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Training - Friday 29th January, 2016

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1 hour ago, ProDee said:

Frost is a far better backman, but unfortunately it looks like he's in line to play forward for balance/need and take the second ruck role.

Based on 3 games, a bit of a different criteria for Sam than that which you have for evaluating other players is the squad? 

 
24 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

He didn't cop a whack Roos pointed out that because of a finger issue Garlett was not able to do his usual boxing regimen during the break , and as it is a very important part of his fitness plan came back a little underdone

Please Saty, we love/hate having you back. This is one of the latter. A finger injury isn't a valid excuse to be underdone, but it is what it is and Jeff can build his fitness back and still play well. 

1 hour ago, tappysquads said:

I popped down, they were doing full match simulation the whole time I was there. White, Salem, Jetta, Garland where the best users out of half back line.

So Salem played off half-back instead of wing ?

 
9 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

Based on 3 games, a bit of a different criteria for Sam than that which you have for evaluating other players is the squad? 

I wouldn't expect an Englishman who's never played the game to understand.

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I was very much impressed by Jack Trengove who was training on the far side of the ground. The way he was going it looked like he isn't too far off joining the main group. Of course, I don't know how he feels and I don't know what the medics are saying but I didn't see him skip a beat. He was working with a couple of assistants in red tops and I thought one of them might have been Daniel Cross but I'm not 100% about that.


another tragic out at Casey for a little bit this morning, spoke to Petracca for about 5 minutes, straight from the horses mouth, he is a week ahead of schedule will start running next week has no pain, when he first did it, he didnt think much of it, iced his foot then went for a run the next day and felt fine, it wasnt until he kicked a footy that it hurt.

Anyway doesnt expect to play NAB challenge but will play a praccy match and is on track for round 1, in his words, "he will be playing somewhere"

whether that is Melbourne or Casey is not up to him but you would think if he is good to go it would be on the MCG.

I must say he is a very positive individual!  said the boys are really improving and putting on size.  the focus this preseason has been on attack he tells us, expect to see a different team this year, must say got a little bit excited!!!!! Go Dees

51 minutes ago, ProDee said:

So Salem played off half-back instead of wing ?

I didn't see any sort of a centre stoppage so positions were hard to gather, but looked to me to be off hbf. Very composed and classy as always. 

15 minutes ago, demon destruction said:

another tragic out at Casey for a little bit this morning, spoke to Petracca for about 5 minutes, straight from the horses mouth, he is a week ahead of schedule will start running next week has no pain, when he first did it, he didnt think much of it, iced his foot then went for a run the next day and felt fine, it wasnt until he kicked a footy that it hurt.

Anyway doesnt expect to play NAB challenge but will play a praccy match and is on track for round 1, in his words, "he will be playing somewhere"

whether that is Melbourne or Casey is not up to him but you would think if he is good to go it would be on the MCG.

I must say he is a very positive individual!  said the boys are really improving and putting on size.  the focus this preseason has been on attack he tells us, expect to see a different team this year, must say got a little bit excited!!!!! Go Dees

Thanks mate, great to hear.

 
6 hours ago, Doctor evil said:

Went to training Oliver has trimmed right up .not to sure about picking him time will tell .watts joked around wish he would look more serious no wonder we struggle for leaders when ppl like him [censored] around all day

Tell me Doc Evil, was he smiling? Dirty, stinking, bustard. I'm just hoping it was a grimace. I can handle a grimace...but grinning is a spit in the face for the club imo


3 hours ago, monoccular said:

I guess that shows that there is some good in everyone.  Nice tip.

He could freeze Dawes, if and when fit, and Pedersen out of the second tall forward spot.  That would be good news.

You've lost me, no injuries how do we look up forward, how many talls? I think we should only have Hogan/Watts and one other. 

2 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

He didn't cop a whack Roos pointed out that because of a finger issue Garlett was not able to do his usual boxing regimen during the break , and as it is a very important part of his fitness plan came back a little underdone

Jeff came back a little bit underdone and it was similar to last year. He normally does a lot of boxing, but with a finger problem, he wasn’t able to do any boxing. So we’re just getting him back up running and he’s one that we all believe can go to another level again in 2016, as we all saw what an impact player he was in 2015.” – Paul Roos

 

Thats a slight whack to me "Jeff came back a little bit underdone and it was similar to last year."

just because you can't box does not mean you can't run, swim, ride etc. no professional player with a finger injury should come back unfit. 

34 minutes ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

You've lost me, no injuries how do we look up forward, how many talls? I think we should only have Hogan/Watts and one other. 

Howdy Gremlins,

I think that's what he meant  -  tall forwards = Hogan, Frost & Watts.

(thank you all reporters  -  great reading)

 

 

2 hours ago, ProDee said:

I wouldn't expect an Englishman who's never played the game to understand.

How hurtful, must be the spectator with the most footy related injuries ever     actually chap played in 3 states all at amateur level   taught how to play by an RSM   having started to watch the game in 1977 so might be able to proffer an opinion or 3

 

36 minutes ago, Gorgoroth said:

Jeff came back a little bit underdone and it was similar to last year. He normally does a lot of boxing, but with a finger problem, he wasn’t able to do any boxing. So we’re just getting him back up running and he’s one that we all believe can go to another level again in 2016, as we all saw what an impact player he was in 2015.” – Paul Roos

 

Thats a slight whack to me "Jeff came back a little bit underdone and it was similar to last year."

just because you can't box does not mean you can't run, swim, ride etc. no professional player with a finger injury should come back unfit. 

Dear dear me   Jeff had an issue at the start of last pre season as well    I have spoken to a few of the players who have told me when unhindered Jeff is one of the best trainers at the club   up and running means unhindered   but continue to look for the negatives if u must


Just now, Satyriconhome said:

How hurtful, must the spectator with the most footy related injuries ever     actually chap played in 3 states all at amateur level   taught how to play by an RSM   having started to watch the game in 1977 so might be able to proffer an opinion or 3

 

Dear dear me   Jeff had an issue at the start of last pre season as well    I have spoken to a few of the players who have told me when unhindered Jeff is one of the best trainers at the club   up and running means unhindered   but continue to look for the negatives if u must

As if they'll say he is a rubbish trainer to a bloke behind the fence.  Everyone else's points are valid - a stuffed finger doesn't mean he can't do other things to keep himself in shape like the rest of the list would.  It smacks of a bloke who was a little bit slack over the break and didn't so enough to keep himself in shape.

Cheers to the reports as well guys.  The positive is that we are slowly adding more players to the main training group and we have less in the rehab group.  We can't complain with that.

7 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

How hurtful, must be the spectator with the most footy related injuries ever     actually chap played in 3 states all at amateur level   taught how to play by an RSM   having started to watch the game in 1977 so might be able to proffer an opinion or 3

 

Dear dear me   Jeff had an issue at the start of last pre season as well    I have spoken to a few of the players who have told me when unhindered Jeff is one of the best trainers at the club   up and running means unhindered   but continue to look for the negatives if u must

Hi Big S  -  many of us agree with you, so I think that responding to differing opinions only leads to pages of cwap.

Super news about Trenners and Trac.

So looking forward to these blokes reaching full training loads.

14 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

Dear dear me   Jeff had an issue at the start of last pre season as well    I have spoken to a few of the players who have told me when unhindered Jeff is one of the best trainers at the club   up and running means unhindered   but continue to look for the negatives if u must

Im not looking for negatives, I'm seeing reality. A professional athlete should not let a little hurt finger mean he does not come back from break in peak fitness, laziness does.

A best trainer when unhindered should also be the best trainer/rehaber when hindered. When we expect and get 100% from each and every player we may even win 10 games in a season. 

I am no pro athlete but 4 years ago i did my finger actually 2 weeks before we finished up for our Xmas break. I was filthy as i had been training fairly hard and i also started new weights program. Over the break all i did was a mix of Cycling/Swimming and doing a running program at the local athletics oval. To my surprise i came back and finished 2nd in the 3km time trial and set a new PB for myself.

Moral of the story is that there is no excuses for Garlett whatsoever. Plenty of high intensity cardio you can complete with a finger injury.


18 minutes ago, Gorgoroth said:

Im not looking for negatives, I'm seeing reality. A professional athlete should not let a little hurt finger mean he does not come back from break in peak fitness, laziness does.

A best trainer when unhindered should also be the best trainer/rehaber when hindered. When we expect and get 100% from each and every player we may even win 10 games in a season. 

On behalf of JG, MFC & Saty…I'll stick my nose in & apologise completely for that & refuse to ever let you down again; in any of our endeavours…or that of our blood runs alike to RDB jnr.

Love reading all these training reports, thank you to all who made it out to Casey fields on a pretty wet day and reported back here. 

There is a lot to be excited about over this pre season and it feels a bit more justified this year compared to the last few but only time will tell! Go Dees, bring on Round 1.

 
1 hour ago, Satyriconhome said:

How hurtful, must be the spectator with the most footy related injuries ever     actually chap played in 3 states all at amateur level   taught how to play by an RSM   having started to watch the game in 1977 so might be able to proffer an opinion or 3.

Having a kick and giggle in your 20's isn't the same as growing up with the game and understanding its nuances, but kudos for having a go, chap.

17 minutes ago, ProDee said:

Having a kick and giggle in your 20's isn't the same as growing up with the game and understanding its nuances, but kudos for having a go, chap.

Hah!!  -  I'd take that Satr.


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