http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2018-04-19/gawn-calls-for-leaders-to-stand-up

 

Gawn can look at himself. He was on SEN this morning talking about how he grew up a Richmond fan and was out on the [censored] celebrating in Punt Rd after they won the flag last year. Is that a club leader’s behaviour? 

1 hour ago, Goffer said:

Gawn can look at himself. He was on SEN this morning talking about how he grew up a Richmond fan and was out on the [censored] celebrating in Punt Rd after they won the flag last year. Is that a club leader’s behaviour? 

Oh FFS.

Should start kicking goals from 20m out directly in front as a leader. Just saying. 

Does anyone have any idea who the young leaders at the club are??

Every second draft pick we took for years used to be called 'a future leader of the club' (Trenners, Grimes, Watts, etc.).

Who of the under 23s a future/current leader?

5 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Does anyone have any idea who the young leaders at the club are??

Every second draft pick we took for years used to be called 'a future leader of the club' (Trenners, Grimes, Watts, etc.).

Who of the under 23s a future/current leader?

Oliver. And Viney has just turned 24. Lever is also 22.

Edited April 19, 20187 yr by jnrmac

All well and good to come out and say it after the fact.

2 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

Oliver. And Viney has just turned 24. Lever is also 22.

Rate Oliver to play like a leader, don't yet rate him to carry others along for the ride. Which is not to say he won't get there, but I don't see it at the moment.

1 minute ago, jnrmac said:

Oliver. And Viney has just turned 24. Lever is also 22.

Oliver's an interesting one and you're right about Lever (by reputation).

Whilst he's arguably our best player under 22, you don't really see Clarry talking too much to teammates out on the field, pumping them up, putting a hand on their shoulder, etc.  He gives some niggle to the opposition, which is great!  Will be interesting to see who emerges from the pack of very talented young players to be real leaders on the field.

During WW2 The RAF lost all of nearly its squadron leaders as well as its most experienced flight crews within a few months of the start of hostilities. Eventually due to attrition and necessity most aircrew were teenagers and there were officers and squadron leaders not yet in their 20’s running the show. There were elite night fighter pilots who could not drive a car and were legally too young to have a license.. I am sure that if given an opportunity there are real unheralded leaders lurking within the clubs lower and junior hierarchy. And I don’t mean the pinup boy types like during the Neeld era. I guess we will never know whilst the overpaid and over comfortable lot are still in charge.

Edited April 19, 20187 yr by america de cali

hopefully some will stand under his tap outs

1 minute ago, america de cali said:

During WW2 The RAF lost all of nearly its squadron leaders as well as its most experienced flight crews within a few months of the start of hostilities. Eventually most aircrew were teenagers and there were officers and squadron leaders not yet in their 20’s running the show. There were elite  night fighter pilots who could not drive a car and were legally too young to learn. I am sure that if given an opportunity there are real unheralded leaders lurking within the clubs lower and junior hierarchy. I guess we will never know whilst the overpaid and over comfortable lot are still in charge.

It's a good analogy, but I think it might have been what Bailey and Neeld had in mind when they cleared out everyone over the age of 28 leaving us with Grimes and Trengove holding the reins...

 

3 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

It's a good analogy, but I think it might have been what Bailey and Neeld had in mind when they cleared out everyone over the age of 28 leaving us with Grimes and Trengove holding the reins...

 

Good point but different circumstances. Then there was chaos akin to open revolt, now there inertia and confusion.

2 hours ago, Goffer said:

Gawn can look at himself. He was on SEN this morning talking about how he grew up a Richmond fan and was out on the [censored] celebrating in Punt Rd after they won the flag last year. Is that a club leader’s behaviour? 

Gr8 hope he won't be celebrating another Richmond win on Tues night.

2 hours ago, Goffer said:

Gawn can look at himself. He was on SEN this morning talking about how he grew up a Richmond fan and was out on the [censored] celebrating in Punt Rd after they won the flag last year. Is that a club leader’s behaviour? 

 

3 minutes ago, samcantstandya said:

Gr8 hope he won't be celebrating another Richmond win on Tues night.

He said in the video above 'I wasn't carrying on when they won the flag though.'  (5:26)

Well good leadership is standing up in key moments, twice now max has failed to kick the kickable goal. Granted last week in the end didn't help. But Max has been around long enough to kick those. 

That's my only blight on max. But yes and we are desperately missing Viney. 

1 hour ago, Jaded said:

Should start kicking goals from 20m out directly in front as a leader. Just saying. 

Nothing more needs to said on the subject Jaded

An absolutely embarrassing and bewildering press conference from Gawn.

Staggering that he would feel the need to air our dirty laundry so publicly and admit that Hawthorn won the mental battle and have a mental edge over us.  Between the camp and this sort of talk, you would just be licking your lips coming up against Melbourne as an opposition player.

44 minutes ago, Watts Jurrah Dunn? said:

Between the camp and this sort of talk, you would just be licking your lips coming up against Melbourne as an opposition player.

Yep, the moment it starts to not go the way the playing group wants it to, they just roll over.

2 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

Yep, the moment it starts to not go the way the playing group wants it to, they just roll over.

But.....but it was an aberration according to some. 

Edited April 19, 20187 yr by america de cali

2 minutes ago, america de cali said:

But.....but it was an aberration according to some. 

Ah right, you're that type, yeah?  Take quotes from others and flip them into other threads?  it's rather funny coming from the bloke who spent months potting Jesse Hogan before he re-signed and questioned his worth to the team.  Just goes to show how terrific your knowledge of the game is.

For the record, the last quarter against the Hawks was an aberration.  When was the last time we really played like that?  We might cough up a run of goals far more than we should, but we don't roll over for sides like that.

13 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

Ah right, you're that type, yeah?  Take quotes from others and flip them into other threads?  it's rather funny coming from the bloke who spent months potting Jesse Hogan before he re-signed and questioned his worth to the team.  Just goes to show how terrific your knowledge of the game is.

For the record, the last quarter against the Hawks was an aberration.  When was the last time we really played like that?  We might cough up a run of goals far more than we should, but we don't roll over for sides like that.

We rolled over for 9th spot last season. A disaster followed by a disaster in losing 25 percentage  points and four spots on the ladder let alone the humiliation. Just losing the four points seems trifling. How many wake up calls can we take?  For the record, since Hogan got rid of his antics and started acting like a footballer I changed my opinion on him ages ago. Trust you to play the poster and not the argument. I hope the club pays you well for all the spin and tripe you dish out to justify mediocrity. 

Edited April 19, 20187 yr by america de cali

Just now, america de cali said:

We rolled over for 9th spot last season. A disaster followed by a disaster in losing 25 percentage  points and four spots on the ladder let alone the humiliation. How many wake up calls can we take?  For the record, now that Hogan got rid of his antics and started acting like a footballer I changed my opinion on him ages ago. Trust you to play the poster and not the argument. I hope the club pays you well for all the spin and tripe you dish out to justify mediocrity. 

You were the one who had a dip at my point of view in another thread.  If you don't like someone retaliating then don't act like a child in the first place.

Your changed opinion doesn't now justify that absolute rubbish you posted about Hogan a few seasons back.

Just now, Wiseblood said:

You were the one who had a dip at my point of view in another thread.  If you don't like someone retaliating then don't act like a child in the first place.

Your changed opinion doesn't now justify that absolute rubbish you posted about Hogan a few seasons back.

Deflect and distract. The art of a propaganda bull artist.

Just now, america de cali said:

Deflect and distract. The art of a propaganda bull artist.

Deflect and distract?  That's a good one.  I've discussed my point of view with plenty of people in a variety of threads over the last couple of days.  

You, on the other hand, ran off to another thread and had a dip at my point of view rather than challenging it directly at me.  Weak as [censored].