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Farewell Jesse Hogan

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Just now, Stretch Johnson said:

Sadly the other reality is that we aren't in a strong position when only one year out from him being an RFA.

Yes he is contracted, but if freo are confident of getting him next season they wait a year and get him for nothing.  We get better value now, but we won't get two first rounders. 

 

Plus he has a nasty foot injury. We know how those go. 

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    1 minute ago, Jibroni said:

    Rick Ashley, Gold WB.

    Maybe post of the year!

    Agree! Been a very long time since I’ve been Rick Rolled! 

    A classic!

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    1 minute ago, Stretch Johnson said:

    Sadly the other reality is that we aren't in a strong position when only one year out from him being an RFA.

    Yes he is contracted, but if freo are confident of getting him next season they wait a year and get him for nothing.  We get better value now, but we won't get two first rounders. 

     

    Would Freo risk it?  A lot can happen in a season, plus being a restricted free agent means they might feel as though they need to offer more to ensure we don't match.  I don't think we would do that, but it might make Freo a little nervous.

    The likely scenario for me is that we get a first rounder and a player for him.  Is that good enough?  Time will tell.  Many were unhappy with the Melksham deal, as well as what we got for Watts, and look how they panned out.

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    4 minutes ago, Stretch Johnson said:

    We get better value now, but we won't get two first rounders. 

    I can't seem to find the details anywhere... but what was Lever when he came to us? Contracted? For a year or two more?

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    1 minute ago, Wiseblood said:

    Would Freo risk it?  A lot can happen in a season, plus being a restricted free agent means they might feel as though they need to offer more to ensure we don't match.  I don't think we would do that, but it might make Freo a little nervous.

    The likely scenario for me is that we get a first rounder and a player for him.  Is that good enough?  Time will tell.  Many were unhappy with the Melksham deal, as well as what we got for Watts, and look how they panned out.

    I don't see any player from Freo incoming. I'd like Ed Langdon, but again it doesn't seem likely. I think logic would prevail and we get two first rounders and one of those goes to the suns for May

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    Just now, Dappa Dan said:

    I can't seem to find the details anywhere... but what was Lever when he came to us? Contracted? For a year or two more?

    He was uncontracted from memory.

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    51 minutes ago, Bring Back Barassi said:

    Yes, it panned out that way, but we could have extracted more at the time if we played hardball

    No we didn’t.  Jack is not that good at AFL Level. 

    We did ? ok

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    Just now, Wiseblood said:

    He was uncontracted from memory.

    Bloody hell. So we have Jesse contracted for another season, which is a better position, and we're still not going to get two firsts?

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    Just now, MurDoc516 said:

    I don't see any player from Freo incoming. I'd like Ed Langdon, but again it doesn't seem likely. I think logic would prevail and we get two first rounders and one of those goes to the suns for May

    Would they do Picks 4 and 6, or would they balk at that as being too much?  I could see us getting the better of this years picks plus a first rounder from next year doing the trick, and with Neale potentially leaving, that pick may end up in the single digits as well.

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    Freo fans are talking pick 5 and future first for Hogan which seems fair value.

    I would trade the future first for May with a swap of their 2nd and our third rounder this year.

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    Just now, Wiseblood said:

    Would Freo risk it?

    We don't know, but its likely that there have been a lot of work done already.

    It is possible and proabaly likely that the numbers have been done and it has been agreed that  Hogan is either going there this season, or he plays out his contract and he goes next year.

    Both clubs, Hogan and his manager will know.

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    Just now, Dappa Dan said:

    Bloody hell. So we have Jesse contracted for another season, which is a better position, and we're still not going to get two firsts?

    Who says we won't?  I don't believe for a second that we won't get two first rounders (maybe one this year then next year) or at least a first rounder and a player equivalent to a first round pick.  I don't think we need to get too worried about that stuff just yet. Can you really see the club not getting much for him?

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    Just now, Wiseblood said:

    Would they do Picks 4 and 6, or would they balk at that as being too much?  I could see us getting the better of this years picks plus a first rounder from next year doing the trick, and with Neale potentially leaving, that pick may end up in the single digits as well.

    Depends what we ask for. If i'm melbourne im asking for 4 and 6 because he's contracted, will score 45+ (something Freo hasn't had since Pav) and 23. 

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    Just now, Stretch Johnson said:

    We don't know, but its likely that there have been a lot of work done already.

    I have a sneaking suspicion the last time he signed, he agreed behind closed doors to extend two years until the new CBA was done, with a view to leave then to maximise his value.

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    42 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

    Can Cerra still be traded even though he just signed a new deal very recently?  I'm assuming he can.

    didnt they bring a rule to cover this, I am pretty sure they can as long as the player agrees 

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    1 minute ago, Jibroni said:

    Freo fans are talking pick 5 and future first for Hogan which seems fair value

     

    Future first round would interest us if we are in for Kelly.

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    2 minutes ago, Jibroni said:

    Freo fans are talking pick 5 and future first for Hogan which seems fair value

     

    We cannot on trade that future pick this season tho can we? My understand is that because we traded a future pick last trade period, we are excluded

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    Just now, Leoncelli_36 said:

    We cannot on trade that future pick this season tho can we? My understand is that because we traded a future pick last trade period, we are excluded

    mate it's the AFL. You can do anything if you ask nicely. Geelong, Hawks and Swans have been abusing this loophole for years. source Fox Footy podcast. They continue to laugh at it.

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    Interesting quote from the AFL article:

    It's understood Hogan had his exit interview with the Demons on Monday, when the possibility of a trade was not broached.

    What has changed since Monday?  If he wanted out, why wouldn't you discuss it then?

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    9 minutes ago, Dappa Dan said:

    I can't seem to find the details anywhere... but what was Lever when he came to us? Contracted? For a year or two more?

    Uncontracted.

    The other issue is that there is more competition for Lever's services in Melbourne than for Hogan's in WA.

    I think we will do ok out of it.

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    7 minutes ago, Dappa Dan said:

    Bloody hell. So we have Jesse contracted for another season, which is a better position, and we're still not going to get two firsts?

    People need to stop comparing other trades.  If Freo had pick 12 only, then they would offer that and next years  first rounder but you are not going to get pick 5 and another first rounder. 

    Shattered to lose him but he is not worth 2 picks under 5

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