I dunno where this team will end up - far too many variables for for soothsaying - but most of them are tough. Not thugs, but see ball get ball, get in my way and it's your problem tough. And the toughest are still kids. Maybe they will get a flag, maybe they won't, but we'll win more than we lose and no C grade pretend tough will ever mention the words 'bruise free footy' unless he is talking about his side.

 

That, right now, is gold.

 

Yes they are young and sometimes bigger bodies grind them down, but they won't be pups forever.

5 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Love that pic!  I reckon Jack Watts would have loved seeing Jack Viney go after Rance - the 'smallest' guy in the team sticking up for him...birds eye view of physical courage and mental fortitude.  Probably helped to get himself into games more, physically.  JV is such a terrier!

 

Rance attacked the Jumper, the spirit of the Jumper, his first mistake, & he also slapped Watts.

 

Attack one, attack all. that's the way we play at the Demons.

 

16 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

I don't know why the topic is called Optimist only    it should be Realist only

No, optimism is different to realism. Realism is about the way things are now. It cannot factor in the future because it's unknown. Optimism acknowledges this fact but chooses to adopt a positive view of what could be. They are different concepts. Pessimism is at the other end of the scale. It refuses to acknowledge their is any future other than that which the past predicts.

Realistically, we are a team that has made some improvements to our list and have begun to win a few more games than in the past. We have also managed to eliminate the big thrashings of the past few years. These are observable facts.

Pessimistically, we are a team that has been abysmal over the past decade and, based on those observable facts, it would appear, to some, that we will always be abysmal no matter what happens.

Optimistically, the past is behind us and, based on that observable fact, there is the possibility that the next few years will bring great things for the club.

I choose optimism because I don't have enough years left to waste them living the past again and again. It can't be changed. It is what it is - to quote a recent past coach. I would probably prefer to say, it was what it was. The present gives me some evidence to believe that my optimism is not completely unfounded. That's good enough for me.

For once I think we can say that optimist and realist are not mutually exclusive attributes of Demon supporters.

Nice sentiments,

Agreed things are looking up and although I have had misgivings about Roos at times I admit I was wrong.

Hope the we can eep recruiting like we have and keep improving.

Despite the criticism of omac i think he will emmerge as one of our greats in 2 or 3 years.

 

8 minutes ago, leave it to deever said:

Nice sentiments,

Agreed things are looking up and although I have had misgivings about Roos at times I admit I was wrong.

Hope the we can eep recruiting like we have and keep improving.

Despite the criticism of omac i think he will emmerge as one of our greats in 2 or 3 years.

 

You see, that's optimism. The pessimist would say, Nah, he'll never be any better than his brother, and he's a spud. The realist would say, Nah, I haven't seen anything to suggest he's anything special. The optimist says, I think he will.... 

Dees are looking good. 6-8 blokes that could be champions and the rest seem like they're being trained to play the right way and be good role players.

Financially we seem to be in a good spot, membership slowly creeping up, match attendances pretty good, sponsorship reasonable. Would love PJ to stay forever but if and when he does leave, I'm sure he'll have a solid succession plan in place.

We definitely could still make the finals. It's unlikely, but it's possible. OMG I would love that so much - every time I think about it I get goosebumps! I have this vision that we'll be playing GWS away in the first final and twenty thousand Melbourne supporters will de-camp to Sydney Showgrounds to show those pretenders what history and passion really means!  

Whatever happened to young Lovett i thought he was going to play for the Scorpions this year to see if he could handle AFL but, so far i have not seen him listed in any of the Scorpions teams. if he was as good as his old man he would be a great pickup.

2 hours ago, The Reverend said:

No, optimism is different to realism. Realism is about the way things are now. It cannot factor in the future because it's unknown. Optimism acknowledges this fact but chooses to adopt a positive view of what could be. They are different concepts. Pessimism is at the other end of the scale. It refuses to acknowledge their is any future other than that which the past predicts.

Realistically, we are a team that has made some improvements to our list and have begun to win a few more games than in the past. We have also managed to eliminate the big thrashings of the past few years. These are observable facts.

Pessimistically, we are a team that has been abysmal over the past decade and, based on those observable facts, it would appear, to some, that we will always be abysmal no matter what happens.

Optimistically, the past is behind us and, based on that observable fact, there is the possibility that the next few years will bring great things for the club.

I choose optimism because I don't have enough years left to waste them living the past again and again. It can't be changed. It is what it is - to quote a recent past coach. I would probably prefer to say, it was what it was. The present gives me some evidence to believe that my optimism is not completely unfounded. That's good enough for me.

One thing to add to the realistic statement, which also adds weight to the optimism statement, and that is the standard of the development of our young players is much better than it was. That is clearly observable. 

14 minutes ago, Chris said:

One thing to add to the realistic statement, which also adds weight to the optimism statement, and that is the standard of the development of our young players is much better than it was. That is clearly observable. 

Agreed. Thank you for your positive contribution. It warms an old optimist's heart.

1 hour ago, Beachball said:

Whatever happened to young Lovett i thought he was going to play for the Scorpions this year to see if he could handle AFL but, so far i have not seen him listed in any of the Scorpions teams. if he was as good as his old man he would be a great pickup.

He's been playing development league. Seems a long way off AFL standard

3 hours ago, Uncle Fester said:

I dunno where this team will end up - far too many variables for for soothsaying - but most of them are tough. Not thugs, but see ball get ball, get in my way and it's your problem tough. And the toughest are still kids. Maybe they will get a flag, maybe they won't, but we'll win more than we lose and no C grade pretend tough will ever mention the words 'bruise free footy' unless he is talking about his side.

 

That, right now, is gold.

 

Yes they are young and sometimes bigger bodies grind them down, but they won't be pups forever.

I'm loving watching the tackles stick. 

It seemed to me, that last year, both  Brayshaw and Jonesy seemed to have a friendly competition for who could hit their tackles the hardest. I could add a dozen more boys this year. 

I found it so frustrating watching our players 'tag' rather than tackle a few years back. It was crushing as a supporter to hear the way we played was soft and to agree with it was a further kick. 

I'm now starting to feel the chest swell when they're on song, smile when dissecting the weekends games with work mates, even when we lose. Even they can admit we are coming, Oliver and Petrecca seem to attract the most interest. 

I'm not sure how you go about braking a 50+ year old curse, but, it's time to let go Norm. We're in good hands now and our current crop would never stitch you up the way you were. Let us go and win the 10 in a row you deserved!

channelling ghosts of the past? I think I may have lost it. 

 

 

Good work DD. 38 posts on an optimism thread could be some sort of record. Keep up the good work.

GO DEES!

16 minutes ago, The Reverend said:

Good work DD. 38 posts on an optimism thread could be some sort of record. Keep up the good work.

GO DEES!

Who would have thunk it. Glad I'm not alone. 

3 hours ago, The Reverend said:

You see, that's optimism. The pessimist would say, Nah, he'll never be any better than his brother, and he's a spud. The realist would say, Nah, I haven't seen anything to suggest he's anything special. The optimist says, I think he will.... 

Your typical Demons fan is an optimist by nature, a pessimist from experience and a realist about half-way through the last quarter. 

7 minutes ago, leave it to deever said:

The Engineer: that glass is twice as big as it needs to be

1 hour ago, Demi Dee said:

Who would have thunk it. Glad I'm not alone. 

We are not alone

1 hour ago, small but forward said:

The Engineer: that glass is twice as big as it needs to be

The politician-

We need more glasses

2 minutes ago, leave it to deever said:

The politician-

We need more glasses

 

So we need to raise taxes so we can pay for them.

 

 

2 minutes ago, leave it to deever said:

The politician-

We need more glasses

Must be a conservative. A bottle in each hand would usually be the order of the day. 

4 hours ago, leave it to deever said:

Demonlandist: my glasses are broken

10 hours ago, praha said:

Still reckon we should have taken Wines ahead of Toumpas.

Yes but we didn't and two years later ended up with Kennedy. Things could always be worse!

7 hours ago, leave it to deever said:

Chemist: That glass is half full of a mixture of alcohol, sugars, and water; and half full of a mixture of oxygen, nitrogen, and other gases.