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AFLW: Rd 6 vs Carlton



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A lot of similarities to the St Kilda game in that loss. The more dominate side in the first half without putting them away before being completely over run in the second half. Cunningham and Newman have been passengers all year and their performances are magnified in our losses.

Newman had a great collect and run into the forward 50 while McEvoy provided an over the top option, she instead took the selfish option and missed. Zanker is our best forward and unfortunately playing ruck with Pearce injured, I'm surprised they didn't swap her with Cunningham.

Disappointed by the lack of changes in the last quarter like maybe getting Daisy into the middle in a crucial period, swapping Zanker/Cunningham around, just something to get a spark. Looks like we'll miss finals again, surely Stinear doesn't survive if that eventuates. 

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10 hours ago, Docs Demons said:

Can't see how the conference system has done us. Injuries and lack of finishing would be more to the point.. We still had our chances to kick goals and stay in front but lack of composure and more likely skills let us down plus a certain tallish lady in forward line is having a shocker.

The comment was after looking at Conference A and seeing that, if we were on it, we would still be second. We may miss finals again despite winning more games than 2nd place in Conference A.

But you're right, We only have ourselves to blame. Again. 

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13 hours ago, Mickey said:

This is that game we always have at least once a year. More of it, more scoring shots, and we get done. 

This is the second game.

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Saw a fair bit of this game and although disappointing that the girls let another one slip through their fingers it's easy to see how the skill level and intensity has improved over the short time that AFLW has been in place. We move the ball so well at times but then it all falls apart once it gets to half forward. Tegan Cunningham might be struggling to stay on the list on her current form. 

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Bitterly disappointing result on Saturday night after such a strong first half. Even though Carlton were clearly the better side in the second half we still had chances at the end of the third quarter to open up a 2 - 3 goal lead which might have been enough.

Cunningham, Newman and O'Dea have been liabilities this year, but with club already into top up players we have no alternative but to persist with them. O'Dea has been a great player for the club, but she can barely run at the moment.

The St Kilda game was always going to come back to bite us - Collingwood play Richmond and the Bulldogs in the last two rounds, so we are going to need to win both games by a decent margin to play finals.

I can't see how Stinear can survive a fourth year of missing finals with the talent at his disposal.

Finally, can someone please explain to me the logic of isolating players all week, then sending them on a commercial plane to Alice Springs to play at a closed venue. Surely they could have played the game at Casey Fields and saved a truck load of money and effort.

 

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1 hour ago, poita said:

 

Cunningham, Newman and O'Dea have been liabilities this year, but with club already into top up players we have no alternative but to persist with them. O'Dea has been a great player for the club, but she can barely run at the moment.

 

O'Dea is probably playing injured, because we have no other players available, but you are right about the other 2.  And these are 2 of our forwards...no surprise we can't kick goals.  The loss of Goldrick was also critical as she repelled attack after attack on her own.

Stinear finally moved Cunningham up the field in the final quarter, but she still barely got a touch.  Perkins at least has a go when needed, but I suspect oppositions have worked out Cunningham in the same way they have worked out Harris ( Carlton).  Deny the space or put on body pressure, and they are lost.

I also can't see Stinear lasting if this continues.  His game plan is based around possession, but with the lack of skill of a lot of players ( across all teams) it inevitably means a mistake will be made, which is where most of Carltons score came from.  If you had a team composed solely of the likes of Paxman, Daisy, Zanker then you could utilise this plan, but it doesn't work with the current crop.

Thank goodness for Paxman and Zanker, who are able to kick the ball long into the forward line.  The ball is rarely marked and spills free.  It creates our opportunities.  We just don't have anyone that can capitalise. 

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2 hours ago, george_on_the_outer said:

O'Dea is probably playing injured, because we have no other players available, but you are right about the other 2.  And these are 2 of our forwards...no surprise we can't kick goals.  The loss of Goldrick was also critical as she repelled attack after attack on her own.

Stinear finally moved Cunningham up the field in the final quarter, but she still barely got a touch.  Perkins at least has a go when needed, but I suspect oppositions have worked out Cunningham in the same way they have worked out Harris ( Carlton).  Deny the space or put on body pressure, and they are lost.

I also can't see Stinear lasting if this continues.  His game plan is based around possession, but with the lack of skill of a lot of players ( across all teams) it inevitably means a mistake will be made, which is where most of Carltons score came from.  If you had a team composed solely of the likes of Paxman, Daisy, Zanker then you could utilise this plan, but it doesn't work with the current crop.

Thank goodness for Paxman and Zanker, who are able to kick the ball long into the forward line.  The ball is rarely marked and spills free.  It creates our opportunities.  We just don't have anyone that can capitalise. 

Yes partly but if they do they Make bad decisions ( four years of this) Newman's run and refusal to  handpass over, and either kick badly handpass poorly and have no composure eg Scott I think with that horrible check left foot kick after a mark a metre out.

Also we have not recruited natural footballers  but some from other codes.Thats why we don't have finishing skills.

And the coach refuses to Change the players around  much at all.

Even though we only had 18 fit that is every reason to change say Daisy Cimniggham Newman etc.

Mick is a fine young person and very good with the girls but his footy smarts in the  Coaches  box And recruiting Skilled football  players are lacking.and hurting our results. 

Four years of the same is far  more than ample proof a Change  is needed.

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4 hours ago, poita said:

Bitterly disappointing result on Saturday night after such a strong first half. Even though Carlton were clearly the better side in the second half we still had chances at the end of the third quarter to open up a 2 - 3 goal lead which might have been enough.

Cunningham, Newman and O'Dea have been liabilities this year, but with club already into top up players we have no alternative but to persist with them. O'Dea has been a great player for the club, but she can barely run at the moment.

The St Kilda game was always going to come back to bite us - Collingwood play Richmond and the Bulldogs in the last two rounds, so we are going to need to win both games by a decent margin to play finals.

I can't see how Stinear can survive a fourth year of missing finals with the talent at his disposal.

Finally, can someone please explain to me the logic of isolating players all week, then sending them on a commercial plane to Alice Springs to play at a closed venue. Surely they could have played the game at Casey Fields and saved a truck load of money and effort.

 

That is the schedule and for once you have made a COMMON SENSE point about the lack of flexibility of the AFLW.

Agsin I think Nicole Livingstone is a puppet from another sport and not strong enough to use her group or opinions.

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https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/aflw/afl-players-association-wants-aflw-finals-to-start-this-weekend-be-expanded-from-six-teams-to-eight/news-story/c5ae108ec0f40ea4b7f7d715b0f4085c
 

If this goes ahead and we get Lozza Pearce back AND the rest of the team/Stinear sharpen up this week then we’ll be right back in it.

Can’t recall if we either play the filth/carlscum (dockers go straight to prelim) or if we play a team from Conference A. Don’t care about the asterisk - I want a dees flag!!!

 

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