Farewell Jesse Hogan

[hells bells 2,023]

We were never going to get 5 & 6 for Hogan.  We might now get 5 & 11.  11 To be on traded for May.  

5 we can take to the draft or deal with Adelaide for 13 and 21 or similar. 

[John Demonic 5,870]

8 minutes ago, jackaub said:

Who are Port after?

 

They're after back to back trade week premierships

[Redleg 41,758]

1 minute ago, red and blue forever said:

So now, how about...

Neale to brisbane for 5

hogan to Freo for 5, 11

Kent to saints for pick 39

Tyson, 11, + 39 - for May and KK

Tyson has knocked back GC. Would need him to change his mind.

If Tyson agreed,  it would be more likely to be Tyson and 11 for May and KK and 39 to Roos for Preuss.

[Jibroni 5,035]

Would Gold Coast accept 11 and 30 something for May when they can get more next year?

I think Pick 5 may have to be used.

 

 

 

[Demonland 73,266]

Just now, hells bells said:

We were never going to get 5 & 6 for Hogan.  We might now get 5 & 11.  11 To be on traded for May.  

5 we can take to the draft or deal with Adelaide for 13 and 21 or similar. 

I'm not so confident we get May for 11. I think they'll ask for 5. I pray we don't blink first.

[The Chazz 4,077]

12 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Hoping GC happy to do May for  11 then, plus maybe a sweetener to GC, so they can move on.

That would leave us with 5 which would be great.

Great outcome.  I'm sure I've heard someone else mention something similar...

1 hour ago, The Chazz said:

I'm with you Mauriesy.  As it stands, we don't have a first round pick in this year's draft.  We also need a quality, solid key defender, a back up ruck and some speed on the outside.  If we can manage to get all of those things, as well as maintaining a position in the 2nd, 3rd and 4th rounds this year, and all we've lost is Hogan, Tyson and Kent, then it's big ticks from me.

Oh wait, there it is...

[Tough Kent 2,137]

This deal sets Freo up for Hogan deal with Melbourne (pick 11 and the pick 5 they're expected to get from Brisbane for Lachie Neale) and Rory Lobb (23). It sets Port up to snare an SA young gun in draft. Win, win 

Nick Bowen added,

Nick Bowen - AFL House

[red and blue forever 1,059]

OK, so no to the Tyson part of the deal.

 

How about

 

So now, how about...

Neale to brisbane for 5

hogan to Freo for 5, 11

Kent to saints for pick 39

Kelity, 11, + 39 - for May and KK

or

11, 36 and 39 for May and KK

 

?? should get it done...

[What 18,810]

Just now, Tough Kent said:

This deal sets Freo up for Hogan deal with Melbourne (pick 11 and the pick 5 they're expected to get from Brisbane for Lachie Neale) and Rory Lobb (23). It sets Port up to snare an SA young gun in draft. Win, win 

Nick Bowen added,

Nick Bowen - AFL House

As long as we dont use pick 5 or 11 on May,  that would be a nice return.

[whatwhat say what 23,109]

so presumably now:
neale goes to bears
5, may and kk go to melbourne for hogan
10 and future 2nd from melbourne goes to gc17
11 goes to gw$ for lobb
and freo get hogan and lobb?

[Ouch! 2,268]

15 minutes ago, jackaub said:

Who are Port after?

 

They might now be looking to push 6 and 10 to the GC to get either pick 2 or 3.

I also wonder if we secure pick 5, whether we will be looking to trade to Adelaide/Port  for some slightly later picks... or players. 

Edited October 11, 2018 by Ouch!

[Demonland 73,266]

Do Fremantle even have the half sleeve jumpers to make a play for Lobb?

[John Demonic 5,870]

7 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Tyson has knocked back GC. Would need him to change his mind.

If Tyson agreed,  it would be more likely to be Tyson and 11 for May and KK and 39 to Roos for Preuss.

How about Sam Frost and a pick in the 30's with 11? I'm not sure i'd take that as a GC fan. They'd probably only take 5 as they can't be bothered asking for more to bring it to that pick 3 comparable trade that they'd get next year. Pick 11 couldn't possibly be on their agenda without A LOT of sweetness.

Edited October 11, 2018 by johndemonic

[The Chazz 4,077]

3 minutes ago, Demonland said:

I'm not so confident we get May for 11. I think they'll ask for 5. I pray we don't blink first.

What about Pick 11, and MFC 2019 First Round Pick, for May, KK and Pick 19?

[Redleg 41,758]

4 minutes ago, The Chazz said:

Great outcome.  I'm sure I've heard someone else mention something similar...

Oh wait, there it is...

2 hours ago, Redleg said:

TBH IF he is going to be traded and considering we want May, I don't really care anymore what the deal is, as long as we are left with pick 5.

If GC are happy to take the rest of what we get, whatever it is and we can wrap KK into the deal somehow, or do it separately for an acceptable pick, then I would be happy.

I think it is really about what we are left with after getting May. If it is pick 5 then fantastic, as that is a very good player, or the opener for more deals.  

 

No there it is.

[Wiseblood 24,637]

Just now, Petraccattack said:

As long as we dont use pick 5 or 11 on May,  that would be a nice return.

We'll have to use one of those picks.  Pick 11 would be preferable.  The Suns have made it clear they want a good return for May.  Pick 11 and then a mixture of other picks will get it done.  Take 5 to the draft to get a gun.

[Richard Tionary 145]

 

1 minute ago, Petraccattack said:

As long as we dont use pick 5 or 11 on May,  that would be a nice return.

C'mon Petracc, most likely we will have to use 5, if we could use 11 that would be a massive win for us.

Edited October 11, 2018 by Richard Tionary

[Perago Validus 164]

1 minute ago, red and blue forever said:

OK, so no to the Tyson part of the deal.

 

How about

 

So now, how about...

Neale to brisbane for 5

hogan to Freo for 5, 11

Kent to saints for pick 39

Kelity, 11, + 39 - for May and KK

or

11, 36 and 39 for May and KK

 

?? should get it done...

Pick 39 from saints is for Hannebery, Kent will be for a pick 50+

Gold Coast will demand Pick 5, if May leaves next year as a FA they'll get a first round compo which would be pick 2 if they finish last.

Pick 5 is fair for May and KK.

[The Chazz 4,077]

Just now, Redleg said:

2 hours ago, Redleg said:

TBH IF he is going to be traded and considering we want May, I don't really care anymore what the deal is, as long as we are left with pick 5.

If GC are happy to take the rest of what we get, whatever it is and we can wrap KK into the deal somehow, or do it separately for an acceptable pick, then I would be happy.

I think it is really about what we are left with after getting May. If it is pick 5 then fantastic, as that is a very good player, or the opener for more deals.  

 

No there it is.

Which is basically the same as what @mauriesy said, which you challenged, then started talking about cars.  Ok.

[demon191919 60]

I really can't imagine GC accepting pick 11 for May - do people really see this happening? 

Considering they would almost certainly get a pick between 1-5 as compo next year.. Hope I'm wrong, though! 

[deeboy 40]

Tyson won't be part of the May deal 

Hogan going for 5 and 11.

Giving pick 5 to GC for May plus a late pick.

If that is how it plays out, a terrible job by us.

[Ted Lasso 19,549]

Pick 11 33 and 2019 first rounder for may and Kolo?

so effectively it’s 11, 16-18 and 33 

 

its possibly overs but if we bring in May and keep 5 I am okay with that 

[Redleg 41,758]

2 minutes ago, johndemonic said:

How about Sam Frost and a pick in the 30's with 11? I'm not sure i'd take that as a GC fan. They'd probably only take 5 as they can't be bothered asking for more to bring it to that pick 3 comparable trade.

They won't get the pick 3 comparable if they go up the ladder a few spots and it could be 7 or 8 at best.

Therefore 11 is not that far away and they are pretty desperate to put this to bed this trade period and not have the disruption next year.

I would not lose Sam Frost and that is way overs anyway.

11 is possibly unders so maybe we sweeten the deal with a later pick.

[John Demonic 5,870]

Tuned in to the trade radio to see what they were saying the picks just to kill some boredom, and they're debating gary rohan being top 8 in geelong or not. FMD

Edited October 11, 2018 by johndemonic

[whatwhat say what 23,109]

if we give up pick 5 as part of the may deal i will be ropeable unless we get something SIGNIFICANT back

i know it's just my mfcss speaking, but i feel like we are about to be absolutely bent over and pillaged