Welcome to Demonland: Jake Lever

[Ted Lasso 19,586]

[Wiseblood 24,637]

The plot is beginning to thicken.

[dieter 3,325]

3 minutes ago, Abe said:

This would be the Trade of the Century for the Demons. I like Frost's run but he is limited. I also stress that were Frost to remain I'd also be happy. Many limited players have been involved in premierships: Graeme Wise, Sheedy's love child Kevin Walsh etc etc

[Ted Lasso 19,586]

So the hyperhetical trade would be our first pick and sam frost? Surely that's a Major win for us to land a bloke like lever. 

[Wiseblood 24,637]

3 minutes ago, Abe said:

So the hyperhetical trade would be our first pick and sam frost? Surely that's a Major win for us to land a bloke like lever. 

I'd prefer to hang on to Frost, but I guess he ends up being the odd man out with the two McDonald boys and potentially Lever.  We would also have Garland for another year and Keilty on the rookie list.

[CBDees 3,167]

Just now, Wiseblood said:

I'd prefer to hang on to Frost, but I guess he ends up being the odd man out with the two McDonald boys and potentially Lever.  We would also have Garland for another year and Keilty on the rookie list.

Surely we would pay out Garland (and then maybe Casey could draft him in a player / development coach role)? I would also be happy to hang on to Frost and maybe throw in a second round pick as a sweetener for Adelaide.

No problems with retaining Keilty on the rookie list for a further year.

[Wiseblood 24,637]

Just now, CBDees said:

Surely we would pay out Garland (and then maybe Casey could draft him in a player / development coach role)? I would also be happy to hang on to Frost and maybe throw in a second round pick as a sweetener for Adelaide.

No problems with retaining Keilty on the rookie list for a further year.

Possibly, but what harm does it do to have him there for another year?  He has enough experience that he could come in and fill a gap for a few weeks if we have an injury or two.  We will have rookie list spots so you could theoretically stick another tall player there if you needed it.

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On 21/08/2017 at 8:16 PM, Danelska said:

Frost is on trade table? Lever in... yum.

you heard it here first

[CBDees 3,167]

6 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

Possibly, but what harm does it do to have him there for another year?  He has enough experience that he could come in and fill a gap for a few weeks if we have an injury or two.  We will have rookie list spots so you could theoretically stick another tall player there if you needed it.

We possibly don't need Garland  if we retain Frost and get Lever. My suggestion was that we retain him 'off the MFC books' and let him continue the role that he has been playing at the Casey Demons!

 

[Cards13 9,117]

Love the thought of Lever but Frost would be a big loss.

[Demon Disciple 12,537]

1 minute ago, Cards13 said:

Love the thought of Lever but Frost would be a big loss.

Agree, would prefer to hang on to Frost even if Lever came across

[Wiseblood 24,637]

3 minutes ago, Cards13 said:

Love the thought of Lever but Frost would be a big loss.

I agree, but it may come down to this:

Lever or Frost.  I know who we would all take.

[dimmy 1,308]

I do not know why we should be trading our first round pick as we already had done that this year. I f we keep trading out our First round we will lose a base for our development.

Having said that we must recognise that TMac,Omac, Jayden Hunt all were lower draft picks BUT Oliver ,Petracca and Brayshaw,Salem and Tyson were all high draft picks.

I just do not see why we should be throwing the Southern Stand at a defender when we really need an outside mid. But then we have Brayshaw potentially , Salem &Watts if they were tried in that role and Stretch, ANB ,JKH as possibles

[SFebes 4,884]

So Frost & 1st rounder for Lever and 2nd rounder?

[Cards13 9,117]

3 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

Agree, would prefer to hang on to Frost even if Lever came across

 

2 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

I agree, but it may come down to this:

Lever or Frost.  I know who we would all take.

Such a tough one, you have to give to get but I think Frosty has something that would be tough to lose. His pace for his size is exceptional, if he can tidy up he disposal some and keep the intensity high then he is a lock for each game. I'd have him ahead of Oscar.

[deelete my account 1,194]

Mitch Cleary browses DL? Frost talk heated up in the last few weeks ever since being dropped. 

[junk 342]

I wouldn't like to see frost leave he is still a valuable player. Getting Lever would be great which means that O'Mac may have to play wing alternating defence when required. Players have to be versatile Pedo rucks,forward and defends like T,Mac etc. Players who are unable to adapt to changes may be left out. J.Smith and Maynard will become mids/whatever. We need a tough nut FP player who can create havoc,Petracca might fit the bill. We need to replemish our ruck stocks with the view of giving Gawn a rest every now and then.

[buck_nekkid 6,103]

If Lever nominates us to come home, then we may do Frost for Lever as a swap?  Seem to remember we let them have Armstrong for a steal because he wanted to go home.  Normally if the player nominates a club, they get it done.  Sam Frost would be valuable enough for a like-for-like, with the pressure of losing him for nothing.  (*Perhaps I'm dreaming...)

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4 minutes ago, buck_nekkid said:

If Lever nominates us to come home, then we may do Frost for Lever as a swap?  Seem to remember we let them have Armstrong for a steal because he wanted to go home.  Normally if the player nominates a club, they get it done.  Sam Frost would be valuable enough for a like-for-like, with the pressure of losing him for nothing.  (*Perhaps I'm dreaming...)

I think you are dreaming a little bit as Lever is definitely a lot better player than Frost.  Still, Frost did show a bit early this year.

Would be wonderful if we could keep our first rounder somehow and maybe Frost out could assist here

[worldwideweb_demon 90]

Whats with the obsession with keeping the first pick? Who knows, it could still be pick 18! Would trade out all our picks for lever!

But seriously, those wanting frost too.. he might not be happy playing in 2s for most of the year if he stays right?

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14 minutes ago, buck_nekkid said:

If Lever nominates us to come home, then we may do Frost for Lever as a swap?  Seem to remember we let them have Armstrong for a steal because he wanted to go home.  Normally if the player nominates a club, they get it done.  Sam Frost would be valuable enough for a like-for-like, with the pressure of losing him for nothing.  (*Perhaps I'm dreaming...)

Think we gave Armstrong away cause he was no good.  Scott Thompson though.....

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Just now, 71 Molloy said:

Think we gave Armstrong away cause he was no good.  Scott Thompson though.....

Yep, that one...

[Thrice 216]

On 02/08/2017 at 3:18 PM, Thrice said:

I reckon Frost is part of the deal. It's the only plausible reason he would have put contract negotiations on hold till the end of the season.

Frost, who would be around the mark of their best 22 without Lever, and out first round pick this year would easily get it done.

You heard it hear first...

[Wiseblood 24,637]

2 minutes ago, Thrice said:

You heard it hear first...

I see what you did there.

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45 minutes ago, Cards13 said:

Love the thought of Lever but Frost would be a big loss.

Agreed, but the truth of the matter is you need to give something of quality to get quality in return.

I quite like how our backline is shaping up, and Frost possesses athletic qualities that simply cannot be replaced.  However, I cannot deny that Lever is at a standard and quality that not many on our list possess.