Changes v St Kilda

[samcantstandya 1,082]

  On 22/06/2018 at 14:44, DeeSpencer said:

FB: Hibberd  Oscar  Jetta
HB: Salem  Petty  Fritsch
C; Tyson  Oliver  Jones
HF: Spargo  Hogan   Melksham
FF: Petracca  Tommy Mc  Hannan
Foll: Gawn  Brayshaw  Viney
Int: J. Smith, Harmes,  T. Smith, ANB

Bye bye: Vince, Lewis
In: Petty, Spargo

Very open to dropping Harmes and Petracca but the forward/mid stocks are light on as it is and we have to redeploy Fritsch to half back to replace Lewis and bring in Spargo as is.

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I'd drop Harmes he kicks 2 the opposition even when we have man in the clear thus killing any forward thrust.

[Adzman 2,154]

The way I see it is that we have dropped two winnable games in a row, and a message needs to be sent to to the crew that it simply isn't good enough.

There are probably about 6 guys in the side that should be dropped after the past two weeks, but we don't have 6 to replace them.

The club needs to roll the dice and see what we have with a Petty or Baker. Could be an upgrade over Joel or Tim Smith. Garlett needs to come back in and it think we need to look and see if Balic is capable at AFL level.

[Red and Blue realist 2,063]

I'd bring in Weid for T.Smith, while he hasn't dominated a game yet Weid at least knows how to work with the other forwards and doesn't get in the way like Smith and peds have done. 

Also OMac needs another tall down back, I like J.Smith but asking him to be lever is wrong, I'd bring in Petty or Frost for Vince. Maybe Garlett for Hannan or ANB, but only if his energy is through the roof at Casey, he doesn't need a bag but needs to show he'll bring something great to the team

[GawnWithTheWind 604]

Ins: Garlett, Weid

Outs: Smith, Petracca

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FB: Jetta - Oscar - Hibberd

HB: Lewis - Smith - Salem

C : Fritsch - Jones - Tyson

HF: Melk - TMAC - Harmes

FF: Garlett - Hogan - Weid

R: Gawn - Viney - Oliver

I: Brayshaw - Hannan - ANB - Vince

[samcantstandya 1,082]

  On 22/06/2018 at 22:13, jumbo returns said:

In: Garlett

Out: Hannan

Too many chances for this bloke 

Tommy Mac, please be okay and available

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I like him but we can't carry him at the minute. He plays a cameo every now & again. But he let's us down when he misses so many set shots. We must select good kicks. I didn't like how ANB ignored the man in the clear for a shank of a kick when he missed the goal in the first half

[brendan 3,458]

Out: T.smith, Tyson 

in: Garlett/Spargo, weideman 

garlett/Spargo whoever plays the better game today 

Hannan stays for me still kicked 2.3 so getting opportunity 

[hank 23]

Height and pace. Two things we lack.

Out: Vince, ANB, T Smith, J Smith, Tyson.

In: Spargo, Petty, Frost, Baker, Stretch

Edited June 22, 2018 by hank
T Smith twice

[jumbo returns 6,745]

  On 22/06/2018 at 23:07, brendan said:

Out: T.smith, Tyson 

in: Garlett/Spargo, weideman 

garlett/Spargo whoever plays the better game today 

Hannan stays for me still kicked 2.3 so getting opportunity 

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Mitch H misses clutch goals

Even Lindsay Thomas kicked a pressure goal

Nothing personal, but too many cameo roles at the moment

Mind you, he's not alone in that aspect

[MurDoc516 1,529]

  On 22/06/2018 at 13:28, WERRIDEE said:

Petty and Baker must come in we are too slow and small down back. Garlett must also come in.

Forget about the 3 tall forwards and drop Tim.Smith, drop Joel as well and drop Petracca he's been disgraceful. Hogan hasn't been much better the last 2 weeks he must lift.

 

IN: Petty, Baker and Garlett

OUT: Tim.Smith, Joel.Smith and Petracca

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Joel Smith literally saved us from conceding 3 times tonight. He deserves another run.

[MurDoc516 1,529]

What the [censored] does everyone have against Lewis. He's good over head and probably in our top 5 kicks at the club. Everyone upset about his pace yet how many times does he get run down?

 

J. Smith is also a kid ffs. He had so many inspirational efforts against port tonight, being that last man in defence. Lever is a big miss, but it's not any one individuals fault in our defence that we look like [censored] now.

[dees189227 12,550]

  On 22/06/2018 at 13:23, the rolling fog said:

Does anyone on here read the news? Hunt is out for six weeks...

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Oh yeah forgot about that, bugger. My first thought last night was we need some pace off the backline. 

[bobby1554 1,276]

OMac could be missing due to his hit on Marshall. Shouldn’t be, but you know the AFL! Other changes depend on form at Casey today. Garlett needs to play a blinder as his previous VFL form has been average at best. If Spargo is better, I would bring him in, for Tyson or Harmes.  A good game from Weid and he comes in for Tim Smith. Stretch in the mix, again for Tyson or Harmes.

Goodwin was pleased with the “behaviours” of the team, so don’t think there will be too many changes 

 

[drdrake 3,203]

In Spargo, Garlett, Frost

Out ANB, Harmes, Vince

[samcantstandya 1,082]

  On 22/06/2018 at 22:43, Adzman said:

The way I see it is that we have dropped two winnable games in a row, and a message needs to be sent to to the crew that it simply isn't good enough.

There are probably about 6 guys in the side that should be dropped after the past two weeks, but we don't have 6 to replace them.

The club needs to roll the dice and see what we have with a Petty or Baker. Could be an upgrade over Joel or Tim Smith. Garlett needs to come back in and it think we need to look and see if Balic is capable at AFL level.

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My 6 on very very shaky ground would be Harmes, Hannan, ANB, Lewis,Vince & Smith (either).  Harmes because he can't finish, Hannah goes missing & can't convert from set shots? ANB because he just seems to run & has poor disposal, Lewis too slow, Vince too careless & both Smiths because of inexperience (I'd persist  with both Smiths, but I'd drop the other 5. But I know they wouldn't consider dropping Vince & Lewis. But the other 3 need 2 improve their games at Casey.

[Adzman 2,154]

  On 23/06/2018 at 00:41, samcantstandya said:

My 6 on very very shaky ground would be Harmes, Hannan, ANB, Lewis,Vince & Smith (either).  Harmes because he can't finish, Hannah goes missing & can't convert from set shots? ANB because he just seems to run & has poor disposal, Lewis too slow, Vince too careless & both Smiths because of inexperience (I'd persist  with both Smiths, but I'd drop the other 5. But I know they wouldn't consider dropping Vince & Lewis. But the other 3 need 2 improve their games at Casey.

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I think most would agree with you there.

[samcantstandya 1,082]

  On 22/06/2018 at 23:18, jumbo returns said:

Mitch H misses clutch goals

Even Lindsay Thomas kicked a pressure goal

Nothing personal, but too many cameo roles at the moment

Mind you, he's not alone in that aspect

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Agree 100% whenever Hannah has a set shot I expect him miss

[samcantstandya 1,082]

  On 23/06/2018 at 00:38, bobby1554 said:

OMac could be missing due to his hit on Marshall. Shouldn’t be, but you know the AFL! Other changes depend on form at Casey today. Garlett needs to play a blinder as his previous VFL form has been average at best. If Spargo is better, I would bring him in, for Tyson or Harmes.  A good game from Weid and he comes in for Tim Smith. Stretch in the mix, again for Tyson or Harmes.

Goodwin was pleased with the “behaviours” of the team, so don’t think there will be too many changes 

 

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So the behaviours are good it's the rest that's crap then

 

  On 22/06/2018 at 23:33, MurDoc516 said:

What the [censored] does everyone have against Lewis. He's good over head and probably in our top 5 kicks at the club. Everyone upset about his pace yet how many times does he get run down?

 

J. Smith is also a kid ffs. He had so many inspirational efforts against port tonight, being that last man in defence. Lever is a big miss, but it's not any one individuals fault in our defence that we look like [censored] now.

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It's because other teams exploit his lack of pace. He concedes the ball 2 often when one on one and they run off him

[DemonLad5 1,642]

This is the week they need to give Petty a run, put him on the young forward Battle from St Kilda. Omac to take McCartin

Hopefully Petty plays well, I’d like to see Vince dropped for him but can’t see that happening 

[DemonLad5 1,642]

What a lot of people aren’t  realising is we are lacking run from half back because Hibberd is being forced to defend a y’all due to our small backline 

[deelete my account 1,194]

  On 22/06/2018 at 22:13, jumbo returns said:

In: Garlett

Out: Hannan

Too many chances for this bloke 

Tommy Mac, please be okay and available

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I thought hannan was one of our best forwards in the first half. Did enough.

[D4Life 2,584]

  On 22/06/2018 at 23:07, brendan said:

Out: T.smith, Tyson 

in: Garlett/Spargo, weideman 

garlett/Spargo whoever plays the better game today 

Hannan stays for me still kicked 2.3 so getting opportunity 

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Agree.

I’d pick Garlett, add his average of 1.8 goals per game and it counts!

Also stick Weideman on 50m arc as a different target when opposition flooding inside 50. He’s a big pretty straight kick!

Vince very lucky to hold his place. Maybe try Petty instead of Vince!

[dl4e 5,851]

I'll watch casey today before making my mind up ( not that it matters ). Garlett is a bloke who won't perform at VFL level but will occasionally pull his finger out at AFL even though he is inconsistent.

[DistrACTION Jackson 10,789]

  On 23/06/2018 at 00:54, DemonLad5 said:

What a lot of people aren’t  realising is we are lacking run from half back because Hibberd is being forced to defend a y’all due to our small backline 

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100%.

One of Lewis or Vince just has to go as we can't keep carrying both in the backline. My pick is Vince.

Ins: Petty & Garlett (if he performs).

Outs: Vince & Tyson

B:      Jetta                  O McDonald          J Smith

HB:   Hibberd              Petty                       Lewis

c :     Salem                Viney                      Brayshaw

HF:   Fritsch               Hogan                    Melksham

F:     Garlett                T McDonald           Petracca

R:     Gawn                  Oliver                      Jones

Int:   Hannan        T Smith        Neal-Bullen      Harmes

I want them to roll the dice and give Petty a crack. We need Hibberd playing as the backline runner and he is unable to do that effectively at the moment. We can all see that having both Vince and Lewis down back is too slow so one of them has to go. Lewis is a better user so he stays.

Tyson is too slow and unless he is playing as a pure mid he is next to useless. I would like to see us trade him for someone with pace to play as a wingman.

This is my hope but I know Goodwin won't drop Vince.

[DemonLad5 1,642]

  On 23/06/2018 at 01:11, Is Dom Is Good said:

100%.

One of Lewis or Vince just has to go as we can't keep carrying both in the backline. My pick is Vince.

Ins: Petty & Garlett (if he performs).

Outs: Vince & Tyson

B:      Jetta                  O McDonald          J Smith

HB:   Hibberd              Petty                       Lewis

c :     Salem                Viney                      Brayshaw

HF:   Fritsch               Hogan                    Melksham

F:     Garlett                T McDonald           Petracca

R:     Gawn                  Oliver                      Jones

Int:   Hannan        T Smith        Neal-Bullen      Harmes

I want them to roll the dice and give Petty a crack. We need Hibberd playing as the backline runner and he is unable to do that effectively at the moment. We can all see that having both Vince and Lewis down back is too slow so one of them has to go. Lewis is a better user so he stays.

Tyson is too slow and unless he is playing as a pure mid he is next to useless. I would like to see us trade him for someone with pace to play as a wingman.

This is my hope but I know Goodwin won't drop Vince.

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Agree with this, that’d be my preferred side 

[jumbo returns 6,745]

  On 23/06/2018 at 00:57, John Demonic said:

I thought hannan was one of our best forwards in the first half. Did enough.

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Fair enough

I just don't like him having a set shot - his technique is highly flawed