5 minutes ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

Not their land OD. I’m sure they obviously have some sway in meetings with the CRRT, but end of the day they will have the final decision, which will also include benefits to the Glen Eira community. Having a hugely upgraded public space would be a big draw card I would think.

That maybe but they have been sitting on it for 100 years and they are not going to give up without a fight, right now the tactic is delay, delay it’s only eight months till the next election and unless there is a miracle we will have a change of government. Exactly what they want with then a government with no money who have told the people they will reduce debt. Where is the 100million coming from? Look I want to be there like most members do but I just don’t see it happening. The club has been silent for at least two years a tactic that so has produce very little. If Eddie was at the MFC construction would be underway months ago.

Just now, old dee said:

That maybe but they have been sitting on it for 100 years and they are not going to give up without a fight, right now the tactic is delay, delay it’s only eight months till the next election and unless there is a miracle we will have a change of government. Exactly what they want with then a government with no money who have told the people they will reduce debt. Where is the 100million coming from? Look I want to be there like most members do but I just don’t see it happening. The club has been silent for at least two years a tactic that so has produce very little. If Eddie was at the MFC construction would be underway months ago.

They can delay and push, but if Melbourne FC, local & vic government and Caulfield come to an agreement they can’t stop it. Anyway time will tell, I’ll remain cautiously optimistic until we hear otherwise. I also won’t panic about an article in a pro horse racing media group.

4 minutes ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

They can delay and push, but if Melbourne FC, local & vic government and Caulfield come to an agreement they can’t stop it. Anyway time will tell, I’ll remain cautiously optimistic until we hear otherwise. I also won’t panic about an article in a pro horse racing media group.

See there is a believe the big stopper “vic government”.

6 hours ago, old dee said:

Correct pf. Also the racecourse track would be unusable for a considerable amount of a year. They simply don’t want the problems of creating ovals in the centre of their course. IMO heavy equipment would be needed in the creating the playing ovals. The only way to do that is to cross the racing track meaning repair work after the machinery is finished. So no racing for a considerable time. Sadly we will never IMO get a home there.

od, there is already a drive-through tunnel on the mid west side

not all construction equipment would fit through, but those that don't could be craned in and left inside for extended periods. plus, there is no building construction inside, just equipment for ovals and landscaping. no necessity for long (if any) access across the actual track.

it all looks quite manageable without much interference to the race club

Like @daisycutter I don't understand what is the problem:

Here is the "indicative" proposal: Here is the existing layout:

The Glen Eira Tunnel which provides access for cars on race day is a short walk to the left from the headquarters. If a car can drive there then so can the club van with equipment, and players can certainly walk the distance.

What is the problem?

Edited Sunday at 07:022 days by george_on_the_outer

Under the latest plan George, our headquarters is expected to be to the right of Glenhuntly Park shown on your map. Mount Scopus will be near Gate B.

1 hour ago, old dee said:

unless there is a miracle we will have a change of government.

why do you think there'll be a change of government

31 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

od, there is already a drive-through tunnel on the mid west side

not all construction equipment would fit through, but those that don't could be craned in and left inside for extended periods. plus, there is no building construction inside, just equipment for ovals and landscaping. no necessity for long (if any) access across the actual track.

it all looks quite manageable without much interference to the race club

Nail, head, hit

1 hour ago, Clintosaurus said:

Every thread - the same negative posters bring negative. Not sure how they find the energy.

Coz reality says this thing is dead in the water!

4 minutes ago, BDA said:

why do you think there'll be a change of government

You are kidding I hope? LABOUR has about as much chance of being re elected as I have winning a Mr. Universe title! Not one person that I know supports this manifestly inadequate excuse for a Government! NOT ONE!

10 minutes ago, picket fence said:

You are kidding I hope? LABOUR has about as much chance of being re elected as I have winning a Mr. Universe title! Not one person that I know supports this manifestly inadequate excuse for a Government! NOT ONE!

we'll see

labour have always been corrupt. never stopped them getting re elected before

they'll roll Allan and bring in a new leader before the election. go with a clean slate strategy.

plus there's no credible opposition. the liberals are beyond useless

5 hours ago, bluey said:

You will find that the Act calls for ramps at a certain gradient both ends to allow for disabled access.

Power and lighting.

Fire sprinklers.

Emargency phones.

Air vented in by fans.

Fire extinguishers and first aid points.

Exhaust fans to vent fumes out..

Escape hatch.

Pumps large enough to disperse flooding.

Signage and access for emergency services.

Yep, a Chunnel is a big deal taking into building codes and OH&S into account.

I bet none of their other tunnels have all that equipment

2 hours ago, daisycutter said:

od, there is already a drive-through tunnel on the mid west side

not all construction equipment would fit through, but those that don't could be craned in and left inside for extended periods. plus, there is no building construction inside, just equipment for ovals and landscaping. no necessity for long (if any) access across the actual track.

it all looks quite manageable without much interference to the race club

Except they don't us or anyone on the inside of "their track"

Edited Sunday at 08:452 days by old dee

1 hour ago, BDA said:

why do you think there'll be a change of government

Either way they have no money the state is broke.

3 hours ago, sue said:

Might be true. But maybe they are in no position to insist. Let's hope.

Seriously

They are the racing body. They are the reason the place exists. They are the second most powerful club in an industry that contributes many millions to the Government coffers. Their members rank among the most powerful people in the State.

If it makes sense and benefits the MRC we'll get our ground but we'll always be the lesser tenant. For instance I'll wager we don't have much by way of overhead lights for the ovals. Pitch side facilities will need to be submerged below the sight line plus a million other concessions.

BTW: Where does the high roofed indoor training centre go?

Edited Sunday at 09:012 days by Diamond_Jim

It’ll happen if Munz gets behind it, otherwise I’d suggest it’s dead. I could be wrong but it sounds like our Board and club think they hold some kind of bargaining power….sounds like egos at midnight to me. I stand by my comments that if this falls over it has to take the bulk, if not all, of the Board and possibly Guerra with it. You don’t get to this point to have it fall over unless you’re a bit of a fool.

7 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

What if a player is injured during training and needs to leave in the cart? The cart would need to cross the track which could be more of an issue than players walking across.

How often would this likely happen

7 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

What if a player is injured during training and needs to leave in the cart? The cart would need to cross the track which could be more of an issue than players walking across.

How often would this likely happen

Why can't we just ride horses over the track instead of building a tunnel

5 hours ago, Roost it far said:

It’ll happen if Munz gets behind it, otherwise I’d suggest it’s dead. I could be wrong but it sounds like our Board and club think they hold some kind of bargaining power….sounds like egos at midnight to me. I stand by my comments that if this falls over it has to take the bulk, if not all, of the Board and possibly Guerra with it. You don’t get to this point to have it fall over unless you’re a bit of a fool.

There is a long line of people at the MFC who were on this project who have since been shown the door, a President and CEO have already been unable to get this up and are now gone.

3 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

BTW: Where does the high roofed indoor training centre go?

plenty of room, outside the track, in the mfc-favoured south-east corner

The way some carry on about this 'complex' , about all the things involved, some near seemingly insurmountable... sorry I have to laugh.

In the world of civil engineering, the Metro Tunnel is a complex project, a 100 storey building , not as complex ( these days ) as some would suppose... a new Training establishment for the Dees, OUGHT to be a walk in the park ( or a lap of the course or two ) by comparison. There is NOTHING hard or confronting about this at least not as being presented to date.

The ONLY thing hard....is finding a spot and someone telling us to start. I seriously dont think the coin is the issue some think.

No, the only issue is as of this writing we have nowhere to build. Prospects not looking too flash either.

The redevelopment of Moonee Valley Racecourse must be playing a role here. No racing there for 12 months at least. If that wasn't happening right now I imagine MRC wouldn't have as much hesitancy towards the tunnel and impact to racing.

12 hours ago, old dee said:

Either way they have no money the state is broke.

Being broke never stopped them spending money before. That said a project in an affluent area like Caulfield wouldn’t be a priority

12 hours ago, old dee said:

Either way they have no money the state is broke.

And the other thing, labours buddies love a big build. A $100 million project will line plenty of pockets.

11 minutes ago, BDA said:

And the other thing, labours buddies love a big build. A $100 million project will line plenty of pockets.

Except this isn't really a BIG build... the new school next door .... a much bigger project.