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Bloke should be in jail, not selling tickets motivating people how to do things the worst way possible!!

I mean really...

Well if I do recall correctly WYL, he was sacked (asked to resign with no possibility of saying 'no' to said request) and now is basically unemployable in AFL circles. Prison might be a step too far.

And as far as I'm concerned, if you are silly enough to purchase tickets to a speech given by a CEO whose clubs reached the finals 3 times in his 21 year career, you deserve your money being taken from you.

On another note, I would like some bitter Melbourne fan to produce the last installment of Whiteboard Wednesday for the club. It should merely consist of footage of two burly removalists wearing wife beaters and sporting five o'clock shadows proceeding to throw the whiteboard into a skip at the back of AAMI Park. I know Whiteboard Wednesday is old hat but it would make me laugh.

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Well if I do recall correctly WYL, he was sacked (asked to resign with no possibility of saying 'no' to said request) and now is basically unemployable in AFL circles. Prison might be a step too far.

And as far as I'm concerned, if you are silly enough to purchase tickets to a speech given by a CEO whose clubs reached the finals 3 times in his 21 year career, you deserve your money being taken from you.

On another note, I would like some bitter Melbourne fan to produce the last installment of Whiteboard Wednesday for the club. It should merely consist of footage of two burly removalists wearing wife beaters and sporting five o'clock shadows proceeding to throw the whiteboard into a skip at the back of AAMI Park. I know Whiteboard Wednesday is old hat but it would make me laugh.

Sometimes really poor results are needed in order for really good decisions to happen as a consequence ... In other words, we probably/possibly may never have snared Roos if the past circumstances had have been different (or more favourable)

Reading through a few old threads like the one I posted up a few pages back, there were many here and probably many at the club who thought we had zero chance of ever appointing Roos as our head coach. Same for PJ to a slightly lesser degree.

I'm of the strong belief that many of us will look back in 5 years time and be quite thankful that we had Roos for the time that he will have spent here ... I always saw his main role as building a proper list and so far, he's well on track in doing just that ... of course, he needed and needs people to help him do that and we can see that happening as well.

Sometimes the proverbial needs to hit the fan in order for real change to happen.

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Sometimes really poor results are needed in order for really good decisions to happen as a consequence ... In other words, we probably/possibly may never have snared Roos if the past circumstances had have been different (or more favourable)

Reading through a few old threads like the one I posted up a few pages back, there were many here and probably many at the club who thought we had zero chance of ever appointing Roos as our head coach. Same for PJ to a slightly lesser degree.

I'm of the strong belief that many of us will look back in 5 years time and be quite thankful that we had Roos for the time that he will have spent here ... I always saw his main role as building a proper list and so far, he's well on track in doing just that ... of course, he needed and needs people to help him do that and we can see that happening as well.

Sometimes the proverbial needs to hit the fan in order for real change to happen.

I'm a big believer though that we never would have been able to have secured a really good coach or CEO so long as Hollywood Boulevarde was in power.

The reason for this was that none of them would EVER have been willing to lose their position of being top dog at the club by bringing in someone with a higher profile than themselves.

Can you imagine CS or CC telling someone like a Paul Roos, Mick Malthouse or John Worsfold how to recruit players? They would be told quick smart to rack off (though in Roosy's case probably as calmly as possible!)

That's why we tended to pick first time coaches under CS as they would never be able to stand up to him as their profile in the club was not as big as his.

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Surely no one is paying?

I think so and good money google the CEO of the century he's very good at what he does speaking crap.

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I'm a big believer though that we never would have been able to have secured a really good coach or CEO so long as Hollywood Boulevarde was in power.

The reason for this was that none of them would EVER have been willing to lose their position of being top dog at the club by bringing in someone with a higher profile than themselves.

Can you imagine CS or CC telling someone like a Paul Roos, Mick Malthouse or John Worsfold how to recruit players? They would be told quick smart to rack off (though in Roosy's case probably as calmly as possible!)

That's why we tended to pick first time coaches under CS as they would never be able to stand up to him as their profile in the club was not as big as his.

Yep, I reckon you're right ... so, we needed the whole thing to go pear-shaped (even though we really didn't want it to go pear-shaped :) )

I reckon it was round 1 or 2 of 2013 before there was a real shifting of the thinking - we went into that season still primarily backing Neeld (as shown up in that poll) and many were still hoping for the best.

After round 2 following that colossal loss to Essendon (148 points) that change starting happening quite rapidly ... it was like another '186' except this time it wasn't just the coach who was moved on. (Chris Connolly had been moved on just 2 months earlier following the tanking investigation)

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Yep, I reckon you're right ... so, we needed the whole thing to go pear-shaped (even though we really didn't want it to go pear-shaped :) )

I reckon it was round 1 or 2 of 2013 before there was a real shifting of the thinking - we went into that season still primarily backing Neeld (as shown up in that poll) and many were still hoping for the best.

After round 2 following that colossal loss to Essendon (148 points) that change starting happening quite rapidly ... it was like another '186' except this time it wasn't just the coach who was moved on. (Chris Connolly had been moved on just 2 months earlier following the tanking investigation)

What CS probably didn't realize at the time of 2011 was that while he had won the political war at that point, he had left himself a sitting duck. His view of what was wrong (coach was too soft, leadership too unaccountable and lazy, gameplan all wrong) with the football side had mostly been embraced when just 24 hours earlier it had been rejected. As he had won in the manner that he had, it was now up to him to prove that he was right.

History goes to show that he, Connolly (though serving a 1 year suspension was right up to his eyeballs in the initial shenanigans that led up to 186) and Garry Lyon were comprehensively discredited after 148. Without them losing their power, it would have been unlikely we could have gotten PJ or Roos (or for that matter Brendan McCartney, George Stone or even Brett Allison for that matter).

While Schwab won the battle, ultimately, he has lost the history wars. Public opinion is much kinder to Bailey than it is to him.


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Thankfully, I'm not old enough to have been involved in that dance.

My judgement has always been that you were an honest person Rev.

Hmm there is now serious doubt after that comment.

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Well if I do recall correctly WYL, he was sacked (asked to resign with no possibility of saying 'no' to said request) and now is basically unemployable in AFL circles. Prison might be a step too far.

And as far as I'm concerned, if you are silly enough to purchase tickets to a speech given by a CEO whose clubs reached the finals 3 times in his 21 year career, you deserve your money being taken from you.

On another note, I would like some bitter Melbourne fan to produce the last installment of Whiteboard Wednesday for the club. It should merely consist of footage of two burly removalists wearing wife beaters and sporting five o'clock shadows proceeding to throw the whiteboard into a skip at the back of AAMI Park. I know Whiteboard Wednesday is old hat but it would make me laugh.

Hahahaha Gold!!!

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Mea culpa! Mea culpa!! As a good catholic boy I have a confession to to make.

I regret to say that weight of my brilliance has overburdened this site and caused it to be off the air for the last several hours.

BBO did you pizz on the server?

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My judgement has always been that you were an honest person Rev.

Hmm there is now serious doubt after that comment.

The tour was in 1967. I was all of 14 at the time. Also on the bill were Eric Burdon and the Animals, Paul and Barry Ryan, The Loved Ones and The Mixtures.

I swear I have never been involved in dancing of that nature. May the good lord strike me down if I'm lying!

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around about that time (2010) we flogged sydney and took the eventual-premier pies to a draw and 1pt loss, I was hawking to anyone that would listen our future elite, consisting of

jurrah

mckenzie

morton

scully

grimes

watts

frawley

whoops

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I confess to instantly bashing 'page down' on any post that fills my screen and is still going beyond the bottom. Reckon I've saved hours of my life by doing that.

Unless of course it's a pre-season training thread post.

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The tour was in 1967. I was all of 14 at the time. Also on the bill were Eric Burdon and the Animals, Paul and Barry Ryan, The Loved Ones and The Mixtures.

I swear I have never been involved in dancing of that nature. May the good lord strike me down if I'm lying!

. Yep it was 1967 and DDDBMT were the warm up group for Eric Burden and the Animals at Festival Hall. They were disappointing and the crowd totally underwhelmed. the animals were great but played for about 50m. I was only in short pants but still have a strong memory of a disappointing night with a lifeless crowd. However my schoolmates and I thought we were pretty tough going outside to light up and travel home on a red rattler.
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. Yep it was 1967 and DDDBMT were the warm up group for Eric Burden and the Animals at Festival Hall. They were disappointing and the crowd totally underwhelmed. the animals were great but played for about 50m. I was only in short pants but still have a strong memory of a disappointing night with a lifeless crowd. However my schoolmates and I thought we were pretty tough going outside to light up and travel home on a red rattler.

You mean there was electricity then?


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The tour was in 1967. I was all of 14 at the time. Also on the bill were Eric Burdon and the Animals, Paul and Barry Ryan, The Loved Ones and The Mixtures.

I swear I have never been involved in dancing of that nature. May the good lord strike me down if I'm lying!

The suggestion was that you were too young to remember REV

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The suggestion was that you were too young to remember REV

I was both old enough to remember and old enough to make a sensible choice about dance styles. These days I limit myself to interpretive dance moves for my own entertainment only. Enough said about that!

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I was both old enough to remember and old enough to make a sensible choice about dance styles. These days I limit myself to interpretive dance moves for my own entertainment only. Enough said about that!

Wise choice Rev.

Whatever my talents are Dancing is definitely not one of them.

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Brock McLean. I wouldn't be surprised if I tipped he'd end up a Captain. I was also a big wrap for Jurrah and Clark.

Thought that Bailey was going to take us up the ladder. Really disappointed to hear that he didn't push the players hard enough at training - still can't understand how that happens at AFL level when you've got a bunch of other staff members around who have also worked at other clubs and should know the fitness work required.

In 2003 I told workmates that Cam Bruce could win the Brownlow.

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. Yep it was 1967 and DDDBMT were the warm up group for Eric Burden and the Animals at Festival Hall. They were disappointing and the crowd totally underwhelmed. the animals were great but played for about 50m. I was only in short pants but still have a strong memory of a disappointing night with a lifeless crowd. However my schoolmates and I thought we were pretty tough going outside to light up and travel home on a red rattler.

That was around the time of my first foray into the wonders of live concerts... I went to a Go!! Show at the Myer Music Bow(el)l that featured the likes of The Bee Gees (Specks and Specks period), Olivia Newtown John, The Loved Ones, MPD. The Wild Cherries etc... good times

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My only confession......I bought Herman's Hermits records....

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Brock McLean. I wouldn't be surprised if I tipped he'd end up a Captain. I was also a big wrap for Jurrah and Clark.

Thought that Bailey was going to take us up the ladder. Really disappointed to hear that he didn't push the players hard enough at training - still can't understand how that happens at AFL level when you've got a bunch of other staff members around who have also worked at other clubs and should know the fitness work required.

In 2003 I told workmates that Cam Bruce could win the Brownlow.

I don't think that anyone could have predicted what would happen with Jurrah. Everyone that saw him play was awestruck.

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