Established players such as Michie, Riley, Newton and Ben Kennedy? He's just pulling names out of a hat as far as I can tell.

If he keeps trying, perhaps eventually he'll find another Josh Kennedy, but I don't like his chances.

Ben Kennedy doesn't belong in the same group as Michie, Riley and Newton. He was a highly rated junior who hasn't come on as expected. The other three were fringe footballers who we got for very cheap.

That's not to say it won't have the same result, but I'd say the premise in taking Kennedy is different to the others.

MFC and GWS recruiters just marched into AFL House. Tommy Bugg about to become a Dee.

Gubby Allan just said they won't be getting anything done today.

Gubby Allan just said they won't be getting anything done today.

They're at AFL House now with our boys.

Gubby Allan just said they won't be getting anything done today.

Has Gubby Allan ever said anything that wasn't at least partially a lie?

As if you could trust someone whose name is only one letter away from "Grubby" anyway.

Gubby Allan just said they won't be getting anything done today.

GWS have a bit on their plate.

MFC and GWS recruiters just marched into AFL House. Tommy Bugg about to become a Dee.

Source? I'd be surprised if this was our last bit of business in or out given Mahoney's comments about draft picks after the Kennedy trade

You don't go anywhere without good players. That doesn't necessarily mean early draft picks.

So far it does...both the recent power clubs, Geelong and Hawthorn have built their success on the back of the draft, early picks and father/son advantages.

Things may change in this current environment but the reason they are now """destination"""( hate this) clubs are the successes built on the back of the draft.

Video of Mahoney trying to get Grubbys attention outside AFL house.

Edited October 20, 201510 yr by DeeMfc

Source? I'd be surprised if this was our last bit of business in or out given Mahoney's comments about draft picks after the Kennedy trade

Gosh, I hope it gets done today! I'm not sure I can wait until tomorrow.

Tell me why it matters when it gets done as long as it gets done.

Gosh, I hope it gets done today! I'm not sure I can wait until tomorrow.

Tell me why it matters when it gets done as long as it gets done.

Because we've run out of things to say about Melksham and Kennedy?

Ah, got ya.

Light reading on our (soon to be) latest addition:

http://www.gwsgiants.com.au/news/2015-10-21/season-summary-tomas-bugg

Source? I'd be surprised if this was our last bit of business in or out given Mahoney's comments about draft picks after the Kennedy trade

Josh Mahoney's ears were burning....awesome bit of business upgrading to get two top 10 picks!

Wont be done today. But hoping to get it done tomorrow (Mahoney on Trade Radio)

Josh Mahoney's ears were burning....awesome bit of business upgrading to get two top 10 picks!

In exchange for a different two top 10 picks though. Meh.

In exchange for a different two top 10 picks though. Meh.

I'd rather have two this year than one this year and one next (especially given this year's is upgraded)

Really hope we can bundle up all our picks in the 40's for Bugg and 27.

In exchange for a different two top 10 picks though. Meh.

When is a top ten pick different to other top 10 picks?

When they are in the top 3.

And we have that pick.

I will back ourselves to stay above BL, Carl, and Ess at least...

Really hope we can bundle up all our picks in the 40's for Bugg and 27.

Is this what you mean - 43,46,50 for 27 & Bugg?

Would rather him running around than Bail or M Jones and with it apparently being a weak draft I would rather trade our late pick for him

Just to clarify, Carlton just traded (effectively) a second round pick and some nothing late picks for four players (two of whom were top 10 draft picks), and we still can't get Tom Bugg traded in for a third round pick. I hope we are looking to add something juicier in to the deal, rather than GWS dragging their feet.

Is this what you mean - 43,46,50 for 27 & Bugg?

I'd rather do:

MFC IN: Bugg and 26 (729 points - received from Pies for Treloar... eventually)

MFC OUT: 43 (378), 46 (331), 50 (273), 64 (101).

Therefore Bugg = 354 points (pick 45).

from afl.com.au

Just to clarify, Carlton just traded (effectively) a second round pick and some nothing late picks for four players (two of whom were top 10 draft picks), and we still can't get Tom Bugg traded in for a third round pick. I hope we are looking to add something juicier in to the deal, rather than GWS dragging their feet.

I think they were just helping old mate SOS out. To add pick 8 to that deal is like a gift for Carlton. I think it will end up being a defining trade for Carlton. A lot of those players haven't really had a chance to show their worth. GWS have such an elite midfield, its hard for any of these kids to get a run.