Jump to content

Bernie goes whack

Lord Nev
in Melbourne Demons

Featured Replies

 

I am in the camp that says Oliver and Viney can't play in the same midfield

And that Oliver should move fwd. Viney is doing OK and has a ferocious attack on the ball but Oliver we are getting nowhere near the value out of him that we should be. His disposal is rubbish and he puts other players under way too much pressure 

We need more composure in the middle. Trac has it now and maybe a Salem or brayshaw would be better in the short term.

 

  • Quote
    • Like 2
     
    1 hour ago, A F said:

    I'm still convinced the game style that we want to play, even when implemented correctly is unsustainable over 22 games.

    Me too A F, a few words from Bernie and all of a sudden it is the players fault. While they have some of the blame to take IMO they are trying to implement the impossible. Not only over a season but over the length of a game.

  • Quote
    • Like 3
    1 hour ago, praha said:

    A head coach's KPIs are ultimately weighted more to team performance holistically so to say "it's a player problem not a coach problem" is in and of itself implicating the coach. 

    That's where the buck stops.

  • Quote

    9 minutes ago, old dee said:

    Me too A F, a few words from Bernie and all of a sudden it is the players fault. While they have some of the blame to take IMO they are trying to implement the impossible. Not only over a season but over the length of a game.

    If it's implementable sustainably, show us for the rest of the year, please.

  • Quote
    • Like 1
    1 hour ago, McQueen said:

    Goodwin's been in the ear of a lot of 'ex-players' recently if that's the case.

    Maybe Goodwin is starting to panic - calling in favours from afar. 

  • Quote
    • Like 1

    Look lets be honest, Bernie is dumb as dog [censored].

    Claims that the players would have been annoyed with the Bartlett comments and now says that maybe its the players?

    Which one is it Bernie? Contradict yourself much..

     

  • Quote
    • Like 2
     
    3 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

    Its not only the midfield.  TMac and Melksham seem more concerned on kicking the goals themselves than team play, even tho they are low probability shots.

    At the risk of releasing a great hue and cry against me:  our ex-captains have been culprits for their whole careers.  And that rubs off on the new arrivals setting off a new cycle of selfish play. 

    The coach needs to find a circuit breaker once and for all.

    As an aside it sounds a bit like Bernie has gone in to bat for his mate.

    We saw some flashes of "unselfish" team first play in 2017 & 2018 LH.

    However, the tyre received a puncture vs WC in the prelim and has never been properly attended to since imv. 

    Too many seem happy to just get to jog out on to the field in most matches.

    Deeplorable with a few 'individual' exceptions since that match and an occasional decent win against the lessor lights that the players appear to hang their hat on.  Then all to easily drift back to selfish mediocrity shortly thereafter against the rated clubs.

  • Quote
    • Like 2

    All this talk of selfish and not playing for each other

    My view is that some/most players don't trust their teammates to execute - and so don't give them the ball, try to take on the tackler or do it all themselves until they get into trouble and cough it up or give the ball to a teammate in an even worse predicament who then turns it over.

    Sure, they all might be mates, however we're never going to win a flag without the team having inherent trust in the abilities of all 22 on the field.

    Even Barassi has said the Dees of the 50's/60's weren't a team of superstars.

  • Quote

    31 minutes ago, In Harmes Way said:

    All this talk of selfish and not playing for each other

    My view is that some/most players don't trust their teammates to execute - and so don't give them the ball, try to take on the tackler or do it all themselves until they get into trouble and cough it up or give the ball to a teammate in an even worse predicament who then turns it over.

    Sure, they all might be mates, however we're never going to win a flag without the team having inherent trust in the abilities of all 22 on the field.

    Even Barassi has said the Dees of the 50's/60's weren't a team of superstars.

    Not trusting your teammates or believing you are better at executing than they are is probably the same thing - it could be seen as selfish.

    We would be well served sharing the ball around - albeit in a more organised fashion. We don’t have guys running to support, we don’t have guys running to create space through false leads or shepherds. Forward or sideways handballs to flat footed players facing the wrong way is absolutely killing us (Oliver)


    It’s junior football stuff to get through rough patches by bringing each other into the game. Get a bit of enthusiasm amongst the group if you are rewarded for effort 

    Edited by BW511

  • Quote
    3 hours ago, rjay said:

    Here's a conspiracy theory, maybe his mate 'Goody' has asked him to stir the pot...

    Yeah ... nah.

    That would be gutless, dishonest and frankly really bad leadership.

    Say what you will about Goodies coaching prowess, but I really don't think that kind of behavior is in his DNA.

  • Quote
    • Like 2

    Join the conversation

    You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

    Guest
    Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
    Reply to this topic...
    Go to topic listing

    Featured Content

    • NON-MFC: Round 15

      As the Demons head into their Bye Round, it's time to turn our attention to the other matches being played. Which teams are you tipping this week? And which results would be most favourable for the Demons if we can manage to turn our season around? Follow all the non-Melbourne games here and join the conversation as the ladder continues to take shape.

      • 3 replies
      Demonland

    • REPORT: Port Adelaide

      Of course, it’s not the backline, you might argue and you would probably be right. It’s the boot studder (do they still have them?), the midfield, the recruiting staff, the forward line, the kicking coach, the Board, the interchange bench, the supporters, the folk at Casey, the head coach and the club psychologist  It’s all of them and all of us for having expectations that were sufficiently high to have believed three weeks ago that a restoration of the Melbourne team to a position where we might still be in contention for a finals berth when the time for the midseason bye arrived. Now let’s look at what happened over the period of time since Melbourne overwhelmed the Sydney Swans at the MCG in late May when it kicked 8.2 to 5.3 in the final quarter (and that was after scoring 3.8 to two straight goals in the second term). 

      • 2 replies
      Demonland

    • CASEY: Essendon

      Casey’s unbeaten run was extended for at least another fortnight after the Demons overran a persistent Essendon line up by 29 points at ETU Stadium in Port Melbourne last night. After conceding the first goal of the evening, Casey went on a scoring spree from about ten minutes in, with five unanswered majors with its fleet of midsized runners headed by the much improved Paddy Cross who kicked two in quick succession and livewire Ricky Mentha who also kicked an early goal. Leading the charge was recruit of the year, Riley Bonner while Bailey Laurie continued his impressive vein of form. With Tom Campbell missing from the lineup, Will Verrall stepped up to the plate demonstrating his improvement under the veteran ruckman’s tutelage. The Demons were looking comfortable for much of the second quarter and held a 25-point lead until the Bombers struck back with two goals in the shadows of half time. On the other side of the main break their revival continued with first three goals of the half. Harry Sharp, who had been quiet scrambled in the Demons’ first score of the third term to bring the margin back to a single point at the 17 minute mark and the game became an arm-wrestle for the remainder of the quarter and into the final moments of the last.

      • 0 replies
      Demonland

    • PREGAME: Gold Coast

      The Demons have the Bye next week but then are on the road once again when they come up against the Gold Coast Suns on the Gold Coast in what could be a last ditch effort to salvage their season. Who comes in and who comes out?

        • Haha
        • Like
      • 108 replies
      Demonland

    • PODCAST: Port Adelaide

      The Demonland Podcast will air LIVE on Monday, 16th June @ 8:00pm. Join Binman, George & I as we dissect the Dees disappointing loss to the Power.
      Your questions and comments are a huge part of our podcast so please post anything you want to ask or say below and we'll give you a shout out on the show.
      Listen LIVE: https://demonland.com/

        • Thanks
      • 32 replies
      Demonland

    • POSTGAME: Port Adelaide

      The Demons simply did not take their opportunities when they presented themselves and ultimately when down by 25 points effectively ending their finals chances. Goal kicking practice during the Bye?

        • Thanks
        • Like
      • 252 replies
      Demonland
    View All