The Jack Trengove is BACK Thread

[dee-luded 2,959]

3 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Since when does 'every player' has to be aggressive at the ball? Gunston, Hill brothers, Smith, Sidebottom are just a few player are outstanding outside players but not hard and aggressive at all.

We recruited the likes of Oliver Brayshaw Vandenberg Petracca Viney Salem to build the foundation and hard culture which is already showing. They do their best work on gamedays. This culture will grow as these guys mature.

Im sorry but McDonald is someone we cannot afford to lose.

 

 

.....  to change the clubs culture,  we need everybody onboard.  no soft C's. 

 

the Hawks aren't changing their culture,,,   as they'e culture is already hard,   & they play  'one for all & all for one'  footy !

 

you don't recruit culture you adopt it.   Its 'an attitude',  'a belief',  'a desire',  a 'hunger at all costs',   its a 'non negotiable' .

[Devil is in the Detail 883]

2 minutes ago, dee-luded said:

 

.....  to change the clubs culture,  we need everybody onboard.  no soft C's. 

 

the Hawks aren't changing their culture,,,   as they'e culture is already hard,   & they play  'one for all & all for one'  footy !

 

you don't recruit culture you adopt it.   Its 'an attitude',  'a belief',  'a desire',  a 'hunger at all costs',   its a 'non negotiable' .

Can't understand you deeluded there is no random capitalization, bolding, font increasing, font color changing, random spaces.

[dazzledavey36 54,236]

14 minutes ago, dee-luded said:

 

.....  to change the clubs culture,  we need everybody onboard.  no soft C's. 

 

the Hawks aren't changing their culture,,,   as they'e culture is already hard,   & they play  'one for all & all for one'  footy !

 

you don't recruit culture you adopt it.   Its 'an attitude',  'a belief',  'a desire',  a 'hunger at all costs',   its a 'non negotiable' .

Yeah nah

[dee-luded 2,959]

4 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Yeah nah

you don't understand culture, how its built & its real values.

[dazzledavey36 54,236]

11 minutes ago, dee-luded said:

you don't understand culture, how its built & its real values.

Yes i do and going by what your saying i highly doubt you have any clue yourself.

[Chook 15,012]

1 minute ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Yes i do and going by what your saying i highly doubt you have any clue yourself.

So is sitting at your computer going "Yeah nah" an integral part of building a good culture, or is that just you being a troll?

[Wormburner 674]

31 minutes ago, Devil is in the Detail said:

Can't understand you deeluded there is no random capitalization, bolding, font increasing, font color changing, random spaces.

I don't read his posts as they give me a headache just looking at them.

[dee-luded 2,959]

19 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Yes i do and going by what your saying i highly doubt you have any clue yourself.

well I do,  & your way is tried & true  to undo the tough culture...   how do you think we end up soft all the time at this club.  saying certain types don't need to go when its they're turn, like robbo chasing not, or Yze chasing not, or green tackling not, or bruce tackling hmmn,  white banging bodies not,  davey tackling not,  robbo keeping feet not,

 

no, the culture was  juuuust fine  before 2007,   wasn't it dd36.

 

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Edited February 10, 2016 by dee-luded

[nutbean 8,838]

1 hour ago, daisycutter said:

that's just your suppressed judeo-bolshevik prejudice coming to the fore, nut 

I think i should be offended but then again I'm not quite sure..

[bing181 9,193]

6 hours ago, Jaded said:

I love Viney, but TMac is actually correct

It is stupid if Viney gives TMac a concussion, or worse, a neck injury. Then we are screwed! 

Yes, agree.

On the other hand, when TMac is running the ball out of the back line and looks up to see two Melbourne players, Jack Watts (just for argument's sake ...) and Jack Viney, both marked by their opponents, who's he going to kick it to?

You want your team mates to be tough bruisers. Just not when they're playing on you.

[dazzledavey36 54,236]

2 hours ago, dee-luded said:

well I do,  & your way is tried & true  to undo the tough culture...   how do you think we end up soft all the time at this club.  saying certain types don't need to go when its they're turn, like robbo chasing not, or Yze chasing not, or green tackling not, or bruce tackling hmmn,  white banging bodies not,  davey tackling not,  robbo keeping feet not,

 

no, the culture was juuuust fine before 2007,   wasn't it dd36.

This is my last time i post on this topic because

1. I have no [censored] idea what you just mentioned above. Completely made no sense..

2. You have missed my entire point and trying to explain to you is like banging my head up against a brick wall. Im done now..

 

[olisik 4,060]

On 15 December 2015 at 6:30 AM, hells bells said:

Geez he looks in ripping shape in that photo. Somebody put a man where a boy used to be. 

The two things I'm most excited about for 2016 are CP5 and Jack Trengove returning to the MCG.

Can this thread be locked? Usual suspects at it again zzzzz

[Red and Bluebeard 2,083]

1 hour ago, nutbean said:

I think i should be offended but then again I'm not quite sure..

I am wondering what a 'fore nut' is. Is that the opposite to an 'aft nut'?

[dee-luded 2,959]

53 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

This is my last time i post on this topic because

1. I have no [censored] idea what you just mentioned above. Completely made no sense..

2. You have missed my entire point and trying to explain to you is like banging my head up against a brick wall. Im done now..

 

Full contact training is a necessity at times & in our case we need to make sure the soft is well & truly pushed out.  If we had of lost a player for the next 2 weeks 'sore',  then its worth it to instill the hardness that's required & been missing in the red & blue for such big chunks of years,   since Smith the Red-Fox got tossed on his ear..

 

so I hear you fear of losing a player to injury thru rough contact at training...    I say so what,   sow toughness,  is what.

 

[Frank Grimes 121]

2 hours ago, dee-luded said:

Full contact training is a necessity at times & in our case we need to make sure the soft is well & truly pushed out.  If we had of lost a player for the next 2 weeks 'sore',  then its worth it to instill the hardness that's required & been missing in the red & blue for such big chunks of years,   since Smith the Red-Fox got tossed on his ear..

 

so I hear you fear of losing a player to injury thru rough contact at training...    I say so what,   sow toughness,  is what.

 

No problem with losing a player 'sore' for 2 weeks (though I'd still rather not). The big problem is losing our CHB for the year when he needs a shoulder reco.

[hells bells 2,023]

3 hours ago, olisik said:

Can this thread be locked? Usual suspects at it again zzzzz

Did I miss or say something offensive 2 months ago?

[Captain Todd 171]

On 27/1/2016 at 9:22 PM, Coup Cooper said:

Amen.. Could be our Robbie Gray

JT looked really good, bulked up in the shoulders and still has his skills.

 

The only thing he needs to work on is his running and that will come with kilometers.

He is the heart of this club, the middle band of players all remember him being drafted and what he has been through. Imagine you standing there in the square, the ball about to be bounced and you look around and see him, knowing what he has been through to get there. you are going to do the hard things to get the ball and the win.

No doubt about it

[dee-luded 2,959]

14 hours ago, Frank Grimes said:

No problem with losing a player 'sore' for 2 weeks (though I'd still rather not). The big problem is losing our CHB for the year when he needs a shoulder reco.

at the time of posting it wasn't mentioned that the arm was pinned.  see my responses in that vain of TMac just being buried aggressively...  bit pinning arms & driving down is not what i;'m talking about.

[Sir Why You Little 36,962]

13 hours ago, Captain Todd said:

JT looked really good, bulked up in the shoulders and still has his skills.

 

The only thing he needs to work on is his running and that will come with kilometers.

He is the heart of this club, the middle band of players all remember him being drafted and what he has been through. Imagine you standing there in the square, the ball about to be bounced and you look around and see him, knowing what he has been through to get there. you are going to do the hard things to get the ball and the win.

No doubt about it

This is the exact attitude i laugh at

Trengove is not "The Heart of the Club"

if he hadn't broken down he would be wearing Yellow & Black. 

We the Generational Supporters are the Heart & Soul of the club. 

Players are Well Paid employees...

[Good Times Grimes 2,396]

7 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

This is the exact attitude i laugh at

Trengove is not "The Heart of the Club"

if he hadn't broken down he would be wearing Yellow & Black. 

We the Generational Supporters are the Heart & Soul of the club. 

Players are Well Paid employees...

WYL, it seems that you've forgotten the promise that you made the other day:

On February 4, 2016 at 4:43 PM, Good Times Grimes said:

WYL, what are you even trying to argue at the moment? You seem to be going in circles without actually making a point that we don't already know.

Yes, we had a trade on the table that would've seen us get Pick 14 for Trengove. Yes, it fell through. Yes, we re-signed him after the trade fell through. Now he's on his way to recovery and still contracted to us despite once being on the trading block. Anything else?

On February 4, 2016 at 5:27 PM, Sir Why You Little said:

No you covered it pretty well

On February 4, 2016 at 5:31 PM, Good Times Grimes said:

Cool. Can we get this thread back to being about Trengove's progress rather than about why he's still on the list, then?

On February 4, 2016 at 5:35 PM, Sir Why You Little said:

Sure but if someone asks a question or attacks my opinion (which is all it is) i will answer back as i expect you would to

We get it. Trengove was once on the trade table and almost went to Richmond. He didn't. He's worked hard to get himself into the position that he's in today WITH THE MFC, and if he can get back on the field there is no doubt that he will give the club a lift that few others could. 

This thread is about supporting Trengove as he clears each hurdle and tries to get back onto the field. He's a young player who has given everything that he can to this club, and it finally seems that he's in a position to get back to business after a very serious injury that it would have taken an incredible amount of resilience to recover from. If he does get back to full fitness, I can assure you that he will leave no stone unturned to ensure that he gets the best out of himself in the remainder of his career; he's just that type of character.  

 

 

[old dee 23,777]

5 minutes ago, Good Times Grimes said:

WYL, it seems that you've forgotten the promise that you made the other day:

We get it. Trengove was once on the trade table and almost went to Richmond. He didn't. He's worked hard to get himself into the position that he's in today WITH THE MFC, and if he can get back on the field there is no doubt that he will give the club a lift that few others could. 

This thread is about supporting Trengove as he clears each hurdle and tries to get back onto the field. He's a young player who has given everything that he can to this club, and it finally seems that he's in a position to get back to business after a very serious injury that it would have taken an incredible amount of resilience to recover from. If he does get back to full fitness, I can assure you that he will leave no stone unturned to ensure that he gets the best out of himself in the remainder of his career; he's just that type of character.  

 

 

I beg to differ GTG the thread was created to establish where JT was with his rehab.

It was not created so JT could read it and get encouragement which is what I think you are suggesting above.

Edited February 10, 2016 by old dee

[Good Times Grimes 2,396]

1 minute ago, old dee said:

I beg to differ GTG the thread was created to establish where JT was with his rehab.

It was not created so JT could read it and get encouragement which is what I think you are suggesting above.

Poor wording, but if you highlight that entire sentence you'll get a better idea of what I mean. "Supporting Trengove as he clears each hurdle and tries to get back onto the field" is essentially the point of this thread, though I suppose you could replace the word "supporting" with "updating supporters about". Either way, it's not about going on and on incessantly about how he almost became a Tiger, something that everybody already knows.

[dee-luded 2,959]

26 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

This is the exact attitude i laugh at

Trengove is not "The Heart of the Club"

if he hadn't broken down he would be wearing Yellow & Black. 

We the Generational Supporters are the Heart & Soul of the club. 

Players are Well Paid employees...

a very mercenary attitude,  unlike that of the Hawks, the better bummers, or the Catters.

[Sir Why You Little 36,962]

14 minutes ago, Good Times Grimes said:

WYL, it seems that you've forgotten the promise that you made the other day:

We get it. Trengove was once on the trade table and almost went to Richmond. He didn't. He's worked hard to get himself into the position that he's in today WITH THE MFC, and if he can get back on the field there is no doubt that he will give the club a lift that few others could. 

This thread is about supporting Trengove as he clears each hurdle and tries to get back onto the field. He's a young player who has given everything that he can to this club, and it finally seems that he's in a position to get back to business after a very serious injury that it would have taken an incredible amount of resilience to recover from. If he does get back to full fitness, I can assure you that he will leave no stone unturned to ensure that he gets the best out of himself in the remainder of his career; he's just that type of character.  

 

 

All i am saying is that it is humorous to call Trengove "The Heart & Soul of the club" with what went down. 

But of course you can wear your Rose Coloured glasses if you wish

[Sir Why You Little 36,962]

4 minutes ago, dee-luded said:

a very mercenary attitude,  unlike that of the Hawks, the better bummers, or the Catters.

Back in your cave DL.

 deep in the bush away from the city...