Preseason Training Week commencing 19 February 2018

[Dingo 1,057]

When and where are the Men training this week beginning Monday 19/2?

Thanks.

[Whispering_Jack 29,805]

According to the melbournefc.com.au website the only men’s open training session is on Wednesday ~

“Wednesday 21st February, 9.30am, Gosch's Paddock”

[Demonland 71,622]

@Satyriconhome - Any training today?

[Demon Jack 6,862]

I think I have a free Wednesday morning. I try and pop down again and write up a report.

[Demonland 71,622]

3 minutes ago, Demon Jack said:

I think I have a free Wednesday morning. I try and pop down again and write up a report.

Demonlanders thank you.

[Satyriconhome 10,731]

1 hour ago, Demonland said:

@Satyriconhome - Any training today?

At work    but will be there for full session on Wednesday, complete with uninsightful comments on training drills, gossip, gun and rig watching and blurry photos

Edited February 19, 2018 by Satyriconhome

[Bang Bang Bang 5,802]

Anyone know how Pat McKenna is tracking? Missed a whole year with a hammy last year after two injury riddled years in Sydney so not holding up the highest of hopes for him, but hope he's at least training with the main group.

[Demonland 71,622]

1 minute ago, Sylvia Saint said:

Anyone know how Pat McKenna is tracking? Missed a whole year with a hammy last year after two injury riddled years in Sydney so not holding up the highest of hopes for him, but hope he's at least training with the main group.

I read recently that he was still in the rehab group. It does not bode well for his career considering the amount of long term injuries he has had.

[The Chazz 4,077]

2 minutes ago, Demonland said:

I read recently that he was still in the rehab group. It does not bode well for his career considering the amount of long term injuries he has had.

Rules state that we need to move on a minimum 3 players each year.  As our list builds its depth, we need players like McKenna to make these list management decisions easier at the end of the year.

Reality is, McKenna cost us very little - we probably wouldn't have used the later of the picks we gave to GWS anyway.

Harsh?  Yes.  Sorry.

[Earl Hood 6,082]

Rode my bike past training this morning about 10.30 and they finished at 11.20 so I guess I missed the first hour. Saw Lewis and melch walking off as I arrived and Hogan, Keilty and the Weid arriving late.

Did not see Brayshaw, Tracca, Tyson, Stretch, AVB, ANB, Neville, Maynard, Wagner, 

Or Fritsch, thought I saw TMac early on. Didn’t notice McKenna.

they were changing gear when I arrived so maybe the first hour was running drills. The hour I saw was fairly light on, two groups, each split into 4 groups practicing picking up a rolling ball, baulking a coach and short passing 25 meters to the next group one of which would mark the ball, handball to a running player who kicked to a target and so on. They swung it around to kick left foot, then right foot. 

They then played some game to lighten things up with groups facing each other inside an area with cones. A player would handball to a team mate, another handball then one would do a dribble kick straight at the one of the opposing team. He then had to take the ball cleanly or it was deemed a point to the opposition. No juggling allowed. Oscar Baker showed some very clean hands and quick reflexes. Indeed the few times I have seen him he has ticked the boxes with sure ball handling.

i spent a lot of time watching Viney who was working away from the main group with 4 assistant coaches who were kicking balls to on the lead out of the goal square, mark, swing onto his left and snap at goal. Later the coaches were playing keeping off with Viney trying to intercept rapid handballs forcing him to weave from side to side, intercept, then snap on goal. All this went on continuously with little time to recover. Viney looked unimpeded to me and was working at a much higher intensity than the main group. Later he was running laps and repeat sprints. Maybe he is cherry ripe but they need to [censored] him harder so he makes round 1. 

Finished with everyone lining up in the pocket needing to slot a goal through on the angle with a stiff breeze bending to ball toward the Near point post so you had to aim at the far goal post to have any chance. Most got it through first time but Frost, King and J Smith I think took a couple of goes under a lot of pressure from their peers. And that was it. No standouts that I noticed apart from Viney. 

I then rode over the park to watch a bit of Storm training, Billy S and Cam Smith looked in good nick. 

[Master Deebater 490]

4 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

At work    but will be there for full session on Wednesday, complete with uninsightful comments on training drills, gossip, gun and rig watching and blurry photos

You cop heaps of rubbish but luv your work. Saty you're much appreciated by the guys and gals that can't be there. And when you report your insights we're much better for it. Thanks heaps,, another old phart!.

[Its Time for Another 4,196]

4 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

At work    but will be there for full session on Wednesday, complete with uninsightful comments on training drills, gossip, gun and rig watching and blurry photos

Saty would really appreciate an update on the Weid if you get a chance to talk to coaches or him. 

He missed most of his last junior year with a stress fracture in his ankle. The off season operation he had was on an ankle. Firstly do you know or can you find it if it was related to the original problem. If not what happened to cause it and did it affect him last year.   Secondly how is he tracking and when will he be fully operational.  The original plan was for him to be back in the main group after Maroochydore. That's come and gone so I take it its taking longer than expected to recover. From what I've read he's been doing a lot of running since November so what's the hold up.

Thanks in anticipation.

[Skuit 10,031]

31 minutes ago, Earl Hood said:

i spent a lot of time watching Viney who was working away from the main group with 4 assistant coaches who were kicking balls to on the lead out of the goal square, mark, swing onto his left and snap at goal. Later the coaches were playing keeping off with Viney trying to intercept rapid handballs forcing him to weave from side to side, intercept, then snap on goal.

Love how it takes almost our entire coaching staff to play keeping offs with Viney.

[Earl Hood 6,082]

57 minutes ago, It's Time said:

Saty would really appreciate an update on the Weid if you get a chance to talk to coaches or him. 

He missed most of his last junior year with a stress fracture in his ankle. The off season operation he had was on an ankle. Firstly do you know or can you find it if it was related to the original problem. If not what happened to cause it and did it affect him last year.   Secondly how is he tracking and when will he be fully operational.  The original plan was for him to be back in the main group after Maroochydore. That's come and gone so I take it its taking longer than expected to recover. From what I've read he's been doing a lot of running since November so what's the hold up.

Thanks in anticipation.

The Weid was in the main group today, first time I have seen him not running laps or doing forward work with coaches away from the main group. It was a low intensity session but he was moving well enough. 

[Redleg 40,843]

If VDB is still on the long term injury list for a second year, it bodes badly for his AFL career.

[Satyriconhome 10,731]

15 minutes ago, Earl Hood said:

The Weid was in the main group today, first time I have seen him not running laps or doing forward work with coaches away from the main group. It was a low intensity session but he was moving well enough. 

He said he was expecting to be with main  group this week,  will ask

Bellieve today was just a low key turnover of the limbs with Wednesday as main session,  maybe,  as we play on Saturday

And the return of AFLX players

[CHF 2,720]

A question for the track watchers..... 

 

I have not seen Hunt mentioned all that much in reports. how is he going?

[Whispering_Jack 29,805]

1 hour ago, Earl Hood said:

The Weid was in the main group today, first time I have seen him not running laps or doing forward work with coaches away from the main group. It was a low intensity session but he was moving well enough. 

He looked very close to getting back on Saturday at  Casey Fields but I would also add that so did Jack Viney and nobody seems to be putting a definite time on his return.

[Earl Hood 6,082]

11 minutes ago, CHF said:

A question for the track watchers..... 

 

I have not seen Hunt mentioned all that much in reports. how is he going?

Hunt was there today and took part in all the action and was quite energetic and vocal in a couple of the routines. Didn’t standout that much but I do remember he nailed the last routine, the kick on goal from an angle with a torp from 50 m. That went through the middle. 

Now that I think of it, though unrelated, was noting how vocal Spargo was in one of the routines, yelling at players to get on queue! As a newbie I liked it and it caught my attention. Spargo is one to watch I think.

[CHF 2,720]

24 minutes ago, Earl Hood said:

Hunt was there today and took part in all the action and was quite energetic and vocal in a couple of the routines. Didn’t standout that much but I do remember he nailed the last routine, the kick on goal from an angle with a torp from 50 m. That went through the middle. 

Now that I think of it, though unrelated, was noting how vocal Spargo was in one of the routines, yelling at players to get on queue! As a newbie I liked it and it caught my attention. Spargo is one to watch I think.

Thanks for that, Earl. Good to hear he is up and about. I look forward to seeing him back up his performance last year and to see if he has added anything to his game.

 

 

 

[brendan 3,434]

4 hours ago, Earl Hood said:

Rode my bike past training this morning about 10.30 and they finished at 11.20 so I guess I missed the first hour. Saw Lewis and melch walking off as I arrived and Hogan, Keilty and the Weid arriving late.

Did not see Brayshaw, Tracca, Tyson, Stretch, AVB, ANB, Neville, Maynard, Wagner, 

Or Fritsch, thought I saw TMac early on. Didn’t notice McKenna.

they were changing gear when I arrived so maybe the first hour was running drills. The hour I saw was fairly light on, two groups, each split into 4 groups practicing picking up a rolling ball, baulking a coach and short passing 25 meters to the next group one of which would mark the ball, handball to a running player who kicked to a target and so on. They swung it around to kick left foot, then right foot. 

They then played some game to lighten things up with groups facing each other inside an area with cones. A player would handball to a team mate, another handball then one would do a dribble kick straight at the one of the opposing team. He then had to take the ball cleanly or it was deemed a point to the opposition. No juggling allowed. Oscar Baker showed some very clean hands and quick reflexes. Indeed the few times I have seen him he has ticked the boxes with sure ball handling.

i spent a lot of time watching Viney who was working away from the main group with 4 assistant coaches who were kicking balls to on the lead out of the goal square, mark, swing onto his left and snap at goal. Later the coaches were playing keeping off with Viney trying to intercept rapid handballs forcing him to weave from side to side, intercept, then snap on goal. All this went on continuously with little time to recover. Viney looked unimpeded to me and was working at a much higher intensity than the main group. Later he was running laps and repeat sprints. Maybe he is cherry ripe but they need to [censored] him harder so he makes round 1. 

Finished with everyone lining up in the pocket needing to slot a goal through on the angle with a stiff breeze bending to ball toward the Near point post so you had to aim at the far goal post to have any chance. Most got it through first time but Frost, King and J Smith I think took a couple of goes under a lot of pressure from their peers. And that was it. No standouts that I noticed apart from Viney. 

I then rode over the park to watch a bit of Storm training, Billy S and Cam Smith looked in good nick. 

That idiot mark Stevens said on 7 news viney was looking doubtful for round 1 as he had runners on at training today and just ran laps, can you confirm if viney had runners or boots on, great report btw 

[Satyriconhome 10,731]

34 minutes ago, brendan said:

That idiot mark Stevens said on 7 news viney was looking doubtful for round 1 as he had runners on at training today and just ran laps, can you confirm if viney had runners or boots on, great report btw 

I speak to Jack at every session I get to, last time I spoke  to him he said he was right on track and @Earl Hood was very specific, next time I am next to Mark Stevens at training will give his mike a tweak

[Earl Hood 6,082]

1 hour ago, brendan said:

That idiot mark Stevens said on 7 news viney was looking doubtful for round 1 as he had runners on at training today and just ran laps, can you confirm if viney had runners or boots on, great report btw 

Yes I saw Stevo’s report on 7 tonight and certainly didn’t see him at the ground so I assume he was at training very early before heading up to the Lexus centre! If Viney was running laps in the first hour before I got there then he has put in a very solid 2 hour session, that is all I can say. He had boots on as far as I could tell for the 45 minutes he was running and kicking the ball with the 4 assistant coaches. As Saty has reported he gives every appearance of being on track for round 1. 

[Roger Mellie 3,984]

1 hour ago, Satyriconhome said:

 next time I am next to Mark Stevens at training will give his mike a tweak

Just chuck it in the Yarra

[poita 3,896]

Re: McKenna & Vandenberg, why were either of these players retained when it is crystal clear to most that they won't make it on to the field for most (all?) of the season?

They are just a couple of deep fringe players clogging up the list (and the medical rooms) with their constant injuries.

Far better to take a couple of rookie picks instead who might amount to something.