Demons Grand Plan for Yarra Park Training HQ

[old dee 23,787]

2 minutes ago, Neil Crompton said:

OD, don’t we have to actually have to put a valid proposal forward to the Govt to be reviewed and then money is perhaps allocated if the proposal is valid? 

I’m not aware we have been proactive enough to do this formally as yet - or at least recently.

Oh we had a plan but sadly everyone thought it was a crap idea. If they are working on a plan none bar a very small group must know what it is as the silence is deafening.

[Mazer Rackham 14,971]

With no elections on the cards for another 3 years or so, the various parties can safely ignore us. (Assuming we weren't being ignored anyway.)

[deebug 1,754]

So we put the idea away yet again?

[Diamond_Jim 12,569]

3 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Thanks to the Australian voters a number of clubs won't get their 'promised' $15-$20 million Federal funding.  eg Hawks, Cats, Bulldogs.

doubt it... the think tank will merely will merely be working on when to throw the money for the maximum electoral advantage.

Now is the time to push for Casey... to do otherwise risks another xxxx years of nothing.

The difficulty is predicting the future.

Who would have thought three years ago that the driving mantra would have been women in football.

Care to guess the next one ??

[old dee 23,787]

1 hour ago, Diamond_Jim said:

doubt it... the think tank will merely will merely be working on when to throw the money for the maximum electoral advantage.

Now is the time to push for Casey... to do otherwise risks another xxxx years of nothing.

The difficulty is predicting the future.

Who would have thought three years ago that the driving mantra would have been women in football.

Care to guess the next one ??

Some social issue outside football that Gill sorry the AFL should champion.

Are there any rounds left for a new theme weekend?

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,753]

On 5/15/2019 at 5:15 PM, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Geelong is smart. Getting the promise from the party most likely (if the polls are correct) to form Government.

Well, that didn't age well. (I'm so glad I added "if the polls are correct".)

[old dee 23,787]

7 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Well, that didn't age well. (I'm so glad I added "if the polls are correct".)

And the Pies win again. Their money was guaranteed by both parties. 

I have to say that Collingwood have left us in their wake both on and off the field.

The MFC are the poor cousins enteral Melbourne.

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

11 minutes ago, old dee said:

And the Pies win again. Their money was guaranteed by both parties. 

I have to say that Collingwood have left us in their wake both on and off the field.

The MFC are the poor cousins enteral Melbourne.

Sorry OD i can't decide whether you are saying we are suffering from some sort of indegestion or we were suffering and should now be feeling better, having passed a motion of some sort?

If it's the latter i must have missed something!

[old dee 23,787]

14 minutes ago, Rusty Nails said:

Sorry OD i can't decide whether you are saying we are suffering from some sort of indegestion or we were suffering and should now be feeling better, having passed a motion of some sort?

If it's the latter i must have missed something!

No bloody predictive script has got me again. Should be "central".

[ManDee 7,134]

Just now, old dee said:

No bloody predictive script has got me again. Should be "central".

I took tube fed as a comment, almost witty.

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

14 minutes ago, old dee said:

No bloody predictive script has got me again. Should be "central".

Ah the old predictive trip up.  And it's supposed to be helping us! ?

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,753]

29 minutes ago, old dee said:

No bloody predictive script has got me again. Should be "central".

Oh! My money was on "eternal". 

[DV8 2,271]

5 hours ago, old dee said:

And the Pies win again. Their money was guaranteed by both parties. 

I have to say that Collingwood have left us in their wake both on and off the field.

The MFC are the poor cousins enteral Melbourne.

Our directors... recommended from the North, over the decades,  have put us into this position.....  because they could never see any other ideal of an outside home base...  because they are all In-Love with the MCG,  and the Mcc_

They're whole concept is based on a Love of the Mcc,  first & foremost...  and trying to make Melbourne-great again,  as an  'appendage'  of the Mcc.

 

Trying this over and over again...  IS  the reason this club has slowly died on the vine.   The Mcc has never given this footy club its Needs.  but kept it as  some-sort  of doorman,  into  the Mcc....

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

1 hour ago, DV8 said:

....They're whole concept is based on a Love of the Mcc,  first & foremost...  and trying to make Melbourne-great again,  as an  'appendage'  of the Mcc....

 

[Diamond_Jim 12,569]

2 hours ago, DV8 said:

Our directors... recommended from the North, over the decades,  have put us into this position.....  because they could never see any other ideal of an outside home base...  because they are all In-Love with the MCG,  and the Mcc_

They're whole concept is based on a Love of the Mcc,  first & foremost...  and trying to make Melbourne-great again,  as an  'appendage'  of the Mcc.

 

Trying this over and over again...  IS  the reason this club has slowly died on the vine.   The Mcc has never given this footy club its Needs.  but kept it as  some-sort  of doorman,  into  the Mcc....

There's something in what you say.

Wonder how many members of the Board are MCC members.

My guess would be most if not all of them.

We all love the MCG and its environs but going forward we need to look elsewhere or get left in the dust. A complex like Essendon have, that Hawthorn are building and Collingwood are planning take years to put in place. Carlton will be next although they will not have an easy task expanding Princes Park.

Is there a ten, twenty year plan for the MFC?

[old dee 23,787]

34 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

There's something in what you say.

Wonder how many members of the Board are MCC members.

My guess would be most if not all of them.

We all love the MCG and its environs but going forward we need to look elsewhere or get left in the dust. A complex like Essendon have, that Hawthorn are building and Collingwood are planning take years to put in place. Carlton will be next although they will not have an easy task expanding Princes Park.

Is there a ten, twenty year plan for the MFC?

Not sure there is one for 2020 let alone ten or twenty years  DJ.

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

51 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

There's something in what you say.

Wonder how many members of the Board are MCC members.

My guess would be most if not all of them.

We all love the MCG and its environs but going forward we need to look elsewhere or get left in the dust. A complex like Essendon have, that Hawthorn are building and Collingwood are planning take years to put in place. Carlton will be next although they will not have an easy task expanding Princes Park.

Is there a ten, twenty year plan for the MFC?

 

14 minutes ago, old dee said:

Not sure there is one for 2020 let alone ten or twenty years  DJ.

Absolutely nothing to worry about gents! ....

[old dee 23,787]

2 minutes ago, Rusty Nails said:

 

Absolutely nothing to worry about gents! ....

Glad to see you still have your sense of humour RN. It is a basic requirement of a Dees supporter.

[DV8 2,271]

1 hour ago, Diamond_Jim said:

There's something in what you say.

Wonder how many members of the Board are MCC members.

My guess would be most if not all of them.

We all love the MCG and its environs but going forward we need to look elsewhere or get left in the dust. A complex like Essendon have, that Hawthorn are building and Collingwood are planning take years to put in place. Carlton will be next although they will not have an easy task expanding Princes Park.

Is there a ten, twenty year plan for the MFC?

adding onto this theme... 

I think THE most important thing Our club will ever do.....  is to remove our Board Committee meetings out of the  Mcc/Mcg.....     Outside to somewhere we can all socialize together in smart casual street clothes.

... so all Mfc members can have a chance to get to Know those who may one day nominate for a directorship of the Mfc.

This way we all can know who the nominees are and what we think of the types and If we think they know footy and business etc.

 

These nominations/Nominees Should NOT happen from within the walls of the Mcc....   but from within the walls of the Mfc.!!!

[Sorry kids 635]

1 hour ago, DV8 said:

adding onto this theme... 

I think THE most important thing Our club will ever do.....  is to remove our Board Committee meetings out of the  Mcc/Mcg.....     Outside to somewhere we can all socialize together in smart casual street clothes.

... so all Mfc members can have a chance to get to Know those who may one day nominate for a directorship of the Mfc.

This way we all can know who the nominees are and what we think of the types and If we think they know footy and business etc.

 

These nominations/Nominees Should NOT happen from within the walls of the Mcc....   but from within the walls of the Mfc.!!!

Agree, It is a very strange situation all around. Even the name Melbourne, does it refer to the CBD or all of suburban Melbourne. My issue with the Yarra park proposal is it does not encourage community engagement to any real extent.

[DV8 2,271]

45 minutes ago, Sorry kids said:

Agree, It is a very strange situation all around. Even the name Melbourne, does it refer to the CBD or all of suburban Melbourne. My issue with the Yarra park proposal is it does not encourage community engagement to any real extent.

It's just another appendage of the 'G' grounds... essentialy the Mcc.    More of the same,  within Apron-Strings reach of mother.

 

There is one thing I will say for that  ProPosal,  at Yarra park... it has the East Melbourne frontage,  which would allow decent Lease/rental arrangements of the office spaces,  not being used by the Mfc...  so anOther source of income,  from the multi story deevelopment...  and very cheap land acquisition,  I would imagine...  as it's really buying Air space.

 

But again,  are they  ( PJ & Board ), thinking Primarily of acquiring money first and foremost... or of growing the grass roots of the club... and of Diversifying this clubs Deemographics,  so it has a broad reach to all areas of our Melbourne populous.

 

 

The Train-Traffic thru Richmond would have to be maybe 10 fold,  that of Jolymont station.  That is a far bigger passing trade...  than that of the the,  InDeecent Proposal.

 

So money/status grab... Or People and growth ProPosal...  growing the clubs base broader,  wider.  And in doing so,  a Healthier club into the future.

 

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Edited May 21, 2019 by DV8

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

3 hours ago, old dee said:

Glad to see you still have your sense of humour RN. It is a basic requirement of a Dees supporter.

Imagine if we won the big one OD... would get pretty crazy around here

[Neil Crompton 5,535]

I am not up to date with what has and has not been proposed, but from my professional experience I would be astounded if any Yarra Park proposal would get up, as much as we all may want it to. Taking over historic, heritage parkland, changing the historic layout, removing trees and blocking existing views into the parkland from outside are just a few of the key problems a proposal would face and thus would undoubtably fail.

I think the only location close by that would have a chance of succeeding IMO would be proposing a development on Goshs Paddock ovals 1 and 2. It’s an area that is already a sporting precinct, does not have the heritage issues and any tall development would not block public views. Obviously there are still issues to be faced, including relocating the current tenants of GP Oval 1. 

However,I don’t expect we will hear anything about our new home until a formal proposal is prepared and lodged with the relevant Authorities. I hope it is soon. 

[chookrat 4,247]

I have an alternative proposal that would be perfect.

Why don't we build an exact replica of the MCG directly under the MCG. The land is not being used for any purpose and as Demons what better place to raise hell than under ground. I bet we could borrow some of the giant bores that are being used to dig the tunnels for the new train line to hollow out under the G and save on costs. We could even install an elevator directly up to our admin in the MCG. 

#Winning

Edited May 21, 2019 by chookrat

[old dee 23,787]

39 minutes ago, Neil Crompton said:

I am not up to date with what has and has not been proposed, but from my professional experience I would be astounded if any Yarra Park proposal would get up, as much as we all may want it to. Taking over historic, heritage parkland, changing the historic layout, removing trees and blocking existing views into the parkland from outside are just a few of the key problems a proposal would face and thus would undoubtably fail.

I think the only location close by that would have a chance of succeeding IMO would be proposing a development on Goshs Paddock ovals 1 and 2. It’s an area that is already a sporting precinct, does not have the heritage issues and any tall development would not block public views. Obviously there are still issues to be faced, including relocating the current tenants of GP Oval 1. 

However,I don’t expect we will hear anything about our new home until a formal proposal is prepared and lodged with the relevant Authorities. I hope it is soon. 

My guess is a week before the next AGM.