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2 minutes ago, johndemonic said:

Do we know clearly what the Steven May situation is with Gold Coast if we don't sign him this year? Are the rumours true about him touring Bulldog facilities? Is staying for one year untenable for him personally, is he willing to wait a year to become a demon?

A Hogan committed for 5 years, and a Steven May committed from 2020-2024 is the best situation here, so maybe the club should just put that target in their sights and make it happen over the next 12 months.

The problem getting May without a Hogan trade is as much salary cap as it is what we can trade. JH is on $900k next season, on top of that we have a very young exciting list that we will need to manage carefully  to keep together in years to come.

Make no mistake teams are looking to raid our talent.  I am aware of a massive offer from NM to Oliver (who has some vague connection to them) that Oliver refused. This one never made the media.

These offers will only increase. Our stars are all young.

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Posted
4 hours ago, skills32 said:

No I explained why Freo Traded pick 6

Fair enough. Point taken.

Posted
21 minutes ago, Grand New Flag said:

I dont know the answer to this.  Maybe this is nothing more than media speculation. After all the club has never said anything except two early first round.  Maybe 5 and 23 with pick swaps was their absolute position. Think your probably jumping a shadows here. I don’t know and don’t think it means anything.

I think he was referring to this quote from Mahoney the other day:

“If you stack up a 23-year-old key forward and everything he’s done over his career stacks up against everyone so we think he’s right up with the highest anyone’s been traded for and we think Fremantle might have that opportunity with picks they may gain,” 

Surely 5 + next years first is closer to a fair trade than 5 + 23 - if he ends up being traded.

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The charter of a footy club is to win a flag.

make no mistake , I am a huge Hogan fan, I want him to stay long term.

however, we are dealing with professional footballers who are invested when they rolls the balls out.

if we have retain Hogan for a year, win the flag and he goes so be it.

but who ever we get whether it be May or picks will not see us closer to a flag.

 

Posted (edited)
11 minutes ago, Grand New Flag said:

The problem getting May without a Hogan trade is as much salary cap as it is what we can trade. JH is on $900k next season, on top of that we have a very young exciting list that we will need to manage carefully  to keep together in years to come.

Make no mistake teams are looking to raid our talent.  I am aware of a massive offer from NM to Oliver (who has some vague connection to them) that Oliver refused. This one never made the media.

These offers will only increase. Our stars are all young.

If Hogan commits for 5+ years, and another player doesn't. We're still in the same position as we are now, only we're probably more likely to get high draft picks that we can use to set us up with a gun for the 5-10 years after this window, or to immediately fill the gap left by the player through trade or FA

Maybe the lofty goal of all players buying in and taking paycuts like other clubs, is an attainable goal too? Josh Kelly and Dustin Martin aren't wearing blue and white next year. (And neither is Tom Lynch)

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Posted
8 minutes ago, rpfc said:

Truth of what?

We do not want to go into 2019 with Hogan at the club, to think that we are ecstatic with him staying another year is nonsense.

I want value but you know what I want more - a settled team looking to win the flag.

Who is we. Do you mean we as a club or you and me.

If the latter, where did I give you permission to make up stuff about what I am thinking.

Anyway who are you?

If I had to choose between the posts of you and GNF, I know which I would believe and I am sorry but it wouldn't be yours.

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Just now, skills32 said:

Who is we. Do you mean we as a club or you and me.

If the latter, where did I give you permission to make up stuff about what I am thinking.

Anyway who are you?

If I had to choose between the posts of you and GNF, I know which I would believe and I am sorry but it wouldn't be yours.

The club is actively trying to move on from a player and all the soothing from posters ‘in the know’ won’t change that.

If the MFC has its way, Hogan is in purple inside of three business days.

 

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Dees get May, KK & Ed Langdon.

Suns get Pick 5 (Freo) & Pick 54 (Melb) 

Dockers get Hogan & 44 (Bris)

Lions get Neale

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5 minutes ago, Dee tention said:

Dees get May, KK & Ed Langdon.

Suns get Pick 5 (Freo) & Pick 54 (Melb) 

Dockers get Hogan & 44 (Bris)

Lions get Neale

With all due respect, have you been asleep for a week? The dockers value Hogan at pick 11 + 23, not 5 and Ed Langdon. Mental health rumour spreading suggests they're not going to cave.

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Posted
2 hours ago, Dodos Demons said:

If he goes to a club that is less successful and with relatively poor prospect  = less pressure = less expectation = less stress = more time for outside activitivies (surf, social life, music scene etc) but all for similar money. If he is not the footy beast/animal like a Viney, Gawn etc it may suit him perfectly to be in such an environment. He can then “cruise” through the season for a fat pay cheque. 

 

2 hours ago, Graeme Yeats' Mullet said:

Likely a lot more money as there is less competition for the Freo salary cap space

Failmantle have some very strange ideas on sharing the money love. They signed Bennell on a 3 year $650k pa contract and kept Lachie Neale on $450k pa. There is every chance that Bennell will be gone soon (or at the very least get a new low $ contract) and if LN goes as well, that is a lot of money in the kitty. As well as any retirements, delistings and current underspend.

So you are right. Lots of salary cap space in the land of purple muppets.

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5 minutes ago, Dee tention said:

Dees get May, KK & Ed Langdon.

Suns get Pick 5 (Freo) & Pick 54 (Melb) 

Dockers get Hogan & 44 (Bris)

Lions get Neale

We give up Hogan and pick 54.

We receive May, Kolodjashnij, and Langdon?

 

Hmmm, sweet deal for us.

 

Posted
9 hours ago, rpfc said:

The club is actively trying to move on from a player and all the soothing from posters ‘in the know’ won’t change that.

If the MFC has its way, Hogan is in purple inside of three business days.

 

Mate, no disrespect but that is nothing more than your speculation.  It is simply not true.  Without wanting to sound like a [censored] that is the best assurance I can give.  But I promise you are wrong.

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Posted
6 hours ago, ProDee said:

Disagree.

I should clarify.  We're better with both May and Hogan in the team and Weideman at Casey.  But as that's not an option I really do think we're structurally far better off with May at FB.

I see a flag with May at FB and I can't with Oscar, Frost, and Lever as the key tall defenders.  I accept others disagree.

How about with Hogan at FB CHB?

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And your source of info is?

You may well be correct but if you are it will be Jessie's decision alone. MFC will have no input.

You make dogmatic statements but won't answer my questions.

Strange.

If you want others to believe you you should name your source

Posted
Just now, Grand New Flag said:

How about Tom going back when required. 

Terrible idea. He's a turn over merchant in the back half and ordinary one on one.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, A F said:

Terrible idea. He's a turn over merchant in the back half and ordinary one on one.

Not to mention a star key forward and just about the best mark in the game.

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Just now, Petraccattack said:

Not to mention a star key forward and just about the best mark in the game.

Paradoxically, he's really good in contested situations in the forward half.

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Ahh, here we go. The poster who knows eff all during the year, then at trade time, suddenly knows every intimate detail that gets discussed in the FD, right at the moment that you could probably just assemble all the rumours and take a wild stab and get to the same conclusion. Add a dash of “trust me, this is rock solid” and there you have it. 

The only surprising thing is that it’s taken over 300 pages of this thread for him to turn up.

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Posted
50 minutes ago, rpfc said:

I want value but you know what I want more - a settled team looking to win the flag.

Agreed rpfc. If Hogan stays, 2019 will be a circus for an entire year on his contract situation. Given we are clearly in a situation now where we have bigger aims to worry about, it would be a huge distraction that we most definitely could do without.

If he stays, i'd want him to sign a contract extension sometime in the off-season (preferably before the new year).

Posted
16 minutes ago, johndemonic said:

With all due respect, have you been asleep for a week? The dockers value Hogan at pick 11 + 23, not 5 and Ed Langdon. Mental health rumour spreading suggests they're not going to cave.

Yep! I just woke up! 

The ball isn’t in Freo’s or little man Peter Bells court! I don’t care what Freo value because it stinks and the rest of the competition agree... 

Pick 5 is the foundation to move forward...  If not Jesse stays! I would be asking for Langdon and if I were the Dees I would be in his ear to leave. His brother doesn’t even want to go there! Or Tim Kelly. Freo are on the nose...

Freo want Pick 5 and more from Brisbane... But want too give nothing for Jesse. Please...! Freo need to get off the grass.

The Dees are the seller and have control. If the Dockers don’t want to buy at the asking price we’ll so be it. 

Sounds as though you would touch your toes for Pick 11 & 23...! 

 

 

 

Posted
6 minutes ago, Nasher said:

Ahh, here we go. The poster who knows eff all during the year, then at trade time, suddenly knows every intimate detail that gets discussed in the FD

Bring back Chilli Boy

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Posted (edited)
19 minutes ago, Grand New Flag said:

How about Tom going back when required. 

Stupidity confirmation.

The only time TMac might be in the back 50 is in the last 2 minutes of quarters when we're  trying to stop opposition scoring.

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10 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

Agreed rpfc. If Hogan stays, 2019 will be a circus for an entire year on his contract situation. Given we are clearly in a situation now where we have bigger aims to worry about, it would be a huge distraction that we most definitely could do without.

If he stays, i'd want him to sign a contract extension sometime in the off-season (preferably before the new year).

2016 - circus with Dustin Martin

2017 - circus with Andrew Gaff

2018 - circus with Jesse Hogan

I like where this is going.....

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