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Willie Rioli Suspended for 2 years

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    4 years for smoking some weed. It’s legal is some countries. What is the world coming too?!

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    4 hours ago, DubDee said:

    4 years for smoking some weed. It’s legal is some countries. What is the world coming too?!

    It's the tampering of the test which earns the 4 years. For years that clib trotted out the Ben Cousins never tested positive defence. Rioli with foot issues was struggling to get up week to week. We'll never know why he tampered with the test, they will maintain the line of it was only ever Cannabis. 

    If that's the case take the test, get a strike and maintain anonymity 

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    4 hours ago, DubDee said:

    4 years for smoking some weed. It’s legal is some countries. What is the world coming too?!

    You know the 4 years would be for sample tampering, not weed.

    Stop trying to push a pro cannabis line by stating untruths.

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    2 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

    He’s a dope!

    Stop trying to push a pro cannabis line by stating untruths.

     

    Something tells me Moonshadow doesn’t approve of people who smoke weed  

     

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    Mary Jane could def be performance enhancing if used to calm nerves a few hours before game time (can't imagine actually being stoned in a game would help)

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    You'd think giving up weed in exchange for a six figure salary to play footy is a complete no-brainer.

    ...but apparently not.

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    35 minutes ago, binman said:

    Mary Jane could def be performance enhancing if used to calm nerves a few hours before game time (can't imagine actually being stoned in a game would help)

    There is no way you’ll ever convince me that weed is a performance enhancing drug in any contact-sport. 

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    Can't think of any sport it would be performance enhancing.
    Not unless delayed reactions times were important.

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    18 minutes ago, Mel Bourne said:

    There is no way you’ll ever convince me that weed is a performance enhancing drug in any contact-sport. 

     

    6 minutes ago, Fork 'em said:

    Can't think of any sport it would be performance enhancing.
    Not unless delayed reactions times were important.

    What about the 'Munchies Cup', held at 4am world wide that may involve kebabs, pizza or Cheezels?

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    6 minutes ago, Fork 'em said:

    Can't think of any sport it would be performance enhancing.
    Not unless delayed reactions times were important.

    The only “sport” I could see it helping in would be Fortnite. 

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    7 hours ago, DubDee said:

    4 years for smoking some weed. It’s legal is some countries. What is the world coming too?!

    4 years for tampering with a test.

    A fine and counselling for first positive test.

    4 weeks off for second test and publicly named.

    12 months suspension for third positive test.

    It doesn’t matter that it’s legal in parts of the world, marrying your sister and marrying a 10 year old is also legal in other parts of the world. Doesn’t make it right.

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    7 minutes ago, Mel Bourne said:

    The only “sport” I could see it helping in would be Fortnite. 

    Nope .... You need fast reaction times for Fortnite.
    You'll get cleaned up by kids all day long.

    Actually,  I've thought of one .... Fishing.
     

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    5 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

    4 years for tampering with a test.

    A fine and counselling for first positive test.

    4 weeks off for second test and publicly named.

    12 months suspension for third positive test.

    How many warnings do they need? Tampering with a test is severe IMO. They know the rules, they attend WADA/ASADA training and awareness sessions, do the crime....

    Forgive me for not doing my own research here, but was Rioli looking at missing out on finals matches had he just ‘fessed up to a bit of weed? 

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    4 minutes ago, Fork 'em said:

    Nope .... You need fast reaction times for Fortnite.
    You'll get cleaned up by kids all day long.
     

    Sure, at the elite level. 

    I’m talking about the local intra-share house comps. 

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    Just now, Mel Bourne said:

    Forgive me for not doing my own research here, but was Rioli looking at missing out on finals matches had he just ‘fessed up to a bit of weed? 

    Not sure, since he was named publicly it was at least his second positive result. 

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    Just now, Ethan Tremblay said:

    Not sure, since he was named publicly it was at least his second positive result. 

    Hmmm, 

    Obviously his attempts to deceive the testers were foolish and naive, but the prospect of missing (and the pressure of not missing) finals might have persuaded him to take that clumsy risk. 

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    13 minutes ago, Mel Bourne said:

    Sure, at the elite level. 

    I’m talking about the local intra-share house comps. 

    While gaming on dope is fun, Fortnite is a game of reflexes.
    You gotta build like a madman and hit those shots and if you delay for a split second .... You're back in the lobby.
    About to have a couple games now with the kids.... ?

    Above I suggested fishing.
    But second thought at the top level you still need focus.

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    12 minutes ago, Mel Bourne said:

    Hmmm, 

    Obviously his attempts to deceive the testers were foolish and naive, but the prospect of missing (and the pressure of not missing) finals might have persuaded him to take that clumsy risk. 

    Makes sense. 

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    I can understand why some a questioning how canibis, weed, etc can be a PED on game day, and I'll attempt to explain why. ASADA, WADA, etc are not after the guys that smoke weed, they're after those that are using a liquid extract from it that can calm nerves, but also reduce pain and increase pain threshold. This small liquid dose doesn't give you the mind numbing effects, but because it is from the same plant, when they test for it, it comes back positive even if you've smoked it, and thus you are penalised regardless. I hope this helps explain it.

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    15 minutes ago, AshleyH30 said:

    I can understand why some a questioning how canibis, weed, etc can be a PED on game day, and I'll attempt to explain why. ASADA, WADA, etc are not after the guys that smoke weed, they're after those that are using a liquid extract from it that can calm nerves, but also reduce pain and increase pain threshold. This small liquid dose doesn't give you the mind numbing effects, but because it is from the same plant, when they test for it, it comes back positive even if you've smoked it, and thus you are penalised regardless. I hope this helps explain it.

    Sounds like the same effect of camomile tea. Is that banned also?

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    10 minutes ago, america de cali said:

    Sounds like the same effect of camomile tea. Is that banned also?

    I merely tried to explain why it was tested for. If the only way of having it was through a puff or two, I would imagine it would be a detriment as you can't control the dosage. But in some countries, this extract is used medically for pain, anxiety, ect. Which is why it is tested.

    And tea, of any variant, only has Caffeine in it, which isn't considered PE unless in extremely high doses, but go right ahead and assume that people only use weed to get high.

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    3 minutes ago, AshleyH30 said:

    I merely tried to explain why it was tested for. If the only way of having it was through a puff or two, I would imagine it would be a detriment. But in some countries, this extract is used medically for pain, anxiety, ect. Which is why it is tested.

    And tea, of any variant, only has Caffeine in it, which isn't considered PE unless in extremely high doses, but go right ahead and assume that people only use weed to get high.

    Chamomile tea has no caffeine. Players should get on to it before it gets banned. No need for the weed extract and associated complications.

    1. Reducing menstrual pain. ... 
    2. Treating diabetes and lowering blood sugar. ... 
    3. Slowing or preventing osteoporosis. ... 
    4. Reducing inflammation. ... 
    5. Cancer treatment and prevention. ... 
    6. Helping with sleep and relaxation. ... 
    7. Treating cold symptoms.

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    3 minutes ago, america de cali said:

    Chamomile tea has no caffeine. Players should get on to it before it gets banned. No need for the weed extract and associated complications.

    1. Reducing menstrual pain. ... 
    2. Treating diabetes and lowering blood sugar. ... 
    3. Slowing or preventing osteoporosis. ... 
    4. Reducing inflammation. ... 
    5. Cancer treatment and prevention. ... 
    6. Helping with sleep and relaxation. ... 
    7. Treating cold symptoms.

    Having a look at the tea, the molecules that cause the above effects are in low doses. If one of the molecules were to be extracted from the plant in a high dosage and then taken, then yes, it would be considered PE. It's the same with other tea regarding caffeine, which I've stated above. When a natural element is taken out of its source and artificially taken, is the main problem. Most PEDs come from natural sources such as Chamomile Tea.

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    Chamomile tea isn’t banned, THC is. Simples. 

    I drink a chamomile tea every evening, might try smoking it tonight.

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