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2 minutes ago, Dannyz said:

John Kanga has just now on RSN stated the MRC opposes Melbourne football club using the inside of the track. 

Fantastic.... did he give a reason why?

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4 minutes ago, Dannyz said:

John Kanga has just now on RSN stated the MRC opposes Melbourne football club using the inside of the track. 

Oh dear.

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3 minutes ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

Fantastic.... did he give a reason why?

Not in the interest of racing, the MRC or the residents who would lose their beloved dog park. Kanga himself apparently uses it 😂

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7 minutes ago, Dannyz said:

John Kanga has just now on RSN stated the MRC opposes Melbourne football club using the inside of the track. 

How on earth do we get to this point in negotiations if the MRC opposes us using the inside of the track? I simply don’t understand.

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8 minutes ago, Dannyz said:

John Kanga has just now on RSN stated the MRC opposes Melbourne football club using the inside of the track. 

Im sure he hasnt yet spoken to a complacent blowhard.

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7 minutes ago, Dannyz said:

John Kanga has just now on RSN stated the MRC opposes Melbourne football club using the inside of the track. 

As MRC Chairman his comments carry some weight!

Did they not tell mfc that or was their a loophole ...

As the $195m from Scopus wipes out the MRC's $165m debt they don't need/want us anymore..

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1 minute ago, Roost it far said:

How on earth do we get to this point in negotiations if the MRC opposes us using the inside of the track? I simply don’t understand.

He’s a fairly recent elect and the decision ultimately lay with the Caulfield trust I believe 

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1 minute ago, Dannyz said:

He’s a fairly recent elect and the decision ultimately lay with the Caulfield trust I believe 

So it’s fair to say that the MRC has limited to no involvement in any deal we’re trying to sign up to?

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The MRC has always opposed the grounds inside the track having buildings like change rooms that affect the line of sight of the racing public to the track. I understand this isn't a concern to our bid because the proposed MFC lease area and buildings in the plans are outside the track.

Edited December 10 by Pinball Wizard

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3 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

So it’s fair to say that the MRC has limited to no involvement in any deal we’re trying to sign up to?

If they unequivocally oppose it, the project is dead. 

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Projects have consultation, scope, risk assessment, timelines and budget. This "project" seems more and more like a cheech and chong record.

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From Neos Kosmos:

'Growing up in Collingwood, he is also naturally a huge Collingwood supporter.

'He remembers the days when he used to go to Victoria Park as a kid, after his dad finished work on a Saturday, and stand on beer cans to be able to see the action.

'“That was a bonding of father and son, going to the footy, which I do with my son now, so that’s been carried forward.”

'Kanga, is a successful racehorse owner, and has tried to involve his mates at the Collingwood Football Club in racing, and according to him, “they didn’t need much convincing.”

'He counts Collingwood coach Craig McRae and list boss Justin Leppitsch among his friends, owning a number of shares in horses together, including a horse that finished second in this year’s Group 1 Caulfield Guineas.'

Very hard not to be cynical...

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15 minutes ago, Damo said:

Projects have consultation, scope, risk assessment, timelines and budget. This "project" seems more and more like a cheech and chong record.

imv the 'Feasibility Study' was lacking key features typical of such a study which I detailed in the DL thread at the time.  Those key features seem to be deferred to the 'Business Case' phase.

I just hope the club obtained documented buy-in and agreement from critical stakeholders (inc the MRC) in the 'Feasibility' phase.  And, documented the circumstances for each of them to exit.   

Edited December 10 by Lucifers Hero

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26 minutes ago, Dannyz said:

Not in the interest of racing, the MRC or the residents who would lose their beloved dog park. Kanga himself apparently uses it 😂

Don't think it effects racing in the slightest... plus he will also be able to continue walking his dog there.

Seems to just be outrage for the sake of outrage, which is very common whenever change is involved.

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It looks dead to me

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Not sure that Kanga is helping Coll by canning us at Caulfield.

Coll has already flagged expanding into Gosch's.  Who knows, in 3-8 years they could negotiate the moving of other codes from AAMi and take over the precinct for themselves.  They wouldl get financial and political support we could only dream about.

Edited December 10 by Lucifers Hero

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How long until the next story appears and we’re not part of it.

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53 minutes ago, Dannyz said:

He’s a fairly recent elect and the decision ultimately lay with the Caulfield trust I believe 

Correct and the Government control the Trust.

That may be their preferred position, but we are talking about a race club use, that would be about a dozen days, when they use the track and we won’t train there at those times obviously.

Can’t have footballs flying into race fields.

The rest of the year the area is a barren unused tip.

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Something is off here.

Starting to look like we’ve been led up the garden path.

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59 minutes ago, dice said:

Collingwood supporter. Scum

Collingwood want Goschs, so they would be pushing Caulfield for us.

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3 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Correct and the Government control the Trust.

That may be their preferred position, but we are talking about a race club use, that would be about a dozen days, when they use the track and we won’t train there at those times obviously.

Can’t have footballs flying into race fields.

The rest of the year the area is a barren unused tip.

I love the fear of the 9 people who will no longer be able to walk their dogs despite the club only using a portion of the available land. The area is such a waste of land, we should be a no brainer.

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40 minutes ago, Timothy Reddan-A'Blew said:

From Neos Kosmos:

'Growing up in Collingwood, he is also naturally a huge Collingwood supporter.

'He remembers the days when he used to go to Victoria Park as a kid, after his dad finished work on a Saturday, and stand on beer cans to be able to see the action.

'“That was a bonding of father and son, going to the footy, which I do with my son now, so that’s been carried forward.”

'Kanga, is a successful racehorse owner, and has tried to involve his mates at the Collingwood Football Club in racing, and according to him, “they didn’t need much convincing.”

'He counts Collingwood coach Craig McRae and list boss Justin Leppitsch among his friends, owning a number of shares in horses together, including a horse that finished second in this year’s Group 1 Caulfield Guineas.'

Very hard not to be cynical...

But Collingwood want Goschs, so I imagine he would be getting a call from his mates.

They wouldn’t be happy if he stopped them getting Goschs.

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5 minutes ago, Redleg said:

But Collingwood want Goschs, so I imagine he would be getting a call from his mates.

They wouldn’t be happy if he stopped them getting Goschs.

John receives a phone call from Eddie *John wtf are you doing, walk your dog somewhere else.

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2 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

I don’t know what to call this. Maybe “veiled antisemitism”?

Really?

I call it careful long term Business planning