for the small things.

The world beaters, have all their priorities askew, and I believe have really stuffed "it" up, in their quest to outdo each other. From the politics of gender, class and race, to our environment, to the structure and use of commodities, capital and power.

There is no room for many to enjoy this sacred thing, life. As the many are repulsed by the competitive,  uncompassionate, hedonistic winner take all approach to being, creating a world of far too much suffering. 

Not satisfied unless we win more! How oblivious to the real world can you be!

By the way, how do you know the mindset of the AFL players?

You can win and play for fun at the same time, it is a game.

 

Failure requires no Preparation 

2 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Failure requires no Preparation 

 

Many fail, because of the preparation. Habits take alot of time to perfect. Habits lead to addiction and addictions can destroy us, by creating dysfunction and prioritising some behaviours that interfere with things we should be doing.

I would also suggest that high flyers have difficulty adjusting once the razzle dazzle subsides. They were driven to attaining one type of thing and forgot to gain wisdom on how to live contently.

Prepare yourself to deal with failure. 

Edited September 4, 20213 yr by kev martin

4 hours ago, faultydet said:

I just want the Dees to win this year's flag and won't be satisfied if we fail to achieve that.

You also want others to think like you. You give no room for some who don’t need to win everything to be satisfied, as shown by your vomit emoji to me.

Edited September 4, 20213 yr by kev martin

12 minutes ago, kev martin said:

You also want others to think like you. You give no room for some who doesn't need to win everything to be satisfied, as shown by your vomit emoji to me.

So you don’t care if we win the Flag or not?

On 9/3/2021 at 12:51 PM, Pates said:

I’ve said no. I think years down the track I would recognise this was an excellent season but this is far and away the best opportunity we’ve had in decades. To not take this chance to get into a GF would be a very bitter pill to swallow. 

Definitely our best since 1964.

I would later reflect that this was a great season where we achieved so much, but if we lost I’d see this as the biggest chance we got that we let slip. We can’t take for granted we’ll get this chance again. They already did in 1965.

Never in my life have I ever feel we have a greater chance to win the premiership and this is the first time in my lifetime we’ve been the favourites to take it. We’re so close I can feel it. If we miss this we might never get another chance. My dad and uncle have waited 57 years. My mother never lived to see it. Our time is now. We can’t blow this.

11 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

So you don’t care if we win the Flag or not?

Good if we do win, as it will bring some moments of joy, but losing is not uncomfortable for me,

There will be some disappointment, but on a whole this season has already given plenty.

Edited September 4, 20213 yr by kev martin

I’ll be a little disappointed if we don’t win four in a row and wipe out 1958 memories but I’m enjoying the ride this year

14 hours ago, kev martin said:

Gee I really ruffle your feathers @faultydet, you offer a vomit emoji to me because I don’t see winning as the prime object in sport or in life. 

My ideology is play fair and share, enjoy the challenge and compete with gusto. Winning, nah, usually can't even be bothered keeping score when I play. The word play as I like it defined: "engage in activity for enjoyment and recreation rather than a serious or practical purpose."

Wow, caught up in the illusion of needing to be at the pinnacle so as to be satisfied!

If that is the attitude of an adult, would much rather be seen as having a teenagers mind set.

 

Personally I feel sorry for those who will only be satisfied/happy/whatever if we win the big one. Enjoy the ride is what I say. Regardless of the destination, ie., flag or no flag, getting there is always more than half the fun. 

Wouldn’t it be a shame not to get of seasons review DVD that you get when you win the premiership. They don’t do that for just making the finals anymore, so all these wonderful highlights will never be properly captured. I want to relive them over and over again already 

25 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

So you don’t care if we win the Flag or not?

That wasn’t the OP’s question. The question is will you be satisfied if we go down in the prelim? You oughtn’t begrudge someone the joy of the incredible journey this season’s been despite not winning the flag.