COVID & AFL 2021

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,811]

I note that McGowan didn't actually say June. Rather, that's how Sky News reported it. He actually said first half of the year, so it could open on 1 January 2022. 

[old dee 23,792]

49 minutes ago, binman said:

That worries me.

When we win the flag next year it will always have an asterix given only 16 teams played.

I could not give two hoots binman!

[old dee 23,792]

6 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

I note that McGowan didn't actually say June. Rather, that's how Sky News reported it. He actually said first half of the year, so it could open on 1 January 2022. 

In its history Sky News have never let the truth get in the road of a good story.

If they said it was daytime I would go outside and check.

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,811]

34 minutes ago, old dee said:

In its history Sky News have never let the truth get in the road of a good story.

If they said it was daytime I would go outside and check.

To be fair to Sky News, I think most news services would have reported it in the same way. Our media always likes to go with the most extreme version of events. Says as much about the susceptibility and gullibility of the audience as it does about those who determine what we see and hear as "news".

[The Stigga 1,094]

45 minutes ago, binman said:

In all seriousness, one of the unintended, really positive, consequences of having to play the GF at Optus is that for this group of players heading across to play the Eagles and Freo will be a complete joy and a trip they will look forward to, not far.

Imagine the vibe and the buzz of playing on the ground where you had beaten West Coast late in the season, trounced the Cats in a prelim then experienced the ultimate football dream in winning a grand final. Bliss

And the booing?

Well for one, that may well feel juts like a curio to players now - bring it on.

And two we might well have more dees fans in WA now - even if it is freo fans supporting us against the Eagles and vice versa.

Yep ironic isn't it, 

Lost the Semi over there in 91'

Prelim in 94'

Semi in 2006

Prelim in 2018

 

 

[old dee 23,792]

1 hour ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

To be fair to Sky News, I think most news services would have reported it in the same way. Our media always likes to go with the most extreme version of events. Says as much about the susceptibility and gullibility of the audience as it does about those who determine what we see and hear as "news".

On reflection LDC it was Fox news I was thinking off. Apologies to Sky.

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,850]

1 hour ago, The Stigga said:

Yep ironic isn't it, 

Lost the Semi over there in 91'

Prelim in 94'

Semi in 2006

Prelim in 2018

 

 

That one was out at Waverley.

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,850]

2 hours ago, 1964_2 said:

Plus we don’t want to restrict games at our new home away from home - Optus Stadium 

 

I know you're taking the micky but MFC playing games at Optus reeks of another winter long lockdown in Victoria in 2022.

[BDA 22,755]

I’ve been to the barber and eaten out once since restrictions eased. Both times I walked in off the street, no booking, wasn’t asked for my green tick. No obvious capacity management either. Compliance is loose at best from what I’ve experienced so far

[Stiff Arm 4,419]

2 minutes ago, BDA said:

I’ve been to the barber and eaten out once since restrictions eased. Both times I walked in off the street, no booking, wasn’t asked for my green tick. No obvious capacity management either. Compliance is loose at best from what I’ve experienced so far

And yet I've had quite the opposite experience. Green tick checked at a pub and 4 cafes/restaurants, also other retailers nearby. Local barbers have distanced queues down the street. I make a point of complimenting any business I use that is doing the right thing.

[BDA 22,755]

6 minutes ago, Stiff Arm said:

Green tick checked at a pub and 4 cafes/restaurants,

You've been making up for lost time I see

[Demonstone 22,583]

16 minutes ago, BDA said:

Compliance is loose at best from what I’ve experienced so far

That's disappointing.  You'd think people would know better after all we've been through.

Of course, if this causes things to go all pear-shaped again, no doubt the Government will be pilloried.

Do the right thing, people.  Working together is our only chance to control this virus.

[Diamond_Jim 12,592]

1 hour ago, old dee said:

On reflection LDC it was Fox news I was thinking off. Apologies to Sky.

May I recommend  the Loudest Voice with Russell Crowe

A tough watch but a small insight into how Fox News was born

If you believe it all even the Murdoch clan couldn't control the errant child

[Bombay Airconditioning 6,396]

21 hours ago, Demonland said:

You’ll have to postpone your pilgrimage to Optus Stadium to at least June. 

 

Not sure what the problem is….

[Stiff Arm 4,419]

21 hours ago, BDA said:

You've been making up for lost time I see

Ha! Not really, a pub and 4 cafe/restaurant visits in almost a week is tame, I would've thought. Pre covid it would've been 4 pubs! 🍺

[Dante 2,739]

21 hours ago, Demonstone said:

That's disappointing.  You'd think people would know better after all we've been through.

Of course, if this causes things to go all pear-shaped again, no doubt the Government will be pilloried.

Do the right thing, people.  Working together is our only chance to control this virus.

Nearly 2,000 infections today and 25 deaths, how's that working out for you?

I'm double vaxxed and I'm all for others to get the jab but we are opening now because the Government realised that keeping us locked up was useless. 

[Demonstone 22,583]

You've completely missed the point in your rush to bash anything to do with Labor.

What I'm saying is that people will always look for somebody else to blame when their lives are impacted even if it is their own selfish and thoughtless behaviour that caused those problems.  In this instance, that behaviour is the loose compliance by business operators that BDA has observed.

This isn't about politics or which party is in power.

[Dante 2,739]

20 minutes ago, Demonstone said:

You've completely missed the point in your rush to bash anything to do with Labor.

What I'm saying is that people will always look for somebody else to blame when their lives are impacted even if it is their own selfish and thoughtless behaviour that caused those problems.  In this instance, that behaviour is the loose compliance by business operators that BDA has observed.

This isn't about politics or which party is in power.

 

Yes it is, we've handled the pandemic appallingly in Victoria.

We've had, more cases, more deaths, harsher restrictions and longer lock downs than any other State. 

So someone has effed it up, who would you blame, shopkeepers, Restaurateurs, Publicans?

 

[Demonstone 22,583]

I'll say it again and, this time, perhaps move your lips and read slowly in an effort to understand.

I'm talking about the possibility of the recent re-opening being jeopardised by people not observing the COVID compliance practices and the anticipated kneejerk response to blame the Government if such slackness were to cause a setback in our progress towards something approaching normality.

[Dante 2,739]

Sigh! you really are naive.

Andrews doesn't need any excuse to lock us down again, stop trying to shift the blame on the retailers and restauranteurs, if he wants to lock us down again it will haver nothing to do with compliance or non compliance.

I'm not interested in continuing this debate, your lips move far to slowly for my liking.

 

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,811]

2 hours ago, Dante said:

 

Yes it is, we've handled the pandemic appallingly in Victoria.

We've had, more cases, more deaths, harsher restrictions and longer lock downs than any other State. 

So someone has effed it up, who would you blame, shopkeepers, Restaurateurs, Publicans?

 

How do you think Victoria has managed Covid compared with other non-Australian locations? 

[Dante 2,739]

29 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

How do you think Victoria has managed Covid compared with other non-Australian locations? 

Are you serious?

 

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,811]

1 hour ago, Dante said:

Are you serious?

 

Um, yes. I'm interested in knowing what your parameters for success and failure are. For example, if Victoria is the worst State in Australia but still better than 95% of the rest of the world (and I'm not saying that it has been), is that still bad?   

[bing181 9,243]

1 hour ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

How do you think Victoria has managed Covid compared with other non-Australian locations? 

As someone who lives in a non-Australian location, we look on at the management in Australia and Victoria with envy.

Even adjusting for population, European countries have seen death rates 30, 40, 50 times what you've had in Oz - comparative figures which would have been even (much?) higher if Scotty from marketing hadn't fkd up the vaccination program. And don't start me on lockdowns, god we've had them and then some over here as well.

[bing181 9,243]

4 hours ago, Demonstone said:

I'm talking about the possibility of the recent re-opening being jeopardised by people not observing the COVID compliance practices

Yes, you only need to the look at the UK to see where that leads. Everyone I've come across who has visited the UK from Europe recently is shocked by how slack they are, and with predictable consequences: a Covid rate around 10 times what we're seeing in most EU countries.