7 hours ago, Whispering_Jack said:

The powers that be have completely misread the situation. The AFL is a competition of 18 tribal clubs and the fans will either follow them or a state based competition in the pre-season. I’m highly skeptical about them going for this concept and predict it will end in complete failure. 

Compare this with what they had earlier this year - a basically simple format of the game in a short form. They should have worked on its weaknesses and come up with a better game but within the club concept. The clubs, in turn, would have presented teams that showcased some established players and some recruits who supporters are eager to see at this time of year. Remember Bayley Fritsch kicking three goals in one of the games?

This simply  will not generate any interest and, in turn, that will signal the end of AFLX.

No. Which is why AFLX doesn't work with AFL teams. It's meaningless. And the AFL needs to be very careful that the meaningless product doesn't drag down the premium product with it. That's cricket's big risk with BBL cricket.

I still think there's a role for the AFLX game. But not with professional AFL players. Just like there's a role for Auskick. It can be used to introduce non-AFL jurisdictions to AFL. 

I am amazed that people are missing the number 1 point. They don't give a hoot how it goes here. That is why it is a mickey mouse event. They do care about showing it overseas and seeing if they can create interest for other countries to play it. There is no way AFL can break new markets for true participation. However AFLX with smaller grounds needed, less people per team, high speed, less contact. 

Choose your allegiance. 

 

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1 hour ago, Demonland said:

Choose your allegiance. 

 

Top left has to be Team Speed due to the Flash icon. Bottom left would appear to be Team Indigenous due to the boomerang. Guesses for the other two?

14 minutes ago, raDeelaide said:

Top left has to be Team Speed due to the Flash icon. Bottom left would appear to be Team Indigenous due to the boomerang. Guesses for the other two?

Bottom right- Team Bull_ _ _ _.

What the?

 

well I was disinterested before but this new unveiling of the logos has me all fired up. I can't wait for this now. The logos look great, and the AFL executive clearly knows what they are doing tapping into the youth market.

 

Seriously - who am I kidding? The whole concept is a disgrace and totally unnecessary. Imagine if Danger actually plays in his team and goes down with an injury. Geelong will sue the AFL. I hope no dees players get the call up and actually play.

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On 12/15/2018 at 4:32 PM, big_red_fire_engine said:

I am amazed that people are missing the number 1 point.  They do care about showing it overseas and seeing if they can create interest for other countries to play it. There is no way AFL can break new markets for true participation. However AFLX with smaller grounds needed, less people per team, high speed, less contact. 

Well said. 

AFLX is not my cup of tea but it may well be very attractive to any number of people ... both existing traditional footy fans and the billions of potential new fans world-wide.  Millennials are more likely to take to the rectangular version of the sport but pointing the finger of blame at millennials is absurd. 

No one is forcing anyone to watch it but it will almost certainly gain an audience.  It is worth a punt by the powers that be - they quite literally have nothing to lose.  And AFLX is not a threat to AFL either. 

This whole debate reminds me of the intense dislike that people had towards t20 cricket when it first burst on the scene.  Before that,  ODI's used to cop it. 

By the way,  I'm not a fan of t20 either but I don't have to be to recognise how strong & vibrant the 3 hour version of cricket is.   Give me Test cricket any day of the week but the sport is losing its appeal because of how progress works.

 

1 hour ago, Macca said:

Well said. 

AFLX is not my cup of tea but it may well be very attractive to any number of people ... both existing traditional footy fans and the billions of potential new fans world-wide.  Millennials are more likely to take to the rectangular version of the sport but pointing the finger of blame at millennials is absurd. 

No one is forcing anyone to watch it but it will almost certainly gain an audience.  It is worth a punt by the powers that be - they quite literally have nothing to lose.  And AFLX is not a threat to AFL either. 

This whole debate reminds me of the intense dislike that people had towards t20 cricket when it first burst on the scene.  Before that,  ODI's used to cop it. 

By the way,  I'm not a fan of t20 either but I don't have to be to recognise how strong & vibrant the 3 hour version of cricket is.   Give me Test cricket any day of the week but the sport is losing its appeal because of how progress works.

I understand what you are saying Macca. 

But why do we need to promote the game worldwide? I have never understood this. It is an Australian game. If people want to see it they can come here during the season. Changing the game to suit other countries i disagree with strong. Our game is unique, which is it’s appeal. 

This AFLX is just cheap garbage for the broadcasters to sell some advertising space. 

Somebody will get injured and clubs and fans will not be impressed

3 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

I understand what you are saying Macca. 

But why do we need to promote the game worldwide? I have never understood this. It is an Australian game. If people want to see it they can come here during the season. Changing the game to suit other countries i disagree with strong. Our game is unique, which is it’s appeal. 

This AFLX is just cheap garbage for the broadcasters to sell some advertising space. 

Somebody will get injured and clubs and fans will not be impressed

Not saying I agree with the AFLX focus but....

Increased world TV rights. Licence fees if it takes off in a country. Potential to uncover international AFLX talent that can translate to trial AFL as an international rookie. 

I would prefer they create AFLX and fiddle with rules for an international version there than attempt to refine the pure game into a farce that may suit.

1 minute ago, big_red_fire_engine said:

Not saying I agree with the AFLX focus but....

Increased world TV rights. Licence fees if it takes off in a country. Potential to uncover international AFLX talent that can translate to trial AFL as an international rookie. 

I would prefer they create AFLX and fiddle with rules for an international version there than attempt to refine the pure game into a farce that may suit.

If AFLX takes off around the world, then i will happily say i was wrong. 

Maybe it will in 50 years. Who knows?

i don’t think it will. I would prefer the AFL spent money on existing clubs as i think many stadium deals are still very average. 

We wait and watch the outcome

9 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

I understand what you are saying Macca. 

But why do we need to promote the game worldwide? I have never understood this. It is an Australian game. If people want to see it they can come here during the season. Changing the game to suit other countries i disagree with strong. Our game is unique, which is it’s appeal. 

This AFLX is just cheap garbage for the broadcasters to sell some advertising space. 

Somebody will get injured and clubs and fans will not be impressed

BRFE answered your question well in the post above

I just don't see the harm Wyl ... we are never going to be able to sell the large oval version and the rectangular version still sees the players displaying the same skills without the congestion.

I tuned in last year to see congestion-free footy but the version didn't appeal to me.  But it may appeal to hundreds of thousands of others.  People in their millions attend large stadiums to watch people play video games so AFLX can work if that is the barometer

 

11 minutes ago, Macca said:

BRFE answered your question well in the post above

I just don't see the harm Wyl ... we are never going to be able to sell the large oval version and the rectangular version still sees the players displaying the same skills without the congestion.

I tuned in last year to see congestion-free footy but the version didn't appeal to me.  But it may appeal to hundreds of thousands of others.  People in their millions attend large stadiums to watch people play video games so AFLX can work if that is the barometer

 

But it’s not Australian Rules Football. It is a weird hybrid. 

The AFL wants to rule the world and will try anything. Personally i think it is a waste of time and money. 

Expats play AFL overseas and that is how it will stay. 

I don’t want to have senior players injured in a game that means nothing except to the AFL Heads and Commission ego’s

1 minute ago, Sir Why You Little said:

But it’s not Australian Rules Football. It is a weird hybrid. 

The AFL wants to rule the world and will try anything. Personally i think it is a waste of time and money. 

Expats play AFL overseas and that is how it will stay. 

I don’t want to have senior players injured in a game that means nothing except to the AFL Heads and Commission ego’s

You need to start thinking past your own point of view Wyl ... there will be numerous people who will enjoy watching AFLX and it's those people who matter,  not you.  Nor does my opinion matter either.  I have already stated that I don't care for AFLX nor am I inclined to watch it.

In fact,  you and I don't matter a toss and nor does that even matter.  Progress will happen so you need to start thinking from the minds of others as a first port of call.  As previously stated,  a number of millennials will take to AFLX and that's fine by me. 

Many of the same people who swore that they'd never watch t20 are now watching it in their droves.  Once again,  if you don't watch t20 who cares?  The large audience is already there and that's all that matters.  Not unexpected from my point of view either. 

 

I trademarked the name “iAFLX 2.0” before Gil got the chance. 

Edited December 16, 20186 yr by Ethan Tremblay

8 minutes ago, Macca said:

You need to start thinking past your own point of view Wyl ... there will be numerous people who will enjoy watching AFLX and it's those people who matter,  not you.  Nor does my opinion matter either.  I have already stated that I don't care for AFLX nor am I inclined to watch it.

In fact,  you and I don't matter a toss and nor does that even matter.  Progress will happen so you need to start thinking from the minds of others as a first port of call.  As previously stated,  a number of millennials will take to AFLX and that's fine by me. 

Many of the same people who swore that they'd never watch t20 are now watching it in their droves.  Once again,  if you don't watch t20 who cares?  The large audience is already there and that's all that matters.  Not unexpected from my point of view either. 

 

I have been too many countries Macca. My eyes are not closed. 

Are you insinuating  that Millenials don’t like the game of AFL? It runs for 3 hours about the same time as a T20 match. 

I just don’t like deconstructing a product that is already dam good. 

Just wait till an AFL star is injured for the year, playing this diluted hybrid. 

Kids still enjoy AFL. The overseas market will always be miniscule, why because they already have their own codes of Football. 

1 minute ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Are you insinuating  that Millenials don’t like the game of AFL?

No,  not at all. 

Hey,  why are we even arguing the point?  As I said,  you and I don't matter - the masses matter and that's all that does matter.  AFLX will be put out there and it may or may not gain a large audience. 

I made the bold prediction over a decade ago that t20 will eventually rule and that has happened already ... progress is progress and you can't legislate of what people can 'like' or not like.  Wishing it all away is the sort of thinking reserved for dinosaurs. And that ain't me.

What are you going to say if AFLX does gain a large audience?  Stick to your guns?  By the way,  I don't care for AFLX but again,  who cares? 

 

3 minutes ago, Macca said:

No,  not at all. 

Hey,  why are we even arguing the point?  As I said,  you and I don't matter - the masses matter and that's all that does matter.  AFLX will be put out there and it may or may not gain a large audience. 

I made the bold prediction over a decade ago that t20 will eventually rule and that has happened already ... progress is progress and you can't legislate of what people can 'like' or not like.  Wishing it all away is the sort of thinking reserved for dinosaurs. And that ain't me.

What are you going to say if AFLX does gain a large audience?  Stick to your guns?  By the way,  I don't care for AFLX but again,  who cares? 

I will be very sad if AFLX becomes the main game in future, when i think the game we have now is a great spectacle as it is. 

I am well aware that my opinion as a 55 year old means little, but i do buy memberships every year, so i can voice an opinion. This new AFLX version is using teams that don’t even exist!! Why?

It will prove nothing except be dangerous for players and let Broadcasters sell advertising. 

If our game was a 5 hour game, i would see a point to it, but it isn’t. 

We already have a fantastic product

2 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

I will be very sad if AFLX becomes the main game in future, when i think the game we have now is a great spectacle as it is. 

I am well aware that my opinion as a 55 year old means little, but i do buy memberships every year, so i can voice an opinion. This new AFLX version is using teams that don’t even exist!! Why?

It will prove nothing except be dangerous for players and let Broadcasters sell advertising. 

If our game was a 5 hour game, i would see a point to it, but it isn’t. 

We already have a fantastic product

 

If AFLX takes off,  it takes off.  I don't believe it will here in OZ but it might.  More importantly,  the hybrid version  could gain an overseas audience long term.  And that is what the AFL is aiming at by the looks of it. 

A new audience that may not have any idea that AFL even exists.  We may think AFLX is 'Mickey-Mouse' but an overseas audience may not know any better.  

The game could only really be played on rectangular stadiums overseas so the hybrid version has to be adapted that way ... so,  if that's the aim,  where's the harm?  Why the grief?  What are you worried about?  The sky isn't about to fall. 

 

9 minutes ago, Macca said:

  where's the harm?  Why the grief?  What are you worried about?  The sky isn't about to fall. 

 

I have mentioned it many times. 

Injuries to top line players.

Let’s just imagine if 2 MFC players go down playing this years AFLX Tournament for teams that are meaningless. 

Where’s the harm in that Macca?

I want September football. Senior AFL Players should not be playing AFLX.