MFC Trade Summary

[Adam The God 30,603]

12 minutes ago, Win4theAges said:

Agree with you AF to a certain degree, i just feel we need a more flexible F50. I think we are banking on Spargo, Hunt and Kosi to go to another level in 2021.

I don’t want us to be a copycat club, its a sign of weakness and will not defeat a Richmond side in september.

I happy with our conducted business in trade week.

Happy days.

Me too, but perhaps that'll come more from the strategy side of things, rather than personnel.

[Wiseblood 24,637]

12 minutes ago, joeboy said:

Just an interesting little aside from TMac’s manager Alex McDonald tonight, who said Tom had already lost 4kg in an attempt to regain his mobility and power running ability 

If Tom could potentially get himself right for 2021, then he could almost be our best acquisition of the off season.

[Adam The God 30,603]

1 hour ago, Mickey said:

He did, but he also said, now that they know list sizes, they'll have further discussions.

Could be a rookie for depth. Might also find a spot somewhere else as a DFA

Yep, if I was the MFC, I'd be re-signing Oscar. A 1-2 year deal on small money. He becomes depth (hopefully).

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,766]

2 minutes ago, A F said:

Me too, but perhaps that'll come more from the strategy side of things, rather than personnel.

A part of me feels that if we ended up moving Tmac on another player would have come through the door i.e Phillips etc.

I'm glad that Tmac has stayed at the club and can recapture his best footy and have a sound body and mind. Another big body to create pressure for spots Fwd/Back thats what we need this could be a real blessing for us going forward.

Still have the pre season draft to snare a smokey from somewhere you never know.

[manny100 1,621]

Our game plan will likely change a bit. Brown will take pressure off Weid and Jackson. He probably will not need to be a big goal kicker to be effective. He may allow Jackson to be a surprise package next year for us. Very tough to cover 3 good talls. I expect our small forwards will be busy crumbing the work of our talls .

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,766]

4 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

If Tom could potentially get himself right for 2021, then he could almost be our best acquisition of the off season.

Anything we get from Tmac going forward is an absolute bonus, nothing motivates better than people writing you off, im backing Tmac in.

Like a new signing for us if he produces in 2021.

Edited November 12, 2020 by Win4theAges

[Adam The God 30,603]

15 minutes ago, Win4theAges said:

A part of me feels that if we ended up moving Tmac on another player would have come through the door i.e Phillips etc.

I'm glad that Tmac has stayed at the club and can recapture his best footy and have a sound body and mind. Another big body to create pressure for spots Fwd/Back thats what we need this could be a real blessing for us going forward.

Still have the pre season draft to snare a smokey from somewhere you never know.

I reckon you're spot on here.

I'm worried about Tom fitting in anywhere frankly, but let's see.

14 minutes ago, manny100 said:

Our game plan will likely change a bit. Brown will take pressure off Weid and Jackson. He probably will not need to be a big goal kicker to be effective. He may allow Jackson to be a surprise package next year for us. Very tough to cover 3 good talls. I expect our small forwards will be busy crumbing the work of our talls .

Problem with this idea is that we don't have any natural crumbers except for Kozzie and at a pinch, Spargo.

[rpfc 28,906]

Feel so sorry for the bulldogs who have to deal with the fit issues of having so many good midfielders...

They really should have traded away good midfielders.

 

Ya know... coz... the fit and all...

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,766]

2 minutes ago, A F said:

I reckon you're spot on here.

I'm worried about Tom fitting in anywhere frankly, but let's see.

Problem with this idea is that we don't have any natural crumbers except for Kozzie and at a pinch, Spargo.

Don't forget we missed out on Issac Smith aswell. Time will tell if that was a bullet dodged or a sliding doors moment.

[Adam The God 30,603]

14 minutes ago, rpfc said:

Feel so sorry for the bulldogs who have to deal with the fit issues of having so many good midfielders...

They really should have traded away good midfielders.

 

Ya know... coz... the fit and all...

That's an A+ grade midfield that has speed, ball winning and tackling. It's got everything really.

Luke will need that side to finish top 6 and win a final next year, minimum.

[The heart beats true 18,183]

I think we did ok. I think the club did the best with what it could get given the hand they had. However for mine that doesn’t make up for the hole on the wing, and the other one in the forward pocket. I would have liked one of those plugged with a ready made player given our age profile and need to get a move on. I assume we are looking to the draft to solve those problems, but it doesn’t help 2021 - which is an interesting predicament given the open conversations had about the coaching staff’s KPI’s for next year.

[Turner 1,516]

eyes firmly on tippa, lipinski in a full dogs midfield and stack as potential early left field targets for next season. obviously jelly/whitfield and merrett are the big fish on our early radar

[Adam The God 30,603]

21 minutes ago, The heart beats true said:

I think we did ok. I think the club did the best with what it could get given the hand they had. However for mine that doesn’t make up for the hole on the wing, and the other one in the forward pocket. I would have liked one of those plugged with a ready made player given our age profile and need to get a move on. I assume we are looking to the draft to solve those problems, but it doesn’t help 2021 - which is an interesting predicament given the open conversations had about the coaching staff’s KPI’s for next year.

Viney has to play pressure forward. @Pollyanna and I have said it million times, but he and probably Harmes need to play forward. Sure, they'll get some midfield rotation too, but that could be the answer to the pressure forward problem.

Fritsch - Weideman - Pickett

Viney/Harmes - Brown - Jackson/Petracca

It's not a million miles from the West Coast forwardline in 2018.

I think we can find the balance here. I may have just overreacted before out of concern, thinking we needed more smalls, but if we keep everyone fit, I reckon we can structure that forward to add enough tackle pressure, but importantly be dangerousness enough to kick a winning score.

Edited November 12, 2020 by A F

[Wiseblood 24,637]

4 minutes ago, A F said:

Viney has to play pressure forward.

You love this to death, but the chances of it happening or slim to none.

[Adam The God 30,603]

13 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

You love this to death, but the chances of it happening or slim to none.

Haha, indeed. I hope if I write it enough, it'll filter up to Goodwin. ;)

Given we haven't really been seeking small forwards this off season (with the exception of having a chat with Hind) and we've traded out Hannan, and been open to letting ANB go as well, it seems like we think we have the players on our list to apply enough pressure. Or that we're changing our forward system altogether.

Edited November 12, 2020 by A F

[Caligula's cohort 1,014]

Probably Mahoney's best performance over trade period to date. We are looking very well placed with 2 late first rounders, a decent second rounder and pick 50 which I believe we will try to consolidate into a better pick in coming days. Our last pick will be used to upgrade Lockhart to the senior list. Any talk of him moving on at the end of this year or next is just rubbish. Mahoney has shown his worth to the board with this masterstroke. 

[MadAsHell 4,217]

2 hours ago, A F said:

I'm worried about our other wing and our lack of small forwards. I hope we can sort this during the draft.

In theory we should be able to cover the small forward issue with Spargo and Bedford as well as Chandler there.

Fair concern about the wing though. I share them!

[Adam The God 30,603]

11 minutes ago, MadAsHell said:

In theory we should be able to cover the small forward issue with Spargo and Bedford as well as Chandler there.

Fair concern about the wing though. I share them!

I wouldn't have Spargo, Bedford or Chandler in my best 22. I'm happy Spargo has a new contract though.

[Forest Demon 4,681]

Still not 100% sure on trading so heavily into this draft at the expense of next year’s first rounder. We can still trade picks, so I wouldn’t be totally surprised to see us make more moves, but the club does seem pretty set on going for it in the here and now.

[Forest Demon 4,681]

Phillips was the only name floated that may have suited us, but even then I’m not totally sold on him.

If we take 18 and 19 to the draft I want to see 2 players with some run in them.

[Adam The God 30,603]

11 minutes ago, Forest Demon said:

Still not 100% sure on trading so heavily into this draft at the expense of next year’s first rounder. We can still trade picks, so I wouldn’t be totally surprised to see us make more moves, but the club does seem pretty set on going for it in the here and now.

We do this most years now though. We'll worry about trading back into the first round next year if we need to. FA next year will also be an option. 

[Ethan Tremblay 31,243]

What did we end up getting for Oliver? 

[Paulo 285]

1 hour ago, Win4theAges said:

Anything we get from Tmac going forward is an absolute bonus, nothing motivates better than people writing you off, im backing Tmac in.

Like a new signing for us if he produces in 2021.

I like your thinking, Tommy will be working his [censored] off to get back to where he was ( that is a guarantee) he won't leave anything in the tank, I will be backing him in.

Use him as a swingman depending on match ups, he would match up well against certain types of opponents,  forwards and defenders

I would like him to really get some aggression into his game and hit packs hard up forward and take big goal saving marks down back.

If he is playing as a defender he needs to use quick first option handballs and then protect the ball carrier 

He will surprise a few if fit

 

[Brownie 6,066]

1 hour ago, joeboy said:

Just an interesting little aside from TMac’s manager Alex McDonald tonight, who said Tom had already lost 4kg in an attempt to regain his mobility and power running ability 

It's mind boggling that he bulked up in the first place. Really keen to see how he goes in the pre-season time trials.

Hope he comes back hard next year.

[The heart beats true 18,183]

1 hour ago, Wiseblood said:

If Tom could potentially get himself right for 2021, then he could almost be our best acquisition of the off season.

There’s way too much sunshine and lollipops going on around here about TMac. 

He’s being paid like a guy who should be in our top 5 players, and he’s currently not in the best 22. That money is poorly spent. Purely from a business perspective he should be gone, and the fact that he isn’t tells you the rest of the industry agrees he’s massively over valued.