Just now, Redleg said:

Yes!

Incredible if it happens 

that’s a long memory to keep paying

 

4 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Incredible if it happens 

that’s a long memory to keep paying

 

And if we said to North, we will get you Stephensen for Brown and then force Pies to take a lower 2nd round pick, as they just have to salary dump,  it gets better.

23 minutes ago, Redleg said:

And if we said to North, we will get you Stephensen for Brown and then force Pies to take a lower 2nd round pick, as they just have to salary dump,  it gets better.

Quite possible 

the Filth are haemorrhaging badly. Obviously back ended far to many players. 

2 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Quite possible 

the Filth are haemorrhaging badly. Obviously back ended far to many players. 

The big question is who was doing the Maths?

12 minutes ago, old dee said:

The big question is who was doing the Maths?

the same one who was doing the praying

14 minutes ago, old dee said:

The big question is who was doing the Maths?

There was no maths. It was all player greed

No Flags. 

2 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

the same one who was doing the praying

Should have prayed harder or they prayed to the wrong god.

47 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Beams didn’t write the ridiculous contract. 
Treloar signed what was put in front of him

 

It wouldn't surprise me if all big Collingwood contract have to be approved by Ed.

3 minutes ago, Pollyanna said:

It wouldn't surprise me if all big Collingwood contract have to be approved by Ed.

It depends on what he was being told. It would not be the first time that a large company mislead the Chief through incompetence. I remember a while back a MFC chief had a drawer full of invoices that were not declared.

1 hour ago, daisycutter said:

so is it a waste of time checking in here to see progress?

or will social media drop any useful trade info before official release time?

refresh this page every 30 seconds to be on the safe side  ?

10 minutes ago, Pollyanna said:

It wouldn't surprise me if all big Collingwood contract have to be approved by Ed.

Quite possible, but basic maths has been neglected. There is no excuse for this

The Filth have lied to their own players big time

8 minutes ago, old dee said:

It depends on what he was being told. It would not be the first time that a large company mislead the Chief through incompetence. I remember a while back a MFC chief had a drawer full of invoices that were not declared.

That's because he was still paying his $600.000 desk off?

21 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

There was no maths. It was all player greed

No Flags. 

I think this is unfair for two reasons. Firstly, the final decision whether to pay the amount sought is the club's, not the player's. Secondly, players do not necessarily know what their teammates are being paid, so wouldn't know where they fit in the pecking* order at the club and therefore whether they are getting what is fair and reasonable or not.

 

(I know we're talking about Magpies, but this was an unintended pun.)

8 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

I think this is unfair for two reasons. Firstly, the final decision whether to pay the amount sought is the club's, not the player's. Secondly, players do not necessarily know what their teammates are being paid, so wouldn't know where they fit in the pecking* order at the club and therefore whether they are getting what is fair and reasonable or not.

 

(I know we're talking about Magpies, but this was an unintended pun.)

You Miss understand 

this was Collingwood Player Greed, not the individual players

The Filth wanted the great list and worry about paying them money later. 
They still have Grundy to worry about

This is so “how not to run a business”

no wonder McGuire has quit Radio ? 

May they implode for many more days yet

Franklin's contract moved the goalposts by a massive margin.What looked like a stupid play was quickly lauded as a masterstroke due to increases in the salary cap(media deals).The AFL is a very small bubble and the mantra turned into its own echo chamber. Now that bubble has burst big time.

Will clubs learn from it. Probably not as every bad decision can be justified at the time it is made. It's only hindsight that makes them look poor.

MFC  has made a few of its own.

19 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Franklin's contract moved the goalposts by a massive margin.What looked like a stupid play was quickly lauded as a masterstroke due to increases in the salary cap(media deals).The AFL is a very small bubble and the mantra turned into its own echo chamber. Now that bubble has burst big time.

Will clubs learn from it. Probably not as every bad decision can be justified at the time it is made. It's only hindsight that makes them look poor.

MFC  has made a few of its own.

If they have any brains they will move away from x years at $Y dollars, and start talking salary cap percentages. Maybe not for the whole contract, but for the future years which exist say 2-3 years away or after the next EBA.

For the bigger contracts anyway.

 

1 minute ago, deanox said:

If they have any brains they will move away from x years at $Y dollars, and start talking salary cap percentages. Maybe not for the whole contract, but for the future years which exist say 2-3 years away or after the next EBA.

For the bigger contracts anyway.

 

The union will never agree to that one Deanox. They already think their share of Revenue  is too low.

4 hours ago, old dee said:

The big question is who was doing the Maths?

 

4 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Will the Filth pay $300,000 a year for 5 years to get rid of Treloar?

What a total [censored] up. Edward must be going bezerk right now

Which heads will roll?

This from the fox website should answer some questions.

Dual premiership Kangaroo David King said it was unfathomable how quickly the Pies have run into their TPP issue.  I think there’ll be a Royal Commission into how they go into this situation at Collingwood,” King told Trading Day.“Ned Guy, he’s acting like the Candy Man handing out contracts down there. It’s unbelievable what some of these guys are on.

Josh Mahoney coming up on Trade Radio...

3 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

You Miss understand 

this was Collingwood Player Greed, not the individual players

The Filth wanted the great list and worry about paying them money later. 
They still have Grundy to worry about

This is so “how not to run a business”

no wonder McGuire has quit Radio ? 

May they implode for many more days yet

I'm not sure what you mean here. Are you saying that the players as a group forced the club to pay "overs"? 

3 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

I'm not sure what you mean here. Are you saying that the players as a group forced the club to pay "overs"? 

As i read it players were asking for overs and the pies kept caving in.

Mahoney indicating having 2 picks in the 20-30 range could see us picking up a couple of players that will slide due to the lack of exposed (current) form in the junior ranks.

Then in the next breath hasn't ruled out making more pick swaps!

20 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

I'm not sure what you mean here. Are you saying that the players as a group forced the club to pay "overs"? 

No. I am saying Collingwood wanted a list of A Grade Players with no regard as to how they would be paid. 
The Players don’t assemble the List

The Club does all that

11 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

No. I am saying Collingwood wanted a list of A Grade Players with no regard as to how they would be paid. 
The Players don’t assemble the List

The Club does all that

Thanks for clarifying. I think we agree, don't we, that the problem is the club's making, not the players'?

8 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Thanks for clarifying. I think we agree, don't we, that the problem is the club's making, not the players'?

WOW that took some effort LDC