The Jesse Hogan Panic Room - all contract talk here

[TheoX 1,218]

1 hour ago, Abe said:

No chance, hasn't played all year, Mark my words the deal will be equal to a third round pick at most. Freo don't have a second round pick this year and there is no chance they're going to part with a top 10 pick unless GWS want to throw in Jonothan Patton or something else into the deal.

He's contracted for 2017, GWS won't give him up for a nothing pick that they don't need. If Freo are unreasonable, GWS should let him spend another year training with East Fremantle.

[Lucifers Hero 37,524]

4 minutes ago, TheoX said:

He's contracted for 2017, GWS won't give him up for a nothing pick that they don't need. If Freo are unreasonable, GWS should let him spend another year training with East Fremantle.

The Academy (and Father/Son) player 'points' draft system has changed the value of draft picks.  Last year pick downgrading proved that the academy clubs only care about 'draft points' not draft pick position.  (Which we benefited from).

GWS have 3 or 4 academy players in 2016 draft.  They have already stockpiled 2016 'draft points' from 2015 and are looking for more in 2016.  So 'a nothing pick' round 3 will be very valuable to them especially as it carries good 'draft points' given Freo's low ladder finish.

[whatwhat say what 20,401]

The astute judges are saying that three or four of their zone - cos it's a zone, NOT an academy if truth be told - are top 25 talent.

 

And that doesn't include Marshall, who seems likely to be pick #1 having been removed from the GW$ zone.

 

It's a farce.

 

I wonder if a Hogan contract extension is the first domino that will see Watts, Jetta and T Mac fall into place, or whether the latter three will occur first?

Edited June 26, 2016 by DemonAndrew

[Skin Deeamond 339]

He's bought a house in Perth...

[stuie 7,374]

1 minute ago, Skin D said:

He's bought a house in Perth...

Ugh. This has already been discussed. A lot.

But just for you - He bought an investment property over there because he got it as a bargain. Have you seen the house? It's clearly not the residence of a future millionaire.

 

[Ted Lasso 17,318]

On 6/27/2016 at 8:46 AM, stuie said:

Ugh. This has already been discussed. A lot.

But just for you - He bought an investment property over there because he got it as a bargain. Have you seen the house? It's clearly not the residence of a future millionaire.

 

Jesus Stuie, he clearly hadn't seen those posts, are you incapable of just ignoring posts like that or are you hardwired to have a dig at every opportunity?

[stuie 7,374]

16 minutes ago, Abe said:

Jesus Stuie, he clearly hadn't seen those posts, are you incapable of just ignoring posts like that or are you hardwired to have a dig at every opportunity?

Right, so that's two posts now that are off topic and purely having a dig at me. You guys aren't seeing the hypocrisy in that?

 

[iv'a worn smith 1,979]

3 minutes ago, stuie said:

Right, so that's two posts now that are off topic and purely having a dig at me. You guys aren't seeing the hypocrisy in that?

 

I think the point is, you seem to have an uncontrollable compulsion to lock horns with any poster who disagrees with you.  Sometimes you just have to suck it up and move on Stuie.  Winning battles won't necessarily win you the war, in which you always seem to want to engage.

[stevethemanjordan 6,952]

5 hours ago, P-man said:

You couldn't just respond normally could you? You HAD to belittle.

 

Stuie's posts are actually now quite entertaining.

Simply imagine it's 'Stuie' from family guy every time you read one.

It's great.

[stevethemanjordan 6,952]

11 minutes ago, stuie said:

Right, so that's two posts now that are off topic and purely having a dig at me. You guys aren't seeing the hypocrisy in that?

 

^ 

Lols. Perfect example.

Imagine it in Stuie's accent. 

Amazeballs.

[iv'a worn smith 1,979]

I rest my case Your Honour.

[Little Richard 5,943]

Stuie's response might have been a bit over the top, but to be fair the whole 'house in Perth' thing has been discussed to death on here already, and multiple people already posted that news in the past week. Could be a good idea to have a quick read of the thread before posting something like that for the hundredth time.

[daisycutter 28,727]

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[CBDees 3,162]

Why do I have to log on from a third world country and be "entertained" by this banter? Can't you guys revert to the topic of the post and open up a new post where you can snipe away at each other?

[nutbean 8,837]

2 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

zika virus ?

[daisycutter 28,727]

Just now, nutbean said:

zika virus ?

could be nut, if you can catch that off a web site then 'land would be the best bet

[Mach5 4,499]

On 6/26/2016 at 10:39 AM, DemonAndrew said:

The astute judges are saying that three or four of their zone - cos it's a zone, NOT an academy if truth be told - are top 25 talent.

 

And that doesn't include Marshall, who seems likely to be pick #1 having been removed from the GW$ zone.

 

It's a farce.

 

I wonder if a Hogan contract extension is the first domino that will see Watts, Jetta and T Mac fall into place, or whether the latter three will occur first?

 

The question I have to ask is: why is there suddenly such a high concentration of high quality kids coming out of this area?
Yes, prospects have always come from the area, and some really high end ones too... but why so many all of a sudden?

Is the quality of these players being overexaggerated by those locked out?
Is GWS really putting the effort in and developing these players better than the traditional states?
Are the junior development pathways in the traditional states poor/under-resourced/neglected?
Is the game easier to learn than ever, meaning prospects need only athleticism, good character/work ethic and decent motor skills to succeed (not necessarily footy-specific skills or game sense/footy IQ)?

This conversation is definitely for another thread...

[Clayton van Oliver 1,727]

4 hours ago, daisycutter said:

could be nut, if you can catch that off a web site then 'land would be the best bet

"Zika-this-shite virus"

[drdrake 3,062]

2 hours ago, Mach5 said:

 

The question I have to ask is: why is there suddenly such a high concentration of high quality kids coming out of this area?
Yes, prospects have always come from the area, and some really high end ones too... but why so many all of a sudden?

Is the quality of these players being overexaggerated by those locked out?
Is GWS really putting the effort in and developing these players better than the traditional states?
Are the junior development pathways in the traditional states poor/under-resourced/neglected?
Is the game easier to learn than ever, meaning prospects need only athleticism, good character/work ethic and decent motor skills to succeed (not necessarily footy-specific skills or game sense/footy IQ)?

This conversation is definitely for another thread...

There always has been a number of kids out of this area, Ovens and Murray and the Riverina are very strong AFL areas.  What I have heard from people in that region, any kid that even looks like they have any ability GWS are signing to the academy.  

I also know that Victorian AFL clubs are getting set for their own zoned academies, with a few client hosting academy talent identification camps for kids 11-15yo over the school holidays.  I reckon by the end of this year clubs all clubs will have these set up. 

[Ricky P 757]

1 minute ago, drdrake said:

There always has been a number of kids out of this area, Ovens and Murray and the Riverina are very strong AFL areas.  What I have heard from people in that region, any kid that even looks like they have any ability GWS are signing to the academy.  

I also know that Victorian AFL clubs are getting set for their own zoned academies, with a few client hosting academy talent identification camps for kids 11-15yo over the school holidays.  I reckon by the end of this year clubs all clubs will have these set up. 

I know a young bloke from Mildura who went to the GWS academy. He now plays Irymple twos. 

[whatwhat say what 20,401]

And a young gun when queried about his involvement with their academy vaguely remembers meeting with them once.

[Skin Deeamond 339]

Sorry I didn't have time to read 447 comments. I still think buying a house in Perth that could easily be knocked down and a palace built means something. Why not buy one here in Melbourne?

[Ethan Tremblay 28,833]

32 minutes ago, Skin D said:

Sorry I didn't have time to read 447 comments. I still think buying a house in Perth that could easily be knocked down and a palace built means something. Why not buy one here in Melbourne?

Maybe he's setting himself up for the future, maybe it's an investment and he's going to put four townhouses on it. Footballers buy real estate all over the country, I wouldn't lose any sleep over it. I bought a house in Melbourne six months ago, doesn't mean I'm moving back anytime soon.

Edited June 28, 2016 by Ethan Tremblay

[stuie 7,374]

57 minutes ago, Skin D said:

Sorry I didn't have time to read 447 comments. I still think buying a house in Perth that could easily be knocked down and a palace built means something. Why not buy one here in Melbourne?

Maybe you should read the comments then if you still have questions.

 

[John Crow Batty 8,375]

55 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Maybe he's setting himself up for the future, maybe it's an investment and he's going to put four townhouses on it. Footballers buy real estate all over the country, I wouldn't lose any sleep over it. I bought a house in Melbourne six months ago, doesn't mean I'm moving back anytime soon.

Doubleview is one of those old  Homes West suburbs which is equivalent to Victorian Housing Commision areas and which is becoming gentrifed due to its proximity to fine northern beaches and the CBD and would be a good investment opportunity. May be a coincidence but I am sure I saw Hogan at a restaurant in the area around February so he could have a connection with the locality.

Edited June 28, 2016 by america de cali