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  On 16/03/2020 at 01:12, AshleyH30 said:

I Thought Gawny looked a bit under the weather in his Q&A last night...

Well Max would getting symptoms already and Pendles would have his results.

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      On 16/03/2020 at 01:37, loges said:

    Well Max would getting symptoms already and Pendles would have his results.

    What Q and A ?

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      On 16/03/2020 at 01:14, Demonland said:

    I must admit this thought has crossed my mind.

    No one will ever accept that premiership as a real premiership. It will always be seen as a glorified preseason comp win.

    It will forever be known as the Asterix Premiership.

    or.....the trc premiership

    ......tr crisis.....

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    No Idea, I was commenting on the fact that the photo was taken 6 days ago.

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      On 16/03/2020 at 01:02, DubDee said:

    Zero chance of the AFL season starting this week which is such a pity!

    everything is cancelled apart from work and parenting.  this year sucks!!

    That is only opinion like 150,000 odd others but at the glass no water end!

    It may well be but Round  1 might be ok although if Pendlebury comes down with it Eddie will sacrifice heaven and earth plus more to endure no footy gies ahead!

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      On 15/03/2020 at 23:02, Demonland said:

    As soon as a player from Team A has to be quarantined because a family member or someone they have had contact with comes down with COVID-19 then the entire Team A will need to be quarantined and then you are one team down.

    Add to that the situation where said player from Team A just played Team B then Team B needs to be quarantined.

    It's only a matter of time before this scenario happens and if it happens to Team C and Team J as well then the season is curtains anyway.

    IMHO the season will be canned today.

    Don't think a whole season will be written off yet but if this happens a review date will be mentioned for reconsideration depending upon state if the Beira, country and health most importantly at the time.

    Similsr to rain delays At  cricket and wicket inspections.

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    Many younger or mid-tier players desperate for the season to go ahead as they are on match payments, incentives plus base. Have mortgages, school fees. Could make $200K difference. On top or pay cuts to come. AFLPA delegates hookup at 1pm. The details ?

    AFL to reveal coronavirus plan to clubs as AFLPA plans phone hook-up with more than 1000 AFL and AFLW players

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    Not surprised by this at all. Players making the big bucks will be able to afford a stop of play, but for a few, they live on game day/performance pay and will struggle to survive.

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    I think the original plans were to try and squeeze 2-3 games in before everything hit hard, suspending the season. That way they had the option of pushing back a few weeks (removing the byes and pushing back the GF could gain a month) or even resuming the season with a new fixture (ie reduced rounds,- everyone plays everyone once - or compressed - 6 day breaks and mid week games).

    But if they bail now it could be disastrous. 

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    I thought I read somewhere last week that the AFL are prepared to dip into an emergency fund to prop up clubs and pay players where required?

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    Haven't heard anything from the broadcast rights holders. Not sure they would thrill to compressed seasons etc and would certainly have their hand out for a discount as would sponsors etc etc.

    Personally I'd move the whole league to say Alice Springs and play in a virtual bubble for the next six weeks. There's a nice big and very secure defence facility just outside Alice that would welcome them all.

    Thought the way they ditched the AFL "to cut costs" (Eddie's words) was a little cruel.

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      On 16/03/2020 at 01:56, Demonland said:

    Many younger or mid-tier players desperate for the season to go ahead as they are on match payments, incentives plus base. Have mortgages, school fees. Could make $200K difference. On top or pay cuts to come. AFLPA delegates hookup at 1pm. The details ?

    AFL to reveal coronavirus plan to clubs as AFLPA plans phone hook-up with more than 1000 AFL and AFLW players

    The minimum wage is 110k this year.

    If you're 19-21 I think you can survive pretty well on 110k a year.

    If you're 22-24 that means apart from a limited number of mature age draftees you've already had 2 years of around 100k and another 2 years of more (probably 150+ pa) under your belt. If you're manager and financial adviser have overextended your debt buying too much property based on match payments then get better advice.

    Some AFL players have kids pretty early, but are they really forking out big bucks for private primary school fees? If so, that means they've had at least 5 years of AFL wages. The guys who have school aged kids on the Melbourne list are Nath Jones, Jetta and who else? They might have match payments and performance bonuses in their contracts given their age but they have been on a list for over a decade.

    I'm sorry but the only players who I can imagine are truly 'desperate' for the match payments are those who have made poor financial decisions and in particular those who have gambling problems.

     

     

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      On 16/03/2020 at 03:44, DeeSpencer said:

    The minimum wage is 110k this year.

    If you're 19-21 I think you can survive pretty well on 110k a year.

    If you're 22-24 that means apart from a limited number of mature age draftees you've already had 2 years of around 100k and another 2 years of more (probably 150+ pa) under your belt. If you're manager and financial adviser have overextended your debt buying too much property based on match payments then get better advice.

    Some AFL players have kids pretty early, but are they really forking out big bucks for private primary school fees? If so, that means they've had at least 5 years of AFL wages. The guys who have school aged kids on the Melbourne list are Nath Jones, Jetta and who else? They might have match payments and performance bonuses in their contracts given their age but they have been on a list for over a decade.

    I'm sorry but the only players who I can imagine are truly 'desperate' for the match payments are those who have made poor financial decisions and in particular those who have gambling problems.

     

     

    While I feel for the players, spare a thought to those of us running small businesses with employees and small children to look after. The stress is real. 

    A 20 year old making $100k a season is not going to go hungry. 

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      On 16/03/2020 at 03:02, Diamond_Jim said:

    Personally I'd move the whole league to say Alice Springs and play in a virtual bubble for the next six weeks. There's a nice big and very secure defence facility just outside Alice that would welcome them all.

     

    That is not such crazy idea actually. Play one game a day on the beautiful surface of Traeger park. And train and live in a sealed (or as close to it as possible) environment. If not an army base take over a hotel (who will be desperate for business). before going in all staff, players etc tested and anyone positive can't come.  Players bused to the ground and back. No families or partners

    Could probably have two such facilities, perhaps one n country Victoria or South Australia 

    Games go on. TV rights are paid. Players get paid (which they won't if there are no games). Money into Alice Springs (or wherever)

     

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    I think the VFL should consider a shortened season starting in September and finishing in December/January. There are plenty who are just football Tradjics (dont follow other sports)  who would definitely support this. Especially those who have nothing going on in September. It would also allow for a late draft to occur. It would also allow possibly a team from both Darwin and Tassie.

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      On 16/03/2020 at 02:08, Luther said:

    I thought I read somewhere last week that the AFL are prepared to dip into an emergency fund to prop up clubs and pay players where required?

    Does the emergency fund still exist if they have to pay back the broadcasters for not showing games?

    (And do they have to pay them back? Surely if they're not providing the product as agreed...)

    If senior players don't want to play then get the ringers in. Jay Lockhart for the Brownlow.

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      On 16/03/2020 at 04:23, binman said:

    That is not such crazy idea actually. Play one game a day on the beautiful surface of Traeger park. And train and live in a sealed (or as close to it as possible) environment. If not an army base take over a hotel (who will be desperate for business). before going in all staff, players etc tested and anyone positive can't come.  Players bused to the ground and back. No families or partners

    Could probably have two such facilities, perhaps one n country Victoria or South Australia 

    Games go on. TV rights are paid. Players get paid (which they won't if there are no games). Money into Alice Springs (or wherever)

     

    While I like the idea, it does assume that players have no life outside footy.  Would they all want to be away for 6 months from their small babies and toddlers and partners.  (hmm, don't answer that)

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