Trade rumours

[demoniac 1,330]

25 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Thats very clever trading ( for Carlton )  effectively a freebie 

Cap dump. Lobbe has a few years to go on around $500,000  a year. Blues take on his contract so get him for a nothing pick.

[Demon Jack 6,859]

I'm looking forward to that Victorian midfielder joining us in the next 40 minutes!

 

[GCDee 3,199]

29 minutes ago, jackaub said:

So nothing more for the Dees

Very disappointing trade week for us

No back up ruck no speedy outside mid no lively small forward

WATTS UP?

Jake lever. Literally the best trade targets for the period. We win.

[Demons1858 1,742]

24 minutes ago, KingDingAling said:

Port and Bombers have smashed trade week out of the park - especially Essendon. That is a good deal for Stringer. Credit to Dodoro, he held off until the last minute with this one. Bomber fans should be happy.

Yep, they are the clear winners. Carlton has done well getting quality picks in for the rebuild, SOS and Dodoro play hard ball and it shows in their results. Lessons to be learnt for next time for MFC

[jackaub 1,402]

1 minute ago, GCDee said:

Jake lever. Literally the best trade targets for the period. We win.

Agree

Still doesnt address our current needs

[Ethan Tremblay 30,825]

Just now, Demon Jack said:

I'm looking forward to that Victorian midfielder joining us in the next 40 minutes!

 

That ‘gun’ Victorian midfielder. 

[Adam The God 30,123]

6 minutes ago, Demons1858 said:

Yep, they are the clear winners. Carlton has done well getting quality picks in for the rebuild, SOS and Dodoro play hard ball and it shows in their results. Lessons to be learnt for next time for MFC

We have superior lists to both clubs. Lots to learn...

[daisycutter 29,604]

plenty of trade time left

 

[Demons1858 1,742]

11 minutes ago, A F said:

We have superior lists to both clubs. Lots to learn...

Don't disagree but what has that got to do the current trade period and who did most with what they had?

Edited October 19, 2017 by Demons1858

[GCDee 3,199]

10 minutes ago, jackaub said:

Agree

Still doesnt address our current needs

I think we are going for Gaff as a free agent next year. Could be a reason we wanted watts off our book.

Plus I like AVB to play the half forward role. Tough as nails and can take a grab.

[Lord Travis 10,696]

Cmon Dees upgrade some of those second rounders!

[Adam The God 30,123]

3 minutes ago, Demons1858 said:

Confused. Thought we were talking about the current trade period and who did most with what they had?

Seems all you're doing is whinging and potshotting.

If you can't accept that the industry seems to think we've had another successful trade period, that's your perogative, but I hardly think SOS is a great model.

Having said that there's always something to learn from others in trade period, but don't insinuate we haven't done well too.

[DemonOX 8,782]

37 minutes ago, --coach-- said:

Dogs have traded picks to get up to pick 16 from Carlton

28+30 for 16+40

Dogs also gave up next seasons second rounder too coach. 

[Gator 17,276]

49 minutes ago, jackaub said:

So nothing more for the Dees

Very disappointing trade week for us

No back up ruck no speedy outside mid no lively small forward

WATTS UP?

We've just picked up arguably the best player from the 2014 draft, certainly top 3 with Petracca and Heeney.

When is the last time a club got such a quality 21 year old out of another club ?

The Lever deal by itself makes this trade period a huge success and without question the best deal we've done in 20 years (Jeff White) and I suspect will be our best trade ever.

[Adam The God 30,123]

1 minute ago, ProDee said:

We've just picked up arguably the best player from the 2014 draft, certainly top 3 with Petracca and Heeney.

When is the last time a club got such a quality 21 year old out of another club ?

The Lever deal by itself makes this trade period a huge success and without question the best deal we've done in 20 years (Jeff White) and I suspect will be our best trade ever.

If we win a flag it will be.

[DemonOX 8,782]

Cameron to Brisbane for pic 12

[Little Goffy 14,447]

Interesting that we didn't target Matthew Lobbe from Port as a reserve ruck and freebie bonus to make the Watts trade look a little better value.

Meanwhile, Adelaide have effectively traded Lever for Gibbs. Obviously the Crows are looking for another bite at the Grand Final, so different circumstances. But I'd be really irritated if the Demons had given up that much for Gibbs, and I'm a big fan.

Another way to look at it; at the same price, we gained our likely best tall defender, aged 21, while the Crows gained an equivalent quality midfielder, aged 28.

 

[demoniac 1,330]

11 minutes ago, Demons1858 said:

Don't disagree but what has that got to do the current trade period and who did most with what they had?

It's a bit easier when you have plenty of cap room -  now and projecting forward - and best 22 spots available. 

[CBDees 3,167]

2 minutes ago, DemonOX said:

Cameron to Brisbane for pic 12

Had to happen!

[demoniac 1,330]

4 minutes ago, Little Goffy said:

Interesting that we didn't target Matthew Lobbe from Port as a reserve ruck and freebie bonus to make the Watts trade look a little better value.

Meanwhile, Adelaide have effectively traded Lever for Gibbs. Obviously the Crows are looking for another bite at the Grand Final, so different circumstances. But I'd be really irritated if the Demons had given up that much for Gibbs, and I'm a big fan.

Another way to look at it; at the same price, we gained our likely best tall defender, aged 21, while the Crows gained an equivalent quality midfielder, aged 28.

 

Would you have been happy to wear the last 2 years of Lobbe's $500,000 a year contract, cause that is what the Blues are wearing, for a backup Ruck? That ain't no freebie. The Blues can wear the contract cap wise because they don't have many players worthy of increased contracts in the next couple of years. 

Edited October 19, 2017 by demoniac

[Demons1858 1,742]

2 minutes ago, A F said:

Seems all you're doing is whinging and potshotting.

If you can't accept that the industry seems to think we've had another successful trade period, that's your perogative, but I hardly think SOS is a great model.

Having said that there's always something to learn from others in trade period, but don't insinuate we haven't done well too.

You seem a little defensive / sensitive to criticism of the club on this occasion AF - its not a pot shot its debating. Industry thinks we paid overs and we did. Would love SOS doing the negotiations for us with Taylor and co doing the scouting and selecting of the players

[rolling fog 1,207]

When it rains, it pours

[Little Goffy 14,447]

1 minute ago, demoniac said:

Would you have been happy to wear the last 2 years of Lobbe's $500,000 a year contract, cause that is what the Blues are wearing, for a backup Ruck? That ain't no freebie

Fair point, it is a big chunk of money. I figured it would be the alternative to agreeing to pay a share of Watts' contract. (Though that detail still isn't publicly confirmed as far as I'm aware)

 

[djr 1,433]

19 minutes ago, Demons1858 said:

Don't disagree but what has that got to do the current trade period and who did most with what they had?

Its about quality not quantity. You seem to just want action.

[Bring Back Barassi 552]

11 minutes ago, ProDee said:

We've just picked up arguably the best player from the 2014 draft, certainly top 3 with Petracca and Heeney.

When is the last time a club got such a quality 21 year old out of another club ?

The Lever deal by itself makes this trade period a huge success and without question the best deal we've done in 20 years (Jeff White) and I suspect will be our best trade ever.

Lever did all the work... he fell in our lap. I would not be patting our guys on the back for getting it done. Joe the goose if there ever was one