CASEY: Rd 17 vs Sandringham

[Supermercado 2,797]

2 hours ago, dees-picable said:

Press played a great game, and having him run the whole field must help him improve his fitness/tank to take him to another level....

If Gawn is upright the tank is irrelevant. Can't hurt getting fitter, but needs to develop his forward play.

[Redleg 40,872]

1 hour ago, chook fowler said:

When Bradtke gets a body, look out. Seems well coordinated for someone so tall. Could be a hard to handle forward in a couple of years.

His dad was a man mountain, so Austin could fill out nicely.

[Emerald 1,744]

1 hour ago, chook fowler said:

When Bradtke gets a body, look out. Seems well coordinated for someone so tall. Could be a hard to handle forward in a couple of years.

It looks like he's learning fast too. I'm looking forward to watching his development.

[monoccular 17,417]

5 hours ago, Fifty-5 said:

The ground was lengthened a few years back with an excavation at the southern Sautner end.

Cricket is not played there.

The Saints have been busy yoyoing between Moorabbin and Seaford to trai there.

I don't recall Sandringham restricting MFC player development. In fact at the time when we won 3 or 4 flags there I thought a successful culture may breed success.

I am biased living 200m from TBO - the alliance years were great days for me.

TBO was a decent surface for preseason training though the ‘oval’ was not good for planning on playing at the MCG (or any other AFL venue perhaps with the exception of Kardinia Park) as it was quite narrow with straight parts along the wings.  

The Sandy coach was at the time in a totally separate structure and they were not participating in the MFC game plan (I think it was ND during most of the period of  affiliation) and had zero interest in MFC player development. 

And TBO was a good ground for access with parking and public transport. 

[chook fowler 19,447]

22 minutes ago, Redleg said:

His dad was a man mountain, so Austin could fill out nicely.

Fish Salmon comes to mind as a doppelgänger 

[Redleg 40,872]

24 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

Fish Salmon comes to mind as a doppelgänger 

Yep, huge guys.

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

On 7/27/2019 at 3:44 PM, demonstone said:

We also won the night flag in 1989 by beating Geelong in the final.

Sure did ....missed that one for some reason DS.   Did you happen to make that?

[FireInTheBennelly 4,072]

2 hours ago, Supermercado said:

If Gawn is upright the tank is irrelevant. Can't hurt getting fitter, but needs to develop his forward play.

How can he develop his forward play while rucking at Casey though?

[Pennant St Dee 13,146]

On 7/26/2019 at 11:09 AM, Sir Why You Little said:

Hate these games. I lived in Sandy for 20 years, Celebrated Flags in the Beach Oval Social Club. 

Now i feel no connection 

Thanks AFL...

Yep all grass roots footy across the board getting screwed by AFL, turning into America sports wise, all about TV audiences 

[rjay 24,902]

4 hours ago, Pennant St Dee said:

Yep all grass roots footy across the board getting screwed by AFL, turning into America sports wise, all about TV audiences 

Grass roots footy has done a pretty good job screwing itself also 'Pennant'...

In the single minded chase to the flag clubs throw ridiculous amounts of cash at players & it's not sustainable.

Others have talked about the good old days of the VFA and whilst the AFL playing Sunday's put the final nail in, the money in other competitions made it hard to compete.

A lot of clubs have spent themselves out of existence and alianated a lot of their kids along the way... 

[Supermercado 2,797]

13 hours ago, FireInTheBelly said:

How can he develop his forward play while rucking at Casey though?

That's my point, don't ruck him for the rest of the year. Play him at full forward, kick it at him, and if he's not good enough to make something of it in the VFL then we'll know he's not going to do it in the AFL without further work.

[rjay 24,902]

15 hours ago, Supermercado said:

If Gawn is upright the tank is irrelevant. Can't hurt getting fitter, but needs to develop his forward play.

 

13 hours ago, FireInTheBelly said:

How can he develop his forward play while rucking at Casey though?

 

34 minutes ago, Supermercado said:

That's my point, don't ruck him for the rest of the year. Play him at full forward, kick it at him, and if he's not good enough to make something of it in the VFL then we'll know he's not going to do it in the AFL without further work.

Not much point in developing his forward craft when he still has a long way to go as a ruckman.

He's primary here as a backup for Max and whilst it would be handy if his forward craft were better in the end it's his ruck craft that's important...

[Supermercado 2,797]

8 minutes ago, rjay said:

 

 

Not much point in developing his forward craft when he still has a long way to go as a ruckman.

He's primary here as a backup for Max and whilst it would be handy if his forward craft were better in the end it's his ruck craft that's important...

If Gawn (god forbid) goes down for 3 months yes - although we covered that reasonably well a couple of years ago without a real second ruckman. If we're clear that he's a break in case of emergency ruckman who might play two games a year if Gawn is fit then I can handle it, but can also see benefit in a forward who can have an impact rucking F50 stoppages.

[BlueandRedTilImDead 3]

Damn thats some good stats by Preuss, Granted he didnt really have much in the way of opposition. Hes a very good VFL level footballer but still has a long way to go to get to being a semi decent AFL level player

[joeboy 3,165]

I actually believe Preuss is an above average tap ruckman already but needs to work on his fitness  and agility.

He’s  only 24 (I think ) so his upside is immense considering most ruckmen, including Max, don’t really peak until mid to late 20’s.

His attitude is impressive ,as evidenced by his best on field performance for Casey yesterday, despite having just been demoted.

i think we’ll be raving about our twin peaks  sooner rather than later

[KC from Casey 7,063]

THE MOMENT OF TRUTH IS COMING by KC from Casey

At half time in Sunday’s game at Trevor Barker Beach Oval, things weren’t looking too flash for the flailing finals prospects of the Casey Demons. Key forward Sam Weideman had suffered a concussion in his first contest and, with a few exceptions, the team was playing like a rabble rather than a finals contender. The Demons were 23 points in arrears to the Zebras and their season was headed towards oblivion.

It was the skipper Mitch White who spurred his team on by word and by deed - he finished with three goals and really rallied the team to a great comeback that saw the team’s final hopes remain on track with a 12-points victory.

But if White was the catalyst, then it was certainly ruckman Braydon Preuss who made up for the disappointment of being dropped from Melbourne’s losing side against the Eagles to record an outstanding 185 dream team points in one of the best ruck performances seen at this level. The Demon big man was easily best on the ground with 27 possessions, 14 clearances, four tackles and 59 hit-outs. He even kicked a goal as the cherry on top of his stellar performance.

If there was anyone who came close to the same stratosphere as Preuss then it was Jimmy Munro who recorded 18 kicks and 12 handballs on top of eight crunching tackles. He well and truly put the Saints’ Jack Stevens under the hammer and earned the accolades of all and sundry at the ground for his persistence and determination.

Twenty third player Ariek Lual showed some flashes of brilliance and will be worth watching as a player with definite X factor attributes.

There were some other good performances on the day - mostly in the second half - with defender Marty Hore returning from a broken collarbone sustained less than a month ago. Jay Kennedy Harris was, as usual, very steady and reliable at this level.

The Demons remain in ninth place on the VFL ladder and, following narrow losses in their previous two games, are very much an outside chance of progressing any higher on the ladder. This week they face a tough battle against ladder leaders Richmond VFL at the Swinburne Centre and will have to be at their absolute best to get the points and remain in the finals race.

The moment of truth is coming.

2019 Hard Yakka / Totally Workwear VFL

Casey Demons 2.0.12 4.5.29 9.9.63 12.11.83

Sandringham 4.1.25 8.4.52 10.4.64 11.5.71

Goals

Casey Demons White 3 Dunkley Lockhart Melksham 2 Jordon Lefau Preuss  

Sandringham Joyce Owens Steven 2 Answerth Parker Rice Seccull Young

 Best

Sandringham Joyce Seccull White Marsh Steven Fox

Casey Demons Preuss Hore Kennedy-Harris Munro White Lual

Statistics

Toby Bedford 1 behind 3 kicks 7 handballs 10 disposals 9 tackles 63 dream team points 
Austin Bradtke 4 kicks 3 handballs 7 disposals 3 marks 1 tackle 2 hit outs 33 dream team points  
Kade Chandler 6 kicks 10 handballs 16 disposals 1 mark 5 tackles 59 dream team points  
Wayne Collis 7 kicks 8 handballs 15 disposals 1 mark 4 tackles 58 dream team points 
Kyle Dunkley 2 goals 13 kicks 7 handballs 20 disposals 4 marks 7 tackles 106 dream team points  
Tom Freeman 12 kicks 4 handballs 16 disposals 3 marks 1 tackle 55 dream team points  
Marty Hore 15 kicks 5 handballs 20 disposals 6 marks 1 tackle 77 dream team points  
Jack Hutchins 1 behind 8 kicks 2 handballs 10 disposals 4 marks 4 tackles 57 dream team points  
James Jordon 1 goal 7  kicks 8 handballs 15 disposals 1 mark 2 tackles 55 dream team points  
Declan Keilty 3 kicks 4 handballs 7 disposals 2 marks 1 tackles 14 hit outs 41 dream team points  
Jay Kennedy Harris 16 kicks 8 handballs 24 disposals 1 mark 4 tackles 77 dream team points  
Mykelti Lefau 1 goal 6 kicks 3 handballs 9 disposals 2 marks 33 dream team points  
Jay Lockhart 2 goals 7 kicks 5 handballs 12 disposals 2 marks 5 tackles 65 dream team points  
Ariek Lual 5 kicks 6 handballs 11 disposals 3 marks 5 tackles 57 dream team points  
Jake Melksham 2 goals 1 behind 11 kicks 5 handballs 16 disposals 5 marks 5 tackles 85 dream team points  
James Munro 1 behind 18 kicks 12 handballs 30 disposals 4 marks 8 tackles 121 dream team points  
Braydon Preuss 1 goal 1 behind 24 kicks 3 handballs 27 disposals 8 marks 4 tackles 59 hit outs 185 dream team points  
Aiden Quigley 2 kicks 2 handballs 4 disposals 1 mark 2 tackles 22 dream team points
Cory Stockdale 1 kicks 6 handballs 7 disposals 1 marks 3 tackles 21 dream team points 
Billy Stretch 9 kicks 7 handballs 16 disposals 2 marks 48 dream team points  
Luke Tynan 3 kicks 10 handballs 13 disposals 2 marks 2 tackles 43 dream team points 
Sam Weideman - injured early in game (no statistics)
Mitch White 3 goals 3 behinds 12 kicks 3 handballs 15 disposals 4 marks 1 tackles 73 dream team points  

Edited July 29, 2019 by KC from Casey

[Anti-Saint 245]

On 7/27/2019 at 3:16 PM, Rusty Nails said:

 

No.4 one of my favs.  Dug the handball off the ground to Bailey for the winning goal in the only premiership I've witnessed (aside from plenty of other clubs ?) In 87 vs Eseendrug.

Run down from behind (with ball in hand...i think) at the G one arvo and king hit from behind by one of the dirtiest players I've seen play the game.  Pretty sure he returned in the second half with little impact.  Something that would never happen today.  He was out cold.  A bit like me after after half time at most games.

that thug Rusty went on to be the GOAT and coached great teams of, wait for it, thugs!

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

3 hours ago, Anti-Saint said:

that thug Rusty went on to be the GOAT and coached great teams of, wait for it, thugs!

Yes still a dirty thug in my eyes AS.  Arguably the greatest by some but i have Ablett Snr & the King before him in that order.

Happily paid my $$ on two occasions to watch Ablett play at the Cattery.  The only time i've done so with Opp teams outside of GFs. 

The only downside was dodging all the thermoses, picnic blankets, director's chairs and avoiding the same question on a few occasions "aren't you at the wrong match?" (Demon scarf on).

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,710]

7 hours ago, Rusty Nails said:

Yes still a dirty thug in my eyes AS.  Arguably the greatest by some but i have Ablett Snr & the King before him in that order.

Happily paid my $$ on two occasions to watch Ablett play at the Cattery.  The only time i've done so with Opp teams outside of GFs. 

The only downside was dodging all the thermoses, picnic blankets, director's chairs and avoiding the same question on a few occasions "aren't you at the wrong match?" (Demon scarf on).

Likewise. Ablett Sr is the only player I've ever made the effort to go to a game to see live.  We have the same three top players, but mine's in reverse order (ie, Matthews, Carey and Ablett Sr).