binman 44,841 Posted September 17, 2019 Posted September 17, 2019 11 hours ago, DeeSpencer said: We should be rewarded for not screwing with the careers of Dangerfield, Rioli or Rance. Morton had a heap of talent and no development. Perhaps a compensation pick like they give out for free agents. After all we did the AFL a big favor. Quote
Red and Blue realist 2,063 Posted September 17, 2019 Posted September 17, 2019 11 hours ago, Demonland said: Look at all those names we poo pooed to get Morton. We're our own worst enemy. Hindsight is such a beautiful thing, after their first 2 years 2008/09 all the talk was that we had a great pick who'd easily play 200+ games. Morton averaged over 18 touches in his first year then bumped that up over 22 in year 2, well above Cotchin, miles above Danger and Ward. Then I think he got injured in 2010 and never came back the same player or developed in what he looked like he could be. Anyway, it's a definite no for Masten, his biggest attribute is his ability to run all day, but he's slowed down so much that he's just not worth a second of consideration. Quote
Wiseblood 24,637 Posted September 17, 2019 Posted September 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, Red and Blue realist said: Hindsight is such a beautiful thing, after their first 2 years 2008/09 all the talk was that we had a great pick who'd easily play 200+ games. Morton averaged over 18 touches in his first year then bumped that up over 22 in year 2, well above Cotchin, miles above Danger and Ward. Then I think he got injured in 2010 and never came back the same player or developed in what he looked like he could be. Not only that, but he was very highly rated as a junior, with some scouts believing he wouldn't be out of place as the first pick in the draft. It's not as if we picked him from obscurity, or he was projected to go in the second round. Melbourne fans love the self flagellation of looking at who we could have selected in drafts. It's pointless. 1 Quote
Red and Blue realist 2,063 Posted September 17, 2019 Posted September 17, 2019 Just now, Wiseblood said: Not only that, but he was very highly rated as a junior, with some scouts believing he wouldn't be out of place as the first pick in the draft. It's not as if we picked him from obscurity, or he was projected to go in the second round. Melbourne fans love the self flagellation of looking at who we could have selected in drafts. It's pointless. Spot on, but it's all clubs and their supporters - at least those who follow clubs who haven't won a heap of premierships lately. The reality is all clubs have guys they have overlooked, Fyfe for instant was overlooked by every club, including Freo. There's so many variables when drafting, that only hindsight at the end of their careers says if they got it wrong or right. After 2 years Morton was a great recruit while Danger was a dud. End of their careers and it's so far the other way it isn't funny. Quote
Deeoldfart 8,201 Posted September 17, 2019 Posted September 17, 2019 The absolute essence of a 'vanilla' player. No thanks. Quote
dazzledavey36 56,344 Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 I have watched him a fair bit this year as i watched a lot of WC games. He is an absolute diabolical ball butcher! Runs and spreads hard but that's about it. Hopefully he goes to Gold Coast. Quote
Dee Watcher 71 Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 We are getting Ed Langdon so unless he was willing to play for pretty much nothing i'm not sure why we'd be chasing him. Depth with injuries was an issue but obviously the price point is the key with Masten. All in all i'd be thinking other clubs could make a better offer to him. Quote
jnrmac 20,377 Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 16 hours ago, Older demon said: For those with short memories here is the 2007 draft in which master was taken, There are some interesting names and he was taken pick 3 just before Cale Morton. McEvoy at 9 and Dangerfield at 10 with Rioli at 12 wow. Shows that the gems can be later than expected. Furthermore Tarrant at 15 harry taylor 17 and Alex Rance 18. For me I think we can do better than Masten Geez we nailed that draft Quote
binman 44,841 Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 2 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said: I have watched him a fair bit this year as i watched a lot of WC games. He is an absolute diabolical ball butcher! Runs and spreads hard but that's about it. Hopefully he goes to Gold Coast. How about Masten on one wing and ANB on the other? You'd love it dazzler 1 Quote
binman 44,841 Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 Richmond got rance with a priority pick. I had completely forgotten that. Good get. Quote
Ted Lasso 19,586 Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 Depends on price doesn't it? if the question is would i rather Masten or Wagner or ANB in the side i think it's a pretty easy answer if we get him as a DFA and no huge $$ Quote
Redleg 42,174 Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 4 hours ago, jnrmac said: Geez we nailed that draft Yep. You could argue that 16 of that group of 19, were better than our 2 picks and one of ours was pick 4. A disaster. Unfortunately one of many. 1 Quote
Master Deebater 500 Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Redleg said: Yep. You could argue that 16 of that group of 19, were better than our 2 picks and one of ours was pick 4. A disaster. Unfortunately one of many. We'd probably get a better result using a dart board with Cale in the centre. First throw would be a bulls-eye ? I'm still suffering MFCSS Quote
picket fence 18,188 Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 Morton instead of Dangerfield?? I think I'm Gunna be Sick!! Quote
Go the Biff 3,474 Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, picket fence said: Morton instead of Dangerfield?? I think I'm Gunna be Sick!! Morton's first 2 years were good. Really good. After that we're to blame for his demise as much as he is. Probably more Masten is a ball butcher. Always has been Edited September 18, 2019 by Go the Biff Quote
poita 3,945 Posted September 19, 2019 Posted September 19, 2019 On 9/18/2019 at 12:28 PM, jnrmac said: Geez we nailed that draft That table doesn't even include the worst pick of the bunch - Addam Maric at 21. Quote
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