Just going through our list and was astounded to see how few games some of our players have played.

I know some won't make it and I know other side have similar but I have listed players that have not got to 50 games yet.

Brayshaw (20)

Fitz (22)

Frost (24)

Gawn (37)

Harms® (7)

Hogan (18)

K/Harris (21)

Mitchie (16)

Neal-Bullen (9)

Newton (13)

Riley (25)

Salem (20)

Spencer (35)

Stretch (9)

Toumpus (27)

Vandemberg® (14).

Anyway........Just thought it was interesting....

Quite eye opening and in the case of Gawn, exciting that he's only played 37 games. Is Michie's tally games with the MFC only or total AFL games played?

Django, on 29 Aug 2015 - 1:21 PM, said:

Quite eye opening and in the case of Gawn, exciting that he's only played 37 games. Is Michie's tally games with the MFC only or total AFL games played?

Total AFL games....Has played 9 with us.

Thats ov

Just going through our list and was astounded to see how few games some of our players have played.

I know some won't make it and I know other side have similar but I have listed players that have not got to 50 games yet.

Brayshaw (20)

Fitz (22)

Frost (24)

Gawn (37)

Harms® (7)

Hogan (18)

K/Harris (21)

Mitchie (16)

Neal-Bullen (9)

Newton (13)

Riley (25)

Salem (20)

Spencer (35)

Stretch (9)

Toumpus (27)

Vandemberg® (14).

Anyway........Just thought it was interesting....

You forgot to list all the ones that havent even debuted

Petracca?

Petracca?

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I think the point was players who have played an AFL game but played less than 50.

Quite eye opening and in the case of Gawn, exciting that he's only played 37 games. Is Michie's tally games with the MFC only or total AFL games played?

Michie has played 15 for us, 1 for Freo

Total AFL games....Has played 9 with us.

Hes played 15.

Just going through our list and was astounded to see how few games some of our players have played.

I know some won't make it and I know other side have similar but I have listed players that have not got to 50 games yet.

Brayshaw (20)

Fitz (22)

Frost (24)

Gawn (37)

Harms® (7)

Hogan (18)

K/Harris (21)

Mitchie (16)

Neal-Bullen (9)

Newton (13)

Riley (25)

Salem (20)

Spencer (35)

Stretch (9)

Toumpus (27)

Vandemberg® (14).

Anyway........Just thought it was interesting....

O. McDonald (1) - after tomorrow

Petracca (0)

Hunt (0)

White (0)

King (0)

Also Tyson (50), M Jones (50), Pedersen (52), and even Jetta (72), McDonald (80), Trengove (81) and Grimes (96) - we expect a lot from all these players. We consider Grimes, Trengove, McDonald, Jetta and Tyson leaders. We're hoping Pedersen can play a vital role for us next year. They're all still quite inexperienced.

Just going through our list and was astounded to see how few games some of our players have played.

I know some won't make it and I know other side have similar but I have listed players that have not got to 50 games yet.

Brayshaw (20)

Fitz (22)

Frost (24)

Gawn (37)

Harms® (7)

Hogan (18)

K/Harris (21)

Mitchie (16)

Neal-Bullen (9)

Newton (13)

Riley (25)

Salem (20)

Spencer (35)

Stretch (9)

Toumpus (27)

Vandemberg® (14).

Anyway........Just thought it was interesting....

goes to show, that we still need quality mature leadership on this list.

# also I see that the Swans are trying to get back some trade relief, if they succeed, I saw a rumour that a possibility of Yarran > Swans, for Mitchell > Blues

what if : would we go for a trade of Howe to Swans, for a Mitchell type ?

Michie has played 15 for us, 1 for Freo

That gives me a little more hope for him then, didn't realise he'd played so few games. He has showed some form over the last couple of matches so hopefully he'll bring that in to season 2016.

Our youth have been in Asia this week, according to supporter sentiment.

Our youth have been in Asia this week, according to supporter sentiment.

Oh lol. You're being very preachy this week TGR. Unfortunately, I don't think you can change the attitude/thoughts of the supporters with your incessant posting on the topic.

what if : would we go for a trade of Howe to Swans, for a Mitchell type ?

Where do we sign?

White will be a 200 gamer if we develop him correctly

And it starts next week giving him a game!

Oh hang on??!

Our youth is decent, we have good youth. Brayshaw, Hogan, Tyson, Viney and Salem are quality youth I don't believe we've had since Bruce/Green. So I think we are well placed in that regard, in that we actually have a decent core of kids. I think we are underachieving at the moment. But we need to continue to build on our youth. I would be inclined to go to the draft again, we have another early pick, and 2 possible picks inside the top 25 (along with a Howe trade). So I think we are building upon our youth. Our VFL side has improved, and this should assist in developing and fast tracking our kids.

Dean Kent wouldn't have played many either.

Our youth is decent, we have good youth. Brayshaw, Hogan, Tyson, Viney and Salem are quality youth I don't believe we've had since Bruce/Green. So I think we are well placed in that regard, in that we actually have a decent core of kids. I think we are underachieving at the moment. But we need to continue to build on our youth. I would be inclined to go to the draft again, we have another early pick, and 2 possible picks inside the top 25 (along with a Howe trade). So I think we are building upon our youth. Our VFL side has improved, and this should assist in developing and fast tracking our kids.

We have some good kids, how good I don't know yet but what we have to do is get the players we have playing as a team consistently and with intensity. then we get some wins. From there we can make some intelligent decisions on what type of players we need to keep improving. My point is we have cattle but until we get them moving in the same direction as a cohesive unit we don't really know what we have really got. It must be tough for some of the kids, they are getting very little support on the ground.

Deez, on 29 Aug 2015 - 7:49 PM, said:

Dean Kent wouldn't have played many either.

Sorry....missed Kent.....(32)

Sorry....missed Kent.....(32)

Is it just me, or does it

seem the more games Kent misses the better we all think he is.

Game time is certainly needed for a lot of these guys and I think Roos has been measured and Goodwin is probably pushing him to get the game time in to some of these guys but there's only so much you can do if they aren't fit or in some level of form at Casey.

I'm hoping that Frost and/or Oscar McDonald can play a decent number of games down back next year. Similarly I'd love Max King to jump up a grade but if not some other young tall to show something forward or as a 2nd ruck. Although we're already pretty young with Hogan and Gawn there.

We will always be getting games in to young midfielders and forwards, we don't really have anyone of talent keeping them out of a game.

Small/medium defenders and wingers is probably the spot where I think we desperately need to get games in to Salem and Stretch and keep drafting and developing.

The most important thing is to develop guys to consistently good footballers as part of a good team. Otherwise it's 1 step forward, 1 step back.

How many has Viney played?

Our youth is decent, we have good youth. Brayshaw, Hogan, Tyson, Viney and Salem are quality youth I don't believe we've had since Bruce/Green. So I think we are well placed in that regard, in that we actually have a decent core of kids. I think we are underachieving at the moment. But we need to continue to build on our youth. I would be inclined to go to the draft again, we have another early pick, and 2 possible picks inside the top 25 (along with a Howe trade). So I think we are building upon our youth. Our VFL side has improved, and this should assist in developing and fast tracking our kids.

And not only that, but other than Brayshaw, we have had to manage all of these players because of injury issues at various stages this season.

When that core you mentioned become 80-100 game players, and make up the leadership group of the club, that's when we will know how far away from a flag we are.

How many has Viney played?

After today 48.

Which will bring his 50th in round 1 next year. I think we will really start to see the emergence of Viney and Tyson next year. Both at that 50 game mark and starting to show some real development.

The biggest tick for me is Angus Brayshaw already playing 20 games in his first year. Great development for him and the fact we are pumpibg games into him will hold him in good stead for next year. He will be our starting mid next year.