DemonLad5 1,642 Posted November 20, 2015 Posted November 20, 2015 I am actually not joking here. I think we should take Oliver at 3 1 Quote
daisycutter 30,021 Posted November 20, 2015 Posted November 20, 2015 I'll admit his highlights look great, but why has he not been able to produce like this before the 2nd half of this year? i don't think that is a very fruitful argument dl5 it's more important what you are now and what (people think) you could become, not what you were in 2014 or before Quote
DemonLad5 1,642 Posted November 20, 2015 Posted November 20, 2015 As someone mentioned before, and numerous times before that, he was injured with OP (oestitis pubis) for the first half of the season and took time to get going. Thanks Quote
olisik 4,060 Posted November 20, 2015 Posted November 20, 2015 I am actually not joking here. I think we should take Oliver at 3 We have to if we want him. He won't make it to 7. Parish, Curnow and Weidemann may make it to 7. Quote
DemonLad5 1,642 Posted November 20, 2015 Posted November 20, 2015 Haha I don't know why I suddenly want him so bad. He looks seriously good Quote
rjay 25,424 Posted November 20, 2015 Posted November 20, 2015 As someone mentioned before, and numerous times before that, he was injured with OP (oestitis pubis) for the first half of the season and took time to get going. That's ok but the others in the top end of this draft have been on the radar for a few years now, Oliver has made a late run. Is this good or bad? Quote
Demon Disciple 12,537 Posted November 20, 2015 Posted November 20, 2015 Bontempelli in his draft year took a huge leap u the ranks at a similar time out from the draft like Oliver has. Similarly, he hadn't been one who had announced himself a long way out like a Parish, Weitering, Schache, etc. 2 Quote
Good Times Grimes 2,396 Posted November 20, 2015 Posted November 20, 2015 Year Player/s Team(s) Votes 2015 Clayton Oliver Murray Bushrangers 15 2014 Alex Carr[1]Gippsland Power 17 2013 Jacob Chisari; Ben Cavarra; George Cameron; Josh Scott[2] (Bendigo Pioneers; Eastern Ranges; Geelong Falcons; Gippsland Power) 16 2012 Nick Graham[3]Gippsland Power 17 2011 Alex Benbow[4] (Dandenong Stingrays) 22 2010 Dyson Heppell; Jackson Sketcher[5] (Gippsland Power; Sandringham Dragons) 21 2009 Anton Woods (Northern Knights) 24 2008 Farran Priest; Jarryd Blair (Murray Bushrangers; Gippsland Power) 18 2007 Matthew Kreuzer (Northern Knights) 19 2006 Fortunato Caruso (Calder Cannons) 22 2005 Fortunato Caruso (Calder Cannons) 22 2004 Matthew Bate (Eastern Ranges) 21 2003 Mungara Brown (Northern Knights) Morrish medal winners from the past 12 years. Aside from Heppell and maybe Kruezer, all very average players Fortunato Caruso...now that's a household name. Quote
Good Times Grimes 2,396 Posted November 20, 2015 Posted November 20, 2015 Bontempelli in his draft year took a huge leap u the ranks at a similar time out from the draft like Oliver has. Similarly, he hadn't been one who had announced himself a long way out like a Parish, Weitering, Schache, etc. I seem to remember that the only major knock on him was that he wasn't able to accumulate enough possessions. He managed to fix that, too. He's probably my favourite non-Demon to watch...absolute freak. 1 Quote
Redleg 42,167 Posted November 20, 2015 Posted November 20, 2015 Parish, Curnow and Weidemann may make it to 7. As stupid as that sounded a week ago, today it is not. 2 of them at least could be there at 7, while I believe at least 1 will be gone by then. Francis, Oliver and Milera could fill 3 of the selections between 3-6. Quote
Tony Tea 2,816 Posted November 21, 2015 Posted November 21, 2015 4. MELBOURNE - THE BOLTER Clayton Oliver (Murray Bushrangers) H: 187cm W: 86kg Inside midfielder Ballsy call but chief recruiter Jason Taylor has gone gaga for this young bull. Powerful inside midfielder overlooked for Vic Country but rattled home to win the TAC Cup league medal. Stoppage star who kicks goals and ices the Dees’ glut of talented midfielders. Think Ollie Wines. The twist: The Dees had Darcy Parish in front for a long time and want Sam Weideman to partner Jesse Hogan. Will they hold their nerve and hope he’s there at their next pick. Quote
Tony Tea 2,816 Posted November 21, 2015 Posted November 21, 2015 PS: Gimme grunt, power, size, strength. Quote
What 18,810 Posted November 21, 2015 Posted November 21, 2015 A stoppage machine that kicks goals. I have heard enough. Welcome to the MFC Mr Oliver Quote
ILLDieADemon 804 Posted November 21, 2015 Posted November 21, 2015 In one of the clips there's Parish trying to tackle Oliver and Parish couldn't even hang onto him. That makes me think how is Parish going to go tackling men when he can't even tackle someone his own age? Roos midfield prototype is big Bodied tackling machines, this guy fit that mould. Quote
ILLDieADemon 804 Posted November 21, 2015 Posted November 21, 2015 Haha I don't know why I suddenly want him so bad. He looks seriously good I'm a lot more impressed in his video clips then Parish's, I'm jumping on the bandwagon with you!! Quote
Moneider96 1,045 Posted November 21, 2015 Posted November 21, 2015 Sounds like a competitive beast as well. 1 Quote
The Song Formerly Known As 6,479 Posted November 21, 2015 Posted November 21, 2015 why we suddenly on this train? what has leaked and what source? 1 Quote
Mad_Melbourne 877 Posted November 21, 2015 Posted November 21, 2015 Fortunato Caruso...now that's a household name. Massive EDFL player, really stiff to not be drafted based on his height more so than anything. On Oliver, he just seems to fit the bill of competitive and that is what we have looked to address over the trade period and also the last couple of years. His disposal is average, but kicking it out of clearances makes disposals look a lot poorer. I really like Oliver and I really like Parish so I would be happy to take both. I'm growing on the idea that we will take both with Essendon passing on him with one of their earlier picks. But who knows. Parish/Oliver/McKay. They are the three players I want. Quote
Demon Disciple 12,537 Posted November 21, 2015 Posted November 21, 2015 why we suddenly on this train? what has leaked and what source? That's what i want to know too Quote
Mad_Melbourne 877 Posted November 21, 2015 Posted November 21, 2015 That's what i want to know too Brett Anderson tweeted we would not select Parish with 3. Grain of salt 1 Quote
Ted Lasso 19,586 Posted November 21, 2015 Posted November 21, 2015 I don't buy the idea that a club that has hardly leaked anything in a long while now has suddenly spilled the first draft selection a few days out from the draft. if we take Oliver clearly the recruiting team know what they're doing, personally i think parish is a much better player. Quote
kurtneverdied 253 Posted November 21, 2015 Posted November 21, 2015 Certainly Oliver has now popped up as medias favourite for pick 3. Parish the slider and possibly can get him at pick 7 or best available. Quote
timD 994 Posted November 21, 2015 Posted November 21, 2015 I'd have Oliver ahead of Parish on my limited video footage. Physicality will translate better, agility is better, likes beating opponents and hitting bodies and has the frame to do it. But I wouldn't pick him at 3. 7 yes. 1 Quote
Redleg 42,167 Posted November 21, 2015 Posted November 21, 2015 I'd have Oliver ahead of Parish on my limited video footage. Physicality will translate better, agility is better, likes beating opponents and hitting bodies and has the frame to do it. But I wouldn't pick him at 3. 7 yes. Then you don't get him, as Bombers will take him if we don't. They actually need him more than us. Think Todd Viney when you look at the Oliver highlights. He would be our Ollie Wines, which would stop a lot of heartache for some. He is a bull, but bigger than Todd and who like Todd, can break tackles from the middle and set up play. He can take a good mark and kick goals. Doesn't have the speed of Parish who is more in the Cotchin/Gaff mould. It is starting to sound like if we take Oliver, Bombers take Parish. They need mids badly. That would mean two of Francis, Milera, Curnow and Weideman are left at 7. GC have long liked Milera and also Francis. I think the Bombers have more need of a Francis (a Bombers supporter) than say Weideman, who will take time, but we will see. Can't see GC taking Weideman. So Sun might have it right up to 7. Quote
dazzledavey36 56,340 Posted November 21, 2015 Posted November 21, 2015 I reported a couple of weeks ago that the demons recruiting staff were up here in regional Victoria interviewing Oliver and maybe one or two other bushies player. At the time i thought to myself it was very interesting that we showed interest in him because he was just starting to come into top 10 calculations and i still thought no way would we select him at 7. Quote
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