Anyone who doesn't get hypothermia and frostbite at Casey is in.

You do realize we pick our team based on who's earning a call up yeah?

Is that based on Vanders form last week for Casey

Is that based on Vanders form last week for Casey

Errrr he came back from injury mate.

I usually pre-empt my posts with 'I rarely post" however, some of the comments on here, particularly this thread border on the ridiculous. Leigh Matthews said yesterday that the BIGGEST problem facing clubs is lack of inside fifties and then scoring from those inside fifties. We won the inside fifty count and just kicked badly. We have won games in the last two years where the opposition kicked badly, had many more inside fifties and lost - Essendon being the classic example in 2014.

Twenty five shots at goal not counting two or three out on the full is good. What lost us the game was really poor forward pressure and poor forward set up. No changes for mine. Unless some of the youngsters are battered and bruised, keep the team as is.

Love how posters are asking for the same players they wanted dropped to be put back it for next week.

Generally I think the selectors have dropped the ball this year. They don't think about match ups properly. Many here said the height of Daniher would be a problem and felt Fitz would be a good selection.

And so it was, the difference between the 2 sides.

As for the kicking what can you say? It has been a problem for years now and hasn't changed.

I'm not sure that Roos has any answers or the fire in the belly needed.

Maybe that is the post match depression talking.

Can't even take any solace in watching the ashes.

I think it's post-match depression talking.

All sides are susceptible to players marking around the 50m arc because it's a wider area at most grounds and defensively you generally peel off to make sure your zone defence inside 50 is covered.

What brought us unstuck, as it did against Pies, is that Daniher and Cloke both nailed shots from outside the 50m arc - a bit like how Neiter used to do it and very hard to stop.

Having said that I expect that Fitzy will come in this week because the resting Martin/Leuenberger will be ideal for him.

But it's a case of horses for courses - I don't think Fitzy would cope with Riewoldt's mobility the following week for example.

If Howe is suspended, it's an easy swap with Tom Mc sent forward early to stretch their small defence.

The other two changes should be Stretch and Neal-Bullen - who just need another couple of weeks back in VFL winning the ball before their next recall.

Harmes deserves another go - albeit as the sub this time.

As to who comes in, I suggest we wait and see who presents themsleles as a must after the VFL game.

In junior footy Tommy Mac played Ruck/Fwd pocket. Cn he do it for a few weeks at AFL level, so a Fitzy can play back?

He also gave big Max a chop out at Casey for a bit there, so he can do it.

Fitzy back, Macca forward (after goal-kicking lessons)!

Dawes out for Fitz to go back, Tommy Mc forward...

If they had kicked 18-7. What would this thread be saying?

"Thank goodness we didn't kick 7.18"

Apart from one complication, in my mind the changes are quite simple. Gawn needs help so in comes another tall. Stretch, Harmes and ANB all added very little so any of them could be demoted. On balance, given it was Harmes' first game, I'd omit Stretch and ANB first, and Hames if another is needed.

The complication is the second ruck position. The question in my mind is whether Tom McDonald can do a Blicavs and be the second ruckman/ ruck rover and a bit forward. For that to happen, we need another tall defender, so Fitzpatrick seems the choice, at least until Frost is back on the park.

My changes:

In: Grimes, Fitzpatrick (if McDonald rucks) or Spencer (if McDonald stays back), Toumpas

Out: Stretch, ANB, Harmes. (If Howe is suspended, and let's be honest, it's a lottery so none of us know whether he will or won't be), then Harmes should stay.

Relax, I'll be nowhere near a tv next Sunday so we are dead cert to win

me either thank to the gods

Love how posters are asking for the same players they wanted dropped to be put back it for next week.

It's the circle of life

In - Grimes

Out - Howe

From Casey your options are Jamar, Michie, Grimes and Toumpas. I like the defensive game that Grimes and Toump played. I really want to see Toump back in the side sooner rather than later.

Errrr he came back from injury mate.

Really where would we be without your guidance, so in your words what would he have done "to earn a call up" based on the Casey game

Really where would we be without your guidance, so in your words what would he have done "to earn a call up" based on the Casey game

He was out injured, he wasn't dropped.

Let me know if you need me to make you a picture book.

He was out injured, he wasn't dropped.

Let me know if you need me to make you a picture book.

I imagine you'd have a library of picture books Stu. The ones you can colour in are your favs I'm guessing.

titan_uranus,my statement :-we need a captain like Hodge, no mention about him personally taking over the position,the reference was about his hardness and would not put up with such [censored] from underperforming players.

I don't get the same vibe from N.Jones.Where is the rant and raving?a fire cracker up their ars. every now and then would help.Why doesn't Nat take his fellow spuds to the icy cold beach for a swim as punisment,tough love required.

Have a nice day Mr titan_uranus. Changes next week the whole team or perhaps Can Can dancers.

Danger game? Are you kidding? What match isn't, well other than most of them which are certain losses?

Danger game implies we expect to win. That's a frankly ludicrous expectation. Brisbane will be rubbing their hands together at the prospect of playing us. We are currently the most beatable team in the AFL, and everybody knows it. As for St. Kilda the week after, they will thump us.

FFS, Brisbane are at the bottom of the ladder. We've won twice as many games as them AND it's our home game. One loss and we're back to Fitzroy-level bad are we? Good old Demonland. We should win, but Brisbane have good recent history against us.

He was out injured, he wasn't dropped.

Let me know if you need me to make you a picture book.

I know he was injured don't worry about the picture book I understand but here without the picture book I'll keep it simple , you had a shot at someone on here earlier for discussing changes before Casey played, from memory it was along the lines of posting changes before Casey played well it is a forum and they are free to discuss as they like, my first post was merely pointing out to you that players can still be named whether Casey have played or not, but that went over your head. And don't bother replying because I don't want to affect the other Demonlanders having to trawl through more pages of you getting into ridiculous arguments over trivial matters

Dawes out for Fitz to go back, Tommy Mc forward...

You have my vote rjay

I know he was injured don't worry about the picture book I understand but here without the picture book I'll keep it simple , you had a shot at someone on here earlier for discussing changes before Casey played, from memory it was along the lines of posting changes before Casey played well it is a forum and they are free to discuss as they like, my first post was merely pointing out to you that players can still be named whether Casey have played or not, but that went over your head. And don't bother replying because I don't want to affect the other Demonlanders having to trawl through more pages of you getting into ridiculous arguments over trivial matters

Hahaha the old "don't bother replying" line hey.... Must be written on that last straw you're clutching for

FFS, Brisbane are at the bottom of the ladder. We've won twice as many games as them AND it's our home game. One loss and we're back to Fitzroy-level bad are we? Good old Demonland. We should win, but Brisbane have good recent history against us.

We were playing a side that lost by 20 goals the week before to Saint Kilda not Hawthorn.

Their selected side had as many un tried kids as ours and still they beat us.

Brisbane only lost by 3 goals to Sydney today. we lost by twice that margin.

It is not Demonland that is the problem it is the donkeys that represent us on match day that is the problem.

they looked good tonight.

Rockliff, Beams, Zorko, Hannely will tear us apart if we aren't careful.

We were playing a side that lost by 20 goals the week before to Saint Kilda not Hawthorn.

Their selected side had as many un tried kids as ours and still they beat us.

Brisbane only lost by 3 goals to Sydney today. we lost by twice that margin.

It is not Demonland that is the problem it is the donkeys that represent us on match day that is the problem.

No need to slander donkeys OD.

No need to slander donkeys OD.

Good point Bbo I apologise to the four legged brigade.