Post Match Discussion - Round 14

[SFebes 4,884]

Just now, the rolling fog said:

Leaders who want the ball when it counts

Exactly 

[rolling fog 1,207]

3 hours ago, A F said:

Neal-Bullen is a hard runner, but he undoes too much of his good work with poor disposal and decision making. He looks good against ordinary opposition but his disposal under pressure is ordinary. So he should be cusp 22 for mine. 

We see and hear all these stats about how much of an elite runner ANB is, he covers the most distance, hits the highest speeds and all for what?!? 

You notice an impact against lower ranked sides, then some other weeks it seems like he must be running laps over the road at Gosch's during game time for all the impact he has relative to KM's covered

[Wiseblood 24,637]

28 minutes ago, the rolling fog said:

Leaders who want the ball when it counts

Who didn't want it when it counted?  Did someone go to give Viney a handpass and he shook his head at them?  Was Nathan Jones sticking himself in a back pocket to get as far away from the ball as possible?

Strange comment.

[jumbo returns 6,741]

12 hours ago, the rolling fog said:

We see and hear all these stats about how much of an elite runner ANB is, he covers the most distance, hits the highest speeds and all for what?!? 

You notice an impact against lower ranked sides, then some other weeks it seems like he must be running laps over the road at Gosch's during game time for all the impact he has relative to KM's covered

He murdered Motlop

[DeleteUser 638]

Has there been an update on Tmac? Googled On The Line first to check

[Red and Blue realist 2,051]

14 minutes ago, timbo said:

Has there been an update on Tmac? Googled On The Line first to check

In the AFL.com medical report, they said TMac and Jetta were sore but expected to play against the Saints, the 9 day break really helps.

[qwerty7 326]

I understand losing sucks, and I think it is more frustrating particularly when you believe your side deserved to win, but Friday’s effort was enormous.

I think overall, we were the better side of the match, unfortunately we just weren’t when it mattered most.

My brother and dad went to the game and they said the game was incredible and if we had won, that would have been enormously HUGE by us. I think when you’re at home watching from the TV, you don’t really realise the home ground advantage the Adelaide teams have. Every time Port kicked a goal the lights black out and the stadium alights with a thunderbolt – it’s incredible apparently.

Both said basically when Port hit the lead, they knew it would be hard to get over them purely because of how electric and exciting the crowd became. They also said the Adelaide teams have no right to complain about the GF in Vic when they have such an advantage with their Adelaide Oval fortress.

We were gallant and for the most part, better, but unfortunately, we didn’t cross the line because of poor efficiency inside 50 as well as a couple of dodgy free kicks in that last quarter.

Expect us to bounce back STRONGLY against Saints, and really hope we can make the run home to finals. I think we deserve to be there, it is simply about capitalising and taking every chance we get. Need a few guys to lift though to return to the form we had a couple of weeks – namely Hogan.

[stevethemanjordan 6,952]

2 hours ago, jumbo returns said:

He murdered Motlop

With all due respect, the amount of posters that confuse opposition players is unbelievable.

I've watched the entire first half replay and haven't seen ANB near Motlop at any stage. I can't remember the second half when I watched live and certainly didn't notice it then, I'll watch it again with ANB in mind. 

Where has this furphy come from? 

Do posters watch games or just listen to nonsense? 

[SFebes 4,884]

14 minutes ago, stevethemanjordan said:

With all due respect, the amount of posters that confuse opposition players is unbelievable.

I've watched the entire first half replay and haven't seen ANB near Motlop at any stage. I can't remember the second half when I watched live and certainly didn't notice it then, I'll watch it again with ANB in mind. 

Where has this furphy come from? 

Do posters watch games or just listen to nonsense? 

When a player plays bad, its "oh they were tagging so and so" - a demonland habit thats only crept in lately. Denial is the first sign of failure they say.

[iv'a worn smith 1,979]

We have a reputation of being downhill skiers.  We have played some great footy this year, when we have been permitted to run freely.

But if we really want to go to the next level, we need to learn to step up when more physicality is imposed on us by the opposition.  At this stage, it would appear to be so close yet so far.

  

[DeeWiz 296]

I've had a few days to reflect on the game now, so now I'd like to add my 2 cents. My fit of rage is hopefully almost over now, I'll try not to get too emotional again. My immediate reaction after the full time siren was probably the same as everyone else "f'in maggots f'kd us in the butt and cost us 4 points", followed by "those Port c**ts we're lucky to win that". On reflection, I probably wouldn't change my view too much.

Firstly before I start ranting, I want to say something positive. I thought compared to Queens Birthday our intensity and effort on the inside was huge and we completely dominated Port in this area. This was reflected by our conversion to clearances and inside 50s. So in that regard I was very happy with our performance and how we lifted compared to the last game. Very positive signs going into next week.

Now to the negative criticisms. Port were very fortunate with some calls by the officials which kept them alive. If that game could be replayed the same way but without the poor (non)decisions, I feel like on balance that was a 5-6 goal win for us even with our inefficiency inside 50. I think this is why the loss hurts so much to me because I felt like we gave everything and didn't get rewarded with 4 points. I feel gutted for the lads based solely on this regard.

During the game we were threatening to kick away, and I thought once we opened up to a 4-5 goal lead that the game would open up. There were a couple of times in the game where we almost did exactly this with a run of quick goals in typical Dees fashion. However, every time we got 3 goals in the clear there was always a dubious umpiring call that released the pressure valve and resulted in a Port goal, which in turn completely halted our momentum. In my opinion, this had a huge effect on the final result as it kept them within range and stopped us blowing out the lead.

The inability to get away on the scoreboard allowed Port to continue to play their negative defensive football (which I hate by the way) and contributed to our inefficiency. The reason I believe they were extremely lucky is that it worked for them with some external assistance. Port were completely dominated in the middle however managed to hang on by the skin of their teeth and ultimately take the lead late in the game.

I recall at some point during the 2nd half they flashed up stats on the screen showing Port had 7 goals to our 2 from set shots. I don't know what this stat ended up being at full time. I know one of them was that non-mark that was paid, and at least a couple more from soft free kicks. For example, I thought Brayshaw was unlucky to get pinged for a high challenge for jumping in the air to attempt an intercept and getting headbutt in the guts. Meanwhile at the other end, we had to work our socks off to get set shots on goal, but got denied goals or goal scoring opportunities by baffling calls.

On the balance of play I feel like that should have been a comfortable win to the Dees, and I certainly couldn't have faulted our performance too much besides the obvious that we didn't impact the scoreboard enough. It's an area that we clearly need to work on, but I certainly don't think it should have cost us 4 points this time.

I can take heart that we won't lose too many games playing like that. Bring on the Saints.

[beelzebub 23,378]

34 minutes ago, iv'a worn smith said:

We have a reputation of being downhill skiers.  We have played some great footy this year, when we have been permitted to run freely.

But if we really want to go to the next level, we need to learn to step up when more physicality is imposed on us by the opposition.  At this stage, it would appear to be so close yet so far.

  

This year we added Flat track bullies to our cred...hey thats how we roll...

There have been for mine 3 games thus far that were finals like in so far as it was just a pressure cooker.

Thats 3 for zip !!

Unless we learn this next step up we ain't going anywhere...and even if we go there.. we're still going nowhere.

A brand wont get you anywhere...a culture might. That and tactics with the right players...in the right place

[jumbo returns 6,741]

2 hours ago, stevethemanjordan said:

With all due respect, the amount of posters that confuse opposition players is unbelievable.

I've watched the entire first half replay and haven't seen ANB near Motlop at any stage. I can't remember the second half when I watched live and certainly didn't notice it then, I'll watch it again with ANB in mind. 

Where has this furphy come from? 

Do posters watch games or just listen to nonsense? 

Fair call - ANB shut him down

[stevethemanjordan 6,952]

2 minutes ago, jumbo returns said:

Fair call - ANB shut him down

Hang on, what? 

Are you ill? 

[Redleg 40,929]

28 minutes ago, jumbo returns said:

Fair call - ANB shut him down

Well ANB was certainly not on Motlop when ANB ran into goal and missed from 10 metres out, nor when he smashed a handball into Jones' face from 2 metres away,  nor when he miskicked to teammates from 20 metres away twice, nor when he fumbled the ball a few times and nor when he dropped an easy mark.

Might have played on him at some other stage of the game, not that I noticed it.

[old dee 23,792]

14 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Well ANB was certainly not on Motlop when ANB ran into goal and missed from 10 metres out, nor when he smashed a handball into Jones' face from 2 metres away,  nor when he miskicked to teammates from 20 metres away twice, nor when he fumbled the ball a few times and nor when he dropped an easy mark.

Might have played on him at some other stage of the game, not that I noticed it.

A VFL talent Mr. Leg AFL level against top sides he aint

[jumbo returns 6,741]

1 hour ago, stevethemanjordan said:

Hang on, what? 

Are you ill? 

 

31 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Well ANB was certainly not on Motlop when ANB ran into goal and missed from 10 metres out, nor when he smashed a handball into Jones' face from 2 metres away,  nor when he miskicked to teammates from 20 metres away twice, nor when he fumbled the ball a few times and nor when he dropped an easy mark.

Might have played on him at some other stage of the game, not that I noticed it.

He did - watch the game

As well as being wasteful - I get that

[jumbo returns 6,741]

18 minutes ago, old dee said:

A VFL talent Mr. Leg AFL level against top sides he aint

He needs to play the entire year in the firsts, od, before the FD make a call on him

On Friday night, he did a good job

 

[old dee 23,792]

1 minute ago, jumbo returns said:

He needs to play the entire year in the firsts, od, before the FD make a call on him

On Friday night, he did a good job

 

We are going to disagree on that one jr.

[jumbo returns 6,741]

2 minutes ago, old dee said:

We are going to disagree on that one jr.

Thank you for the temperate response, od

And yep, let's agree to disagree

Hope you're not pining too much for warmer climes

[old dee 23,792]

10 minutes ago, jumbo returns said:

Thank you for the temperate response, od

And yep, let's agree to disagree

Hope you're not pining too much for warmer climes

After a great trip jr I have come back to cold weather and the Dees of old. However I am very relaxed about our football team they are about where I expected at the start of the year. I still think we will finish Eighth, that is about where our list talent is at. 

[SPC 3,549]

Gee I hate seeing the Melbourne Media pumping up our performance.. that game may have cost us a chance at finals.. 

[beelzebub 23,378]

To any and all who are comforting themselves with the idea we would a beaten them had it not be for XY or  Z decision....or another other subjective hypothetical... may I just offer a reminder of our sterling scoreboard pressure of that last and very important quarter..

My lord ....I offer into evidence...point 1...and point 2 

and not a single goal

Gone from attacking the record number of winning qtrs .... to not even snagging a sausage !!!

Not a good time of the year to start getting the wobbles.

Edited June 25, 2018 by beelzebub

[Diamond_Jim 12,591]

23 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

To any and all who are comforting themselves with the idea we would a beaten them had it not be for XY or  Z decision....or another other subjective hypothetical... may I just offer a reminder of our sterling scoreboard pressure of that last and very important quarter..

My lord ....I offer into evidence...point 1...and point 2 

and not a single goal

Gone from attacking the record number of winning qtrs .... to not even snagging a sausage !!!

Not a good time of the year to start getting the wobbles.

Our last goal was at the 17 minute mark of the third quarter.

Our first behind for the final quarter was at the 20 minute mark.

The gameplan certainly broke down against Port.

[Roost It 1,434]

On 6/23/2018 at 10:26 PM, SFebey said:

We don’t have Riewoldt, Cotchin, Rance or Dusty....

Just B grade plodders and leaders who can’t hide quick enough when we need them.

[censored] that's a stupid comment. had Brayshaw been played the mark and Wingard not we would of won. 

we have very few plodders and are still adapting to life after lever