Guest Posted August 16, 2021 Posted August 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Jaded said: I just want to say that as a Jewish person, I am disgusted at what has gone on in that community. A community that I have purposefully distanced myself from. But I can tell you categorically that the large majority of the Jewish community are furious. The video of the party was leaked and sent to authorities by the community. The $350,000 of collective fines and the massive contract tracing efforts have only been made possible because good law abiding members of that community were not willing to protect these idiots. The outrage is real and I hope that the greater Victorian community can see that those people are a minority of selfish [censored] who use their religious radicalism to justify their [censored] behaviour in all walks of life. I for one am outraged that people did this. I don’t care what category, for lack of a better word, of people. Just people. I agree with you wholeheartedly. A tiny percentage of idiots doesn’t represent the entire group. These ppl are selfish idiots regardless of race, religion, nationality etc.
Jaded No More 68,976 Posted August 16, 2021 Posted August 16, 2021 Just now, WalkingCivilWar said: I for one am outraged that people did this. I don’t care what category, for lack of a better word, of people. Just people. I agree with you wholeheartedly. A tiny percentage of idiots doesn’t represent the entire group. These ppl are selfish idiots regardless of race, religion, nationality etc. I totally agree with this. But I think it's important to note, since it's been widely reported that the people who held the engagement party are Jewish, that they are a minority. Unfortunately the orthodox and ultra orthodox community are mostly insular and selfish and they don't really care about what happens outside of their walls. But they are a minority within the larger Jewish community, and I just want to point that out because I've seen a lot of hate online for the community at large, and that is just simply unfair. Many leaders of the community have stood up and spoken out against these people, which is something we haven't seen from any other cultural or religious group that have also breached restrictions in the past. People are trash. People who use their religion or cultural heritage to justify their trash behaviour are even worse. I've just about had enough of everyone! 5
Guest Posted August 16, 2021 Posted August 16, 2021 OK so the GF will almost definitely be lost to another state. But at the rate we’re going we (fans) won’t be permitted to gather somewhere to watch it on a big screen together. This is largely due to the selfishness of a small minority whose actions impact us all.
Guest Posted August 16, 2021 Posted August 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, Jaded said: I've seen a lot of hate online for the community at large, These haters are as abhorrent and as ignorant as the ppl who breach the rules.
The heart beats true 18,201 Posted August 16, 2021 Posted August 16, 2021 23 minutes ago, Deefiant said: Richmond player a part of that pub walk... And they drink Fireball. Cinnamon flavoured booze. What are you - 12? 🤢 1
faultydet 7,623 Posted August 16, 2021 Posted August 16, 2021 As I keep saying, Airlie Beach has a good sized AFL oval with room for a pie and coffee van. And the new bar is almost finished construction. Plenty of accommodation here. I can even put up some of you dirty Melbournians if needed. #AirlieBeachGranny2021 4 1 2
Guest Posted August 16, 2021 Posted August 16, 2021 On 8/13/2021 at 6:37 PM, daisycutter said: are you taking bookings, wcw? 😀 Thank goodness Uncle Bitters hasn't turned up in a while!!! 😨
Guest Posted August 16, 2021 Posted August 16, 2021 Just now, Colin B. Flaubert said: Thank goodness Uncle Bitters hasn't turned up in a while!!! 😨 I’d be flat out with work for (at least) the next 12 months. And you know who’d be paying for the service, right? Yep, his poor maid.
Demonstone 23,573 Posted August 16, 2021 Posted August 16, 2021 20 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said: A tiny percentage of idiots doesn’t represent the entire group. 4 1
The heart beats true 18,201 Posted August 16, 2021 Posted August 16, 2021 16 minutes ago, Jaded said: I just want to say that as a Jewish person, I am disgusted at what has gone on in that community. A community that I have purposefully distanced myself from. But I can tell you categorically that the large majority of the Jewish community are furious. The video of the party was leaked and sent to authorities by the community. The $350,000 of collective fines and the massive contract tracing efforts have only been made possible because good law abiding members of that community were not willing to protect these idiots. The outrage is real and I hope that the greater Victorian community can see that those people are a minority of selfish [censored] who use their religious radicalism to justify their [censored] behaviour in all walks of life. I was so angry when I saw that video on Twitter last night. I live literally in Ripponlea village. The orthodox community surround us. My partner has MS and is in a high risk category (double jabbed thanks to the wonders of medical science). This is not even the fifth time members of these communities have been caught doing the wrong thing. From what I see on Twitter, backing up what you said here Jaded, the broader Jewish community are FURIOUS about this. They have already begun naming and shaming all the people recognisable in that video (one of them was a DOCTOR!). They won’t stand for it, but nor should they. It was outrageously selfish behaviour. Good luck to the couple involved now. You won’t be able to Google them for 25 years without learning about this. 21st century justice. 5
Lord Nev 13,512 Posted August 16, 2021 Posted August 16, 2021 29 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said: OK so the GF will almost definitely be lost to another state. But at the rate we’re going we (fans) won’t be permitted to gather somewhere to watch it on a big screen together. One thing I think our club does well, especially factoring in our budget and resources, is being innovative with trying to look after the fans. The virtual Bluey, AGM (might not have been the AGM, but we had a virtual club presentation I recall), even little things like the MFC cookies and vouchers the club handed out at Perth airport to Dees fans rocking up to the prelim in 2018. I reckon they'd already be throwing together ideas for ways to connect with the fans or have some kind of experience options that will suit the restrictions at the time. Could be something like a watch party even. And if not, MFC here's your chance to start planning something of the sort so that us fans can at least 'virtually' connect with each other during the finals games. *cough* GIbbo *cough* 2
old dee 24,083 Posted August 16, 2021 Posted August 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, Lord Nev said: One thing I think our club does well, especially factoring in our budget and resources, is being innovative with trying to look after the fans. The virtual Bluey, AGM (might not have been the AGM, but we had a virtual club presentation I recall), even little things like the MFC cookies and vouchers the club handed out at Perth airport to Dees fans rocking up to the prelim in 2018. I reckon they'd already be throwing together ideas for ways to connect with the fans or have some kind of experience options that will suit the restrictions at the time. Could be something like a watch party even. And if not, MFC here's your chance to start planning something of the sort so that us fans can at least 'virtually' connect with each other during the finals games. *cough* GIbbo *cough* Sadly I think we are just going to have to suck it up. Celebrating in our lounge rooms is probably as good as it gets in 2021. 3
La Dee-vina Comedia 17,137 Posted August 16, 2021 Posted August 16, 2021 1 minute ago, old dee said: Sadly I think we are just going to have to suck it up. Celebrating in our lounge rooms is probably as good as it gets in 2021. If asked whether I'd take this as the only option to see a Premiership any time in the last 50+ years, of course I'd say "yes". Who wouldn't? So, let's hope we do get to celebrate! 3
Lord Nev 13,512 Posted August 16, 2021 Posted August 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, old dee said: Sadly I think we are just going to have to suck it up. Celebrating in our lounge rooms is probably as good as it gets in 2021. Possibly, but Gibbo is currently our media guy, photographer, runner and probably more, so wouldn't be surprised if he's on top of this stuff and has something in the works. 1
Diamond_Jim 12,773 Posted August 16, 2021 Posted August 16, 2021 1 hour ago, WalkingCivilWar said: Yeah, considering they don’t seem fussed by what type of vaccine they take. (There’s no anti-AZ sentiment there.) I’m guessing this is why they have so much Pfizer that’s close to use-by date. Agree WCW I was surprised as well. Until around mid July, Poland was tracking well numbers wise and then the dialy numbers fell off a cliff. Just goes to show how hard it is getting that last 30% of the population to have the jab 1
old dee 24,083 Posted August 16, 2021 Posted August 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said: If asked whether I'd take this as the only option to see a Premiership any time in the last 50+ years, of course I'd say "yes". Who wouldn't? So, let's hope we do get to celebrate! No argument from me LDC.
old dee 24,083 Posted August 16, 2021 Posted August 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, Lord Nev said: Possibly, but Gibbo is currently our media guy, photographer, runner and probably more, so wouldn't be surprised if he's on top of this stuff and has something in the works. Without physical contact everything just feels like putting band aids on a 300mm gash.
Jaded No More 68,976 Posted August 16, 2021 Posted August 16, 2021 17 minutes ago, Lord Nev said: One thing I think our club does well, especially factoring in our budget and resources, is being innovative with trying to look after the fans. The virtual Bluey, AGM (might not have been the AGM, but we had a virtual club presentation I recall), even little things like the MFC cookies and vouchers the club handed out at Perth airport to Dees fans rocking up to the prelim in 2018. I reckon they'd already be throwing together ideas for ways to connect with the fans or have some kind of experience options that will suit the restrictions at the time. Could be something like a watch party even. And if not, MFC here's your chance to start planning something of the sort so that us fans can at least 'virtually' connect with each other during the finals games. *cough* GIbbo *cough* I wonder how hard it would be to connect the big screens at the MCG to a zoom for fans to be able to attend and support from home so at least the players can have real time cheering from fans. If say members can log onto a host service and have it on while they watch the game from home, and cheer on the players in real time? Maybe the cheer squads can also be allowed to put up flags and banners around the ground for both sides? 1
Lord Nev 13,512 Posted August 16, 2021 Posted August 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, old dee said: Without physical contact everything just feels like putting band aids on a 300mm gash. Yeah it sucks mate. We'll all just possibly have to save up the hugs and high fives for the first time the pubs open up 100%. Perhaps the club could organize a replay event (should we even get to the GF) at the Victoria Sporting Globe venues? 1 1
Guest Posted August 16, 2021 Posted August 16, 2021 7 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said: Agree WCW I was surprised as well. Until around mid July, Poland was tracking well numbers wise and then the dialy numbers fell off a cliff. Just goes to show how hard it is getting that last 30% of the population to have the jab Apparently the older Poles in general are rather reluctant to get vaxxed, especially those in the many little villages. In Warsaw the rates are pretty good. The younger generations are keen to be vaccinated.
old dee 24,083 Posted August 16, 2021 Posted August 16, 2021 11 minutes ago, Lord Nev said: Yeah it sucks mate. We'll all just possibly have to save up the hugs and high fives for the first time the pubs open up 100%. Perhaps the club could organize a replay event (should we even get to the GF) at the Victoria Sporting Globe venues? G would work for me. 1
Bates Mate 4,520 Posted August 16, 2021 Posted August 16, 2021 1 hour ago, WalkingCivilWar said: OK so the GF will almost definitely be lost to another state. But at the rate we’re going we (fans) won’t be permitted to gather somewhere to watch it on a big screen together. This is largely due to the selfishness of a small minority whose actions impact us all. Looks like WA is firming as the place. I'm not against it is a good venue and will be nuetral for both teams (pending a freo/wce miracle) Only Ol mate Mcgowan could stop it happening with a quote from todays paper . Does he not know the timeline of effectiveness for the vaccine? and the difference between 1 and 2 shots. Also clubs would be reluctant to get the players jabbed this close to games they do have side effects that can knock you about for a few days. McGowan said it would also be a “wise” call for the AFL to have all players vaccinated ahead of any matches being held in Perth.
TRIGON 4,821 Posted August 16, 2021 Posted August 16, 2021 40 minutes ago, Bates Mate said: Looks like WA is firming as the place. I'm not against it is a good venue and will be nuetral for both teams (pending a freo/wce miracle) Only Ol mate Mcgowan could stop it happening with a quote from todays paper . Does he not know the timeline of effectiveness for the vaccine? and the difference between 1 and 2 shots. Also clubs would be reluctant to get the players jabbed this close to games they do have side effects that can knock you about for a few days. McGowan said it would also be a “wise” call for the AFL to have all players vaccinated ahead of any matches being held in Perth. I'm not sure about Perth, the weather's a bit dodgy.
Bring-Back-Powell 15,549 Posted August 16, 2021 Posted August 16, 2021 What happens to the grand final if COVID hits Perth during grand final week and McGowan orders the game to be played with no fans. It's happened twice this year. What's the continency plan then? 2
Diamond_Jim 12,773 Posted August 16, 2021 Posted August 16, 2021 7 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said: What happens to the grand final if COVID hits Perth during grand final week and McGowan orders the game to be played with no fans. It's happened twice this year. What's the continency plan then? WA government still pays the guaranteed fee unless AFL have bad lawyers
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