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My 3 word player analysis V Gold Coast

joeboy
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5 hours ago, Red and Bluebeard said:

As in "Do you feel lucky, Punk?", I presume, rather than say `The Bridges of Madison County' ...:lol::)

More like..." man's gotta know his limitations "

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    2 hours ago, monoccular said:

    Watts played his role - took defenders away leaving space.  Not everyone can kick a bagful in a massacre.

    Jesse did much the same, with two defenders.

    Totally agree

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    I counted 5 kicks of Wagner that missed the mark or turned over - most under no pressure. 

    He needs to fix this up ASAP. Do that and he becomes a very solid defender.

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    1 hour ago, jnrmac said:

    I counted 5 kicks of Wagner that missed the mark or turned over - most under no pressure. 

    He needs to fix this up ASAP. Do that and he becomes a very solid defender.

    I noticed more the other 20 good disposals and some great tackles.

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    1 hour ago, chook fowler said:

    I noticed more the other 20 good disposals and some great tackles.

    That's great, But he did directly cause 3 goals by my reckoning. 

    I like Wagner but he needs to fix up his disposal. You clearly disagree and that's fine.

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    19 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

    That's great, But he did directly cause 3 goals by my reckoning. 

    I like Wagner but he needs to fix up his disposal. You clearly disagree and that's fine.

    I just think the plusses far out way the minuses. I guess time will tell. Those great tackles for me were a real highlight

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    25 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

    That's great, But he did directly cause 3 goals by my reckoning. 

    I like Wagner but he needs to fix up his disposal. You clearly disagree and that's fine.

    He does have to work on his kicking but for a guy that has played a handful of games, Wagner is tracking very well.

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    50 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

    That's great, But he did directly cause 3 goals by my reckoning. 

    I like Wagner but he needs to fix up his disposal. You clearly disagree and that's fine.

    It is fine now but will not be acceptable in our premiership window. Fortunately we have a number of players pushing up if josh is unable to correct this. And that is as it should be.

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    46 minutes ago, Dees2014 said:

    It is fine now but will not be acceptable in our premiership window. Fortunately we have a number of players pushing up if josh is unable to correct this. And that is as it should be.

    I agree with his. If he cant fix it then he makes himself vulnerable in the team.

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    On 5/7/2016 at 7:37 AM, 3Dee said:

    Hogan was double teamed all game, very needed and you could tell Suns were overly cautious of his movements. A huge decoy effort.

    I thought he actually played well in the second half. Again, when he was too crowded in the forward line in the first half and after he moved further up the ground he did some nice things and I love that he tackled hard and won a free and a couple of very good spillages. 

    As much as I love Hogan kicking 7 I still have a preference for a more even spread of goalkickers. If a team drops a spare back and double teams Hogan that means that someone else is one on one and the one on one is not the oppositions best defender. 

     

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    20 hours ago, Sylvia Saint said:

    A bit harsh on Tyson again, joeboy. He is using the ball much better now than he used to. Agree with the rest.

    A bit of whipping boy these days.....

    Agreed - I watched the game carefully and he was at the bottom of lots of packs - I thought his disposal was quite good.

    Sometime stats do tell a story  - comparing him against  like for like footballers - inside mids   - Jones has 11 contested possessions, Jack Viney 9 and Dom 9 - and Dom's D/E was better than both of these players. This is no knock on Viney or Jones but tells me that Tyson's disposal was ok on the weekend.  ( my eyes also tell me he disposed quite well) 

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    20 hours ago, JackoTheMuss said:

    No Watts because he was nowhere to be seen! I saw that footage, yes one good play, but he had an off day. Hopefully he'll lift for the doggies! 

    Both Brown and Lynch spoke about it and that he did it multiple times. 

    I'm happy I'd be does his role and we kick 24 goals again :)

     

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    14 hours ago, jnrmac said:

    That's great, But he did directly cause 3 goals by my reckoning. 

    I like Wagner but he needs to fix up his disposal. You clearly disagree and that's fine.

     

    14 hours ago, chook fowler said:

    I just think the plusses far out way the minuses. I guess time will tell. Those great tackles for me were a real highlight

    I think you're both right.  I love his contested work, his work rate, his bravery, the fact he can "kick" and he's a good size.  He does need to fix up those unforced errors.

    If he does he'll be fantastic.

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    2 hours ago, nutbean said:

    I thought he actually played well in the second half. Again, when he was too crowded in the forward line in the first half and after he moved further up the ground he did some nice things and I love that he tackled hard and won a free and a couple of very good spillages. 

    As much as I love Hogan kicking 7 I still have a preference for a more even spread of goalkickers. If a team drops a spare back and double teams Hogan that means that someone else is one on one and the one on one is not the oppositions best defender. 

    Watts and Hogans second halves will be unnoticed to some but i think the coaches would have been thirlled, their movement and presence created space for others which was vital to the win. When you dont set the world on fire in the first then choose sacrafice your game for the benifit of the team and play that decoy role, that really gets a tick with the coaches

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    Some of the hard work Tyson does in the packs doesn't amount to a possession but it stops the opposition from getting the ball out.  Have a look at the game and see just how hard he scraps and fights.

    Wagner can kick the ball ok, he may make a few mistakes, but how many games has he played?

     

     

     

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    3 minutes ago, Dante said:

     

    Some of the hard work Tyson does in the packs doesn't amount to a possession but it stops the opposition from getting the ball out.  Have a look at the game and see just how hard he scraps and fights.

    Wagner can kick the ball ok, he may make a few mistakes, but how many games has he played?

     

     

     

    Sometimes Dom reminds me of a rugby front rower, but not as big or ugly...he's at the drop of the ball and takes the hits.

    If there's something on offer he will give it out, if not he will hold it in for another stoppage.

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    3 hours ago, nutbean said:

    I thought he actually played well in the second half. Again, when he was too crowded in the forward line in the first half and after he moved further up the ground he did some nice things and I love that he tackled hard and won a free and a couple of very good spillages. 

    As much as I love Hogan kicking 7 I still have a preference for a more even spread of goalkickers. If a team drops a spare back and double teams Hogan that means that someone else is one on one and the one on one is not the oppositions best defender. 

     

    When Hogan kicked 7 we got belted. Hogan is a weapon but sometimes he will just have to create space and draw defenders away.

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    14 hours ago, Dees2014 said:

    It is fine now but will not be acceptable in our premiership window. Fortunately we have a number of players pushing up if josh is unable to correct this. And that is as it should be.

    He has played a couple of games for goodness sake.

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