Resting Gawn disrespects freo and also under appreciates Max's apparent fitness. We can't afford to lose this in some faint hope it'll be ok and we need him the next week. Lose this without max and a fit max against dogs is immaterial

play max and rest him on the ground or bench. CHF, FF, back - wherever he can use his go go gadget arms to take marks which some of his team mates seem incapable of doing which is bizarre as marking should be a core funky focus for a footballer 

Edited July 2, 20186 yr by timbo

  On 02/07/2018 at 17:45, M_9 said:

With no racist intent implied, do DL'ers feel that Jeffy may lift in front of, what I would think, would be a predominantly indigenous crowd? 

Having said that, I seem to remember JKH having a 'mare last year or 2016.

With no left-wing targeting intended, your assessment is fundamentally wrong on a number of levels. The 'indigenous' (including a number of my family-members up North) don't just support indigenous players from any old club. They support their teams, like any supporters, and then perhaps give extra backing to indigenous players within those teams. The MFC is not well supported in Darwin, and the indigenous are also discriminated against in most economic areas - hence not also predominating the attendance at a costly AFL match.   

Edited July 2, 20186 yr by Skuit

  On 02/07/2018 at 20:11, Skuit said:

With no left-wing targeting intended, your assessment is fundamentally wrong on a number of levels. The 'indigenous' (including a number of my family-members up North) don't just support indigenous players from any old club. They support their teams, like any supporters, and then perhaps give extra backing to indigenous players within those teams. The MFC is not well supported in Darwin.   

I don't think it's a Left or Right thing (I might be wrong), it's a common way of thjnking and framing even if you've had training for cultural propriety. (No offence to OP intended at all). Just saying

  On 02/07/2018 at 20:19, timbo said:

I don't think it's a Left or Right thing (I might be wrong), it's a common way of thjnking and framing even if you've had training for cultural propriety. (No offence to OP intended at all). Just saying

I have no idea what you're intending to convey timbo. 

  On 02/07/2018 at 20:22, Skuit said:

I have no idea what you're intending to convey timbo. 

Meh, fuggeddaboutit

  On 02/07/2018 at 20:24, timbo said:

Meh, fuggeddaboutit

Exactly. I'm a huge Petracca fan because I really like pasta. 

  On 02/07/2018 at 20:28, Skuit said:

Exactly. I'm a huge Petracca fan because I really like pasta. 

Ermagerd! Me too!!

  On 02/07/2018 at 20:38, timbo said:

Ermagerd! Me too!!

Ironically one of my favourite Italian dishes is leek pappardelle, you know, like our leeky, sieve-like defense ahahaha. 

Edited July 2, 20186 yr by Skuit

  On 02/07/2018 at 14:54, Drunkn167 said:

Dec played on Cox a couple of years ago and dominated him (but that was before Cox was good) He definitely has been able to play well on the taller players. 

Im trying to stay out of all the talks of him being a possible inclusion because we think it’s a real possibility and I’m just hoping he gets the gig. My excitement is already building, I’m trying to keep a lid on it so I don’t get disappointed if they don’t play him but he really deserves a shot and I think is the clubs best choice to fill the Lever void right now.

Has he been in and out of the team recently with illness?

Jetta  Omac   Smith

Hibb   Frost  Vince

Harmes Oliver Fritch

Hannan Hogan  ANB

Melk   TMac  Kent/Garlett

Gawn   Jones  Viney

Spargo, Trac, Salem, Brayshaw

Weid - 3 tall forwards isn't holding up. Let Tom and Hoges be a genuine 1-2 punch. We had Tom, Hogan, Weid, Fritch, Hannan and Melksham all shoved in to the same forward line, they are all aerialists needed someone at their feet, Spargo in

Petty - Not ready, needs another 12 months+ at VFL to develop before we judge him. Frost is the only other senior option we have... We keep trying to fill Lever with inexperienced players like Smith and Petty and now people suggest keilty but maybe it is worth considering Oscar? I know long term they want him as the one on one defender with Lever floating but maybe Frost can do that this year and free up oscar to play the Lever role. 

Lewis - we need one of the senior heads in the side, he either survives or Vince returns, simple as that. Even if we wanted to drop both, with Hunt injured then we have no other option. Maybe Wagner but I don't expect that to go down to well

Tyson - Good inside mid, not good enough to take the spot of viney, jones brayshaw or oliver (or salem for that matter) so he doesnt play. Fritch was great on the wing but has struggled since tyson took his role. Tyson isnt skilled enough to do it. Fritch goes back to the wing and Kent/Garlett in. Kent only had the 1 run after injury but Garlett hasnt exactly earned it... Lose, lose pick for Goody but we need to do something different

Smith, Trac, ANB & Hannan lucky, no better options available. Although Bugg could push for one of the pressure forward spots...

For what it's worth... I don't really expect this to happen but it's what I'd do, change the structures they have failed 3 weeks in a row, and they don't hold up on the G. 

  On 02/07/2018 at 20:58, SFebey said:

Has he been in and out of the team recently with illness?

He was 2 weeks ago with a head cold but he’s all good now

B. Hibberd Pedersen Jetta

HB. Keilty Frost Vince

C. Lewis Jones Brayshaw

HF. Petracca Hogan Fritsch

F. Garlett T.McDonald Harmes

Foll. Gawn Oliver Viney

Res. Salem Baker Stretch Melksham

Outs: Petty, Tyson, Hannan and Weideman

Ins: Frost, Stretch, Garlett and Spago

Petty is simply not ready, Frost has to come in to prove himself for what could be the last time. His chance and time should be now.

We need smalls and pace in the forward line - Garlett & Spago. Don't be fooled by Garletts lack of interest playing 2s, we KNOW the quality of player he is and we desperately need that right now.

Fritsch and Stretch on the wings.

Another option could be to play T Mac back. He has been a revolution up forward but we are desperately needing experience and leadership down back. We are ranked 3rd last for how easily goals are conceded when opponents go forward. We may need to bite the bullet, send him back, play Hogan deep forward with Weidemen to then stay forward.

  On 02/07/2018 at 03:25, praha said:

In:

Frost 

Garlett

Vince

 

Out:

Hannan

Tyson 

Petty

 

It's really, really simple. Would also consider dumping ANB for Spargo.

 

Yep Spargo works his arse off and agree totally on your other 3 ins

Colleagues who are not dees supporters at work are  mystified at the Frost exclusion

It appears to be that the selections are either dumb or stubborn  I hope it's not both as that is the worst possible case.

 

 

 

 

  On 02/07/2018 at 13:13, Rusty Nails said:

T-Mac easily in our top 5 players for the season and averaging 3.2 goals a game vs Hogan 2.4.  I'm wondering with his ability to roam, play a role through the mid field and take the odd contested mark, why not move Hogan to CHB?  Might freshen him up and get him back to hitting in hard at the marking contests again also.  And he seems to prefer playing from behind like a defender.  T-Mac remains at FF crashing packs and a very accurate kick.

Problem is, who fills the CHF role?  Weids, Bull and Pedders so far not up to holding down a key position.

Yes, valid suggestion. Could be worth a try to see if Hogan can fill that role. I was suggesting TMac as the goal from here should be get together enough wins to scrape into finals

Wow suggestions for Hogan to move back. I really don't think we're that desperate yet. I thought Hogan flew for the ball well on the weekend. Kicking to him was very average. Whats this Rusy Nails mentions about Hogan prefering to play behind like a defender? I thought the problem highlighted was that he was playing too much in front watching the ball go overhead and crumbing instead of flying for it...... So confused by some posts on here.

Hogan worked his way into the game in the last half/quarter on the weekend. The opposition know to load extra players behind the ball and always have two flying against him when he goes for contested marks. This is why he needs to continue presenting up the ground and making oppositions defense switch or change there structures meaning he can drift back forward for clearer space to lead into. Jesse will be fine if we can get our forward structure right.

 

Anyone for Kent back in after one VFL game? 

Our form turned around at the start of the season when Spargo came into the side. Goodwin and Co just have to get the balance of this side right soon, otherwise we are looking at another wasted season.

In: Spargo, Garlett, Frost

Out: Weid, Petty, Tyson

B:       Jetta            O Mac         Hibberd

HB:    Salem          Frost           Lewis

C :     Fritsch         Viney            Brayshaw

HF:    Petracca      Hogan          Spargo

F:      Melksham     TMac           Garlett

R:      Gawn            Oliver            Jones

Int:   ANB    Harmes      J Smith     Hannan

We need Spargo, Garlett, Melksham and ANB to continuously harass and tackle in the forward half. We need only one of Hogan, TMac & Hannan flying and bringing the ball to ground, the rest need to be ready for the crumb or lock it in.

Most of all we need the whole side to get the work-rate back to where it was when we smashed sides, as this was the reason behind those wins.

  On 03/07/2018 at 00:23, Is Dom Is Good said:

Our form turned around at the start of the season when Spargo came into the side. Goodwin and Co just have to get the balance of this side right soon, otherwise we are looking at another wasted season.

In: Spargo, Garlett, Frost

Out: Weid, Petty, Tyson

B:       Jetta            O Mac         Hibberd

HB:    Salem          Frost           Lewis

C :     Fritsch         Viney            Brayshaw

HF:    Petracca      Hogan          Spargo

F:      Melksham     TMac           Garlett

R:      Gawn            Oliver            Jones

Int:   ANB    Harmes      J Smith     Hannan

We need Spargo, Garlett, Melksham and ANB to continuously harass and tackle in the forward half. We need only one of Hogan, TMac & Hannan flying and bringing the ball to ground, the rest need to be ready for the crumb or lock it in.

Most of all we need the whole side to get the work-rate back to where it was when we smashed sides, as this was the reason behind those wins.

That looks a much better and balanced side/spine. Hannan on thin ice also.

  On 03/07/2018 at 00:28, SFebey said:

That looks a much better and balanced side/spine. Hannan on thin ice also.

I like the above side although drop hannan for stretch and tyson in for J smith

in: Spargo, Garlett, Frost, Stretch

Out: Petty, Weid, Hannan, J.Smith

 

only concern is 2nd ruck maybe frosty , Tmac  to pinch hit, I remember trac had a go last year in the north .

I am really concrened about Gawn blowing up in the NT and the effect for the rest of the year

 

Every single poster here is 100% right.  Everyone is calling for  team balance.

This includes a small crumber or two (Kent, Garlett, Spargo?) and a hard running mid to help with the spread from stoppages (Stretch?).

Nobody claims these players themselves are the answer or saviors , but that they will help get the balance right and give us what weve been lacking the last few weeks.  

So if the match committee can not see the obvious this Thursday night, that every supporter can see, and we end up losing to Freo....    it might be pitchfork time.

 

I fully enjoyed Hannan's 4 possession game and expect him to be retained accordingly, judging by our match committee selections this year.

  On 02/07/2018 at 20:00, timbo said:

Resting Gawn disrespects freo and also under appreciates Max's apparent fitness. We can't afford to lose this in some faint hope it'll be ok and we need him the next week. Lose this without max and a fit max against dogs is immaterial

play max and rest him on the ground or bench. CHF, FF, back - wherever he can use his go go gadget arms to take marks which some of his team mates seem incapable of doing which is bizarre as marking should be a core funky focus for a footballer 

It's not disrespect.

It's smarter to play for the advantage of having the extra players for run and for agility,,, and better ball handling in the greasy conditions.

Nothing to do with Max's fitness, but for a better result the following week with fresher players.

We should be able to win in Darwin, and be better without Max in those conditions.   We go in as a shorter side than normal, to suit.

We shouldn't go into this game with marks as a benchmark,,,, we should go into it with Run, Agility, and control of the ball as the benchmark.

 

We showed the past couple of weeks that we are down on our run.  As well as pace.  And its cost us. 

If ever there was a time to swing the axe now is that time!

This would be my team this week if I wanted to shake things up and get some speed back in the side!!

B. Lewis OMac Jetta

HB. Hibberd Frost Salem

C. Stretch Viney Jones

HF. Melksham Tmac Fritsch

F. Garlett Hogan Spargo

Foll. Gawn Oliver Brayshaw

Int Harmes Petracca Bugg Baker

 

OUT Petty Weid ANB Tyson J Smith Hannan

IN (SPEED) Frost Stretch Spargo Bugg Baker Garlett

 

  On 02/07/2018 at 11:39, titan_uranus said:

Genuine question: why?

How is he impacting games at the moment?

When was the last time he played well in a game we lost or didn't win by a massive margin?

I don’t rate him  either but he won’t get dropped