18 to 9 Frees in favour of Hawthorn and the umpires have missed a few crucial ones for Carlton in last 5 mins

They're having am awful year!

Hawks find a way to trade & get players whilst risky with a few they always get more right than wrong unlike the MFC

Omera 43 touches 1 goal

Scully 23 touches 1 goal

Wingard 17 touches 2 goals

vs 

Lever & May 0 & 0

7 minutes ago, Demonsone said:

Hawks find a way to trade & get players whilst risky with a few they always get more right than wrong unlike the MFC

Omera 43 touches 1 goal

Scully 23 touches 1 goal

Wingard 17 touches 2 goals

vs 

Lever & May 0 & 0

And People on here want to trade Petracca... ?‍♂️

5 minutes ago, Demonsone said:

Hawks find a way to trade & get players whilst risky with a few they always get more right than wrong unlike the MFC

Omera 43 touches 1 goal

Scully 23 touches 1 goal

Wingard 17 touches 2 goals

vs 

Lever & May 0 & 0

I don't see the need that so many people have to take pot-shots at injured players.  Lever had zero possessions this round because he did his knee playing for our club after coping months of abuse from Adelaide fans for joining us.

O'Meara was excellent today - absolutely useless in his first year at Hawthorn.

All, these wonderful recruits haven't won them a final in a few years and were certainly of no help to them when we beat them by 5 goals last September.

 

It was a good, exciting match that went down to the wire.  Enjoy it.

9 minutes ago, Graeme Yeats' Mullet said:

And People on here want to trade Petracca... ?‍♂️

Relevance?

If we are comparing veterans with Carlton, there's a quality element to consider. Right now only Gawn and Melksham are without doubt among our better players, even Jetta was out of form before his injury.

For Carlton, Murphy, Kruezer and Simpson are absolutely crucial players, and in two week's time all three will be over-30.

Still, no pretense here, Carlton's young onball group is spectacular, led by the current best inside midfielder in the game Cripps and the onball all-rounder teenage brilliance of Walsh, neither of which you could sensibly trade for any other player on offer.

I think a certain comparison can be made between Carlton and the pre-resurgence Richmond. They have a group of currently young or youngish players who can provide the core, in the event that in a few year's time they hit a jackpot for a couple of drafts and trade sessions.

Murphy was terrible today.

32 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

I don't see the need that so many people have to take pot-shots at injured players.  Lever had zero possessions this round because he did his knee playing for our club after coping months of abuse from Adelaide fans for joining us.

O'Meara was excellent today - absolutely useless in his first year at Hawthorn.

All, these wonderful recruits haven't won them a final in a few years and were certainly of no help to them when we beat them by 5 goals last September.

 

It was a good, exciting match that went down to the wire.  Enjoy it.

Fair enough noted...just wanted to highlight the tale of 2 clubs

On another note Hawks have got 2 former number 1 picks & have won 4 flags since 08 go figure!

2 minutes ago, bingers said:

Murphy was terrible today.

From what I saw I agree. He seems to be playing not to get hurt and avoid body contact and his disposal has become like ours.

1 minute ago, Redleg said:

From what I saw I agree. He seems to be playing not to get hurt and avoid body contact and his disposal has become like ours.

I really don't think he is that bad, if fact is anyone that bad.

16 minutes ago, Matsuo Basho said:

Relevance?

Pretty clear...

We've had poor results trading, so why trade an average performer and expect to get something better??

2 minutes ago, Graeme Yeats' Mullet said:

Pretty clear...

We've had poor results trading, so why trade an average performer and expect to get something better??

He still has trade cachè by virtue of reputation and rare flashes of brilliance. We can get a decent pick for him and trade/draft a better player, perhaps in a position of more pressing need. 

My view is twelve months from now he will be worth less than we can get now.

1 minute ago, Matsuo Basho said:

He still has trade cachè by virtue of reputation and rare flashes of brilliance. We can get a decent pick for him and trade/draft a better player, perhaps in a position of more pressing need. 

My view is twelve months from now he will be worth less than we can get now.

Or other teams recruiting departments see through his "flashes of brilliance" and our desperation and offer SFA...

Or worse we take SFA and another team realises the potential we almost had a-la Howe, Dunn, Martin, ... 

1 minute ago, Graeme Yeats' Mullet said:

Or other teams recruiting departments see through his "flashes of brilliance" and our desperation and offer SFA...

Or worse we take SFA and another team realises the potential we almost had a-la Howe, Dunn, Martin, ... 

Not really the thread for it.  

But its more important for the club to persist with Trac and develop a culture and system of bringing the best out of players.  More important than a potential trade.  FYI: I would keep him as you can see its there.

 

8 minutes ago, Graeme Yeats' Mullet said:

Or other teams recruiting departments see through his "flashes of brilliance" and our desperation and offer SFA...

Or worse we take SFA and another team realises the potential we almost had a-la Howe, Dunn, Martin, ... 

A club in the 5-8 range on the ladder would go for him thinking he can help unlock their premiership window. Port Adelaide under Hinkley comes readily to mind. 

We can still get pick 13-16 for him if we trade now. Hardly SFA.

Its a tough call I get it but the right one. He’s never going to be the player you dream/hope he will be. Doesn’t have the right mindset. Col Sylvia Mk2.

Carlton you losers. Youy could have put the hawks at 2-4.   What a pathetic choke, now the Hawks will have their confidence up against us. 

4 minutes ago, Matsuo Basho said:

A club in the 5-8 range on the ladder would go for him thinking he can help unlock their premiership window. Port Adelaide under Hinkley comes readily to mind. 

We can still get pick 13-16 for him if we trade now. Hardly SFA.

Its a tough call I get it but the right one. He’s never going to be the player you dream/hope he will be. Doesn’t have the right mindset. Col Sylvia Mk2.

So he can get Port Adelaide over the line for a flag, but not us..?

 

 

11 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

So he can get Port Adelaide over the line for a flag, but not us..?

 

 

He won’t. 

15 minutes ago, Matsuo Basho said:

He won’t. 

I suspect Port will have learned their lesson dealing with players we want to offload - Jacky boy and Jimmy Toumpas!!

Edited April 28, 20196 yr by bingers

9 minutes ago, Matsuo Basho said:

He won’t. 

But they’ll still cough-up a first rounder for him..?

3 minutes ago, bingers said:

I suspect Port will have learned their lesson dealing with players we want to offloaded - Jacky boy and Jimmy Toumpas!!

Possibly. But never underestimate a desperate coach under pressure to recruit for immediate success.

GWS is the other one. Leon Cameron can’t go round forever without silverware. Nor can they keep losing senior talent and keep topping up with high draft picks. They would take a good look at Petracca.

3 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

But they’ll still cough-up a first rounder for him..?

I think so. A coach under pressure in the top half of the ladder would pay a mid to late first rounder. 14-18.

Can I confirm people mean Cachet, when they say cache

 

5 hours ago, Little Goffy said:

Not seen in over a century of football until recently. I wonder what it was that was wrong with women that was preventing them umpiring, that has been cured now? ?

No female urinals,  and masseurs,  back then...   and sports Bras ? ?

4 hours ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

the blues who have a whopping seven players aged 29 and over; they're not nearly as young and inexperienced as everyone makes out

So what they have is...  plenty of Cap space coming up,  to cover their special young players as they start to grow into AFL men.

 They,  are going to catch us,  with our shorts at ankle level.