So we are 1/3 of the way through the season. Having so many injuries might be a blessing from a long-term perspective because it gives the club an indication which of the fringe players can step up and earn their spot, or otherwise demonstrate themselves as list-cloggers.

At this stage, I would say the following players may well be delisted at season's end -

McKenzie

Terlich

M.Jones

Bail

Fitzpatrick

Players that may well be traded -

Grimes

Toumpas

Howe

Watts

Trengove (if any takers)

Thoughts?

  On 24/05/2015 at 00:44, Michaely said:

So we are 1/3 of the way through the season. Having so many injuries might be a blessing from a long-term perspective because it gives the club an indication which of the fringe players can step up and earn their spot, or otherwise demonstrate themselves as list-cloggers.

At this stage, I would say the following players may well be delisted at season's end -

McKenzie

Terlich

M.Jones

Bail

Fitzpatrick

Players that may well be traded -

Grimes

Toumpas

Howe

Watts

Trengove (if any takers)

Thoughts?

playing today, let's just see what they have this year at Senior level before running a line through them, shall we?

Give it a few weeks. Fitzpatrick and Watts are important to us if they can find their range. Toumpas hasn't yet done what we hoped to see once he got past his hip problems. Trengove ditto his foot. Too early to tell on these guys, i think.

We stand on the outside, and the players just don't tell it the way we do. Wise-guy negativity aside, we have to accept it's too early for us on the outside to know.

Fair call, that's why I say it is a blessing for them because they have the chance to prove they are up to the level and worthy of a new contract.

Might be a good sign this thread was made BEFORE todays game and not immediately after it.

Go Dees.

Pretty sure Matt Jones and Terlich are contracted? At this stage i'd probably add Jamar and Riley to the list though. Also Max King and Jayden Hunt will both need to show something at VFL level before the season is out.

As for Trengove, i can't see any takers given his injury history. I'll back him in to make a full recovery and become a vital cog in our midfield rotation.

Edited May 24, 20159 yr by AngryAtCasey

  On 24/05/2015 at 01:25, AngryAtCasey said:

Pretty sure Matt Jones and Terlich are contracted? At this stage i'd probably add Jamar and Riley to the list though. Also Max King and Jayden Hunt will both need to show something at VFL level before the season is out.

As for Trengove, i can't see any takers given his injury history. I'll back him in to make a full recovery and become a vital cog in our midfield rotation.

"Gee I am sick of MFC not developing players properly", so let's rush a guy who has had a serious back injury and a 19 yr old who is still leaning his craft, this post is one of the reasons I love Demonland and its posters

According to the demonland contracts thread we have a large number out of contract. You would think delistings would likely come from those out of contract.

The Thread lists the following player out of contract :Trengove, Jamar, Garland, McKenzie, Howe, Gawn, Fitzpatrick, Toumpas, Pedersen, Hunt, Cross, Bail, Riley, Harmes, King, Vandenberg, White.

I think Jamar and cross could hang up their boots at seasons end, meaning we would still be likely to make another 4-5 list changes. VandenBerg will be upgraded, and the other 3 rookies will likely be retained for another year.

There are a few on this list playing for their careers. Garland will be offered good money to stay, and you would think with Jamars pending retirement that Gawn and/or Fitzpatrick will get at least another 1-2 year deal until we figure out our ruck situation . Pedo has done enough for an extension, however he could be on the table for trade. The remaining list changes are likely to contain a bulk of the players I haven't mentioned, and the odd trade we don't see coming.

Howe will likely be traded, I hope he is used to secure an asset that will help us immediately.

Edited May 24, 20159 yr by Adzman

  On 24/05/2015 at 01:31, The Devil Inside said:

"Gee I am sick of MFC not developing players properly", so let's rush a guy who has had a serious back injury and a 19 yr old who is still leaning his craft, this post is one of the reasons I love Demonland and its posters

Yep Hunt and King definitely need more time. Don't think it's unreasonable for them to show something first though - as well as a will to work hard on their weaknesses

  On 24/05/2015 at 00:56, The Song Formerly Known As said:

playing today, let's just see what they have this year at Senior level before running a line through them, shall we?

You can't be serious about bail?

The definition of list clogger.

  On 24/05/2015 at 01:31, The Devil Inside said:

"Gee I am sick of MFC not developing players properly", so let's rush a guy who has had a serious back injury and a 19 yr old who is still leaning his craft, this post is one of the reasons I love Demonland and its posters

Don't recall saying you can lock them in for a delisting, just that they'll need to show something to ensure they remain on the list before the years out. They'd hardly be the first players delisted after 2 years. And that's not just us, look at all the clubs and you'll see a similar list turn over.

Rather than list those who could be gone come years end, i'll list those that i believe we need to keep (will save some time). The rest can be de-listed or traded for all i care.

Must keep in order of appearance on mfc website:

Hogan, N Jones, Salem, Viney, Lumumba, Brayshaw, Gawn, Tyson, Dunn, Stretch, Kent, Frost, Vince, Kennedy-Harris, T McDonald, Petracca, O McDonald, Neal-Bullen, Garlett, Jetta, vandenBerg.

That's 21/44 spots on the main and rookie list. Keep in mind these are the "must keeps" which include draftees from last year (too early to possibly cull). Others not listed will no doubt play a role and some of them will be important roles.

KPD's - 4 (Dunn, Frost, T McDonald, O McDonald)

SPD's - 3 (Salem, Lumumba, Jetta)

Mids - 6 (N Jones, Viney, Brayshaw, Tyson, Vince, Petracca)

Rucks - 1 (Gawn)

KPF's - 1 (Hogan)

SPF's - 3 (Kent, K-H, Garlett)

Other - 3 (Stretch, N-B, vandenBerg)

In my breakdown, it highlights our need for more 'must keep' Rucks, KPF's and Mids that can play in numerous positions.

Nothing we didn't already know. As already highlighted by another thread, fix our midfield problems and we give our forwards more opportunities and can negate our ruck weaknesses by roving the opposition.

We also need to find ourselves another quality KPF to support Hogan, as Dawes is clearly not it. Another good ruckman (provided Gawn makes it) will help handle the ruck load.

Our priorities for draft/trade:

1 - Mids

2 - KPF

3 - Ruck

Edited May 24, 20159 yr by Demon Disciple

  On 24/05/2015 at 02:07, Adzman said:

According to the demonland contracts thread we have a large number out of contract. You would think delistings would likely come from those out of contract.

The Thread lists the following player out of contract :Trengove, Jamar, Garland, McKenzie, Howe, Gawn, Fitzpatrick, Toumpas, Pedersen, Hunt, Cross, Bail, Riley, Harmes, King, Vandenberg, White.

I think Jamar and cross could hang up their boots at seasons end, meaning we would still be likely to make another 4-5 list changes. VandenBerg will be upgraded, and the other 3 rookies will likely be retained for another year.

There are a few on this list playing for their careers. Garland will be offered good money to stay, and you would think with Jamars pending retirement that Gawn and/or Fitzpatrick will get at least another 1-2 year deal until we figure out our ruck situation . Pedo has done enough for an extension, however he could be on the table for trade. The remaining list changes are likely to contain a bulk of the players I haven't mentioned, and the odd trade we don't see coming.

Howe will likely be traded, I hope he is used to secure an asset that will help us immediately.

Jamar Cross McKenzie - retire

Trengove - delist injury

Howe - Trade

Bail - delist

  On 24/05/2015 at 03:57, Demon Disciple said:

Rather than list those who could be gone come years end, i'll list those that i believe we need to keep (will save some time). The rest can be de-listed or traded for all i care.

Must keep in order of appearance on mfc website:

Hogan, N Jones, Salem, Viney, Lumumba, Brayshaw, Gawn, Tyson, Dunn, Stretch, Kent, Frost, Vince, Kennedy-Harris, T McDonald, Petracca, O McDonald, Neal-Bullen, Garlett, Jetta, vandenBerg.

That's 21/44 spots on the main and rookie list. Keep in mind these are the "must keeps" which include draftees from last year (too early to possibly cull). Others not listed will no doubt play a role and some of them will be important roles.

KPD's - 4 (Dunn, Frost, T McDonald, O McDonald)

SPD's - 3 (Salem, Lumumba, Jetta)

Mids - 6 (N Jones, Viney, Brayshaw, Tyson, Vince, Petracca)

Rucks - 1 (Gawn)

KPF's - 1 (Hogan)

SPF's - 3 (Kent, K-H, Garlett)

Other - 3 (Stretch, N-B, vandenBerg)

In my breakdown, it highlights our need for more 'must keep' Rucks, KPF's and Mids that can play in numerous positions.

Nothing we didn't already know. As already highlighted by another thread, fix our midfield problems and we give our forwards more opportunities and can negate our ruck weaknesses by roving the opposition.

We also need to find ourselves another quality KPF to support Hogan, as Dawes is clearly not it. Another good ruckman (provided Gawn makes it) will help handle the ruck load.

Our priorities for draft/trade:

1 - Mids

2 - KPF

3 - Ruck

Lumumba is not a must keep for mine.

We needs gets mids and we will need to secure a top ruck. Jamar is gone and we can't rely on Gawn to step up.

  On 24/05/2015 at 04:51, Qwerty30 said:

Jamar Cross McKenzie - retire

Trengove - delist injury

Howe - Trade

Bail - delist

Harsh on Trengove when we need mids.

Also reckon Cross has one more year in him.

  On 24/05/2015 at 05:04, AngryAtCasey said:

Harsh on Trengove when we need mids.

Injuries aside, he has done nothing since 2011. That's coming up on 4 years. Toumpas has been on our list for 3 and people are calling for his head.................

  On 24/05/2015 at 00:44, Northern Summer said:

So we are 1/3 of the way through the season. Having so many injuries might be a blessing from a long-term perspective because it gives the club an indication which of the fringe players can step up and earn their spot, or otherwise demonstrate themselves as list-cloggers.

At this stage, I would say the following players may well be delisted at season's end -

McKenzie

Terlich

M.Jones

Bail

Fitzpatrick

Players that may well be traded -

Grimes

Toumpas

Howe

Watts

Trengove (if any takers)

Thoughts?

I like it. Sad thing is many don't see Grimes and Watts as fringe players. Last nights game showed they don't have it in them, more than enough chances, must go. I'd even sound out a Lions/Carlton with regards to Dawes, but I think we'll be stuck with him next year.

I thought this thread was in bad taste... But after seeing Bail on the field again, I can confidently say that he should never play AFL again.

Cross is worth another year whether he plays seniors or not, him being a backup/playing coach at Casey would be valuable to any new mids we draft this year.

  On 24/05/2015 at 05:50, Machsy said:

I thought this thread was in bad taste... But after seeing Bail on the field again, I can confidently say that he should never play AFL again.

And again, after the horrendous holding the ball, all he needed to do was tap the ball ahead to Garlett... Cost us a straightforward goal.

He's had long enough and just isn't up to it.

I love Grimes for his endeavour, but those shocking kicks along the boundary line are still a big part of his game.

Bail and MJones must go. Fitz OK for next year. Howe trade. Cross retire. Jamar gawn.

Land a big name mid please.

  On 24/05/2015 at 04:51, Qwerty30 said:

Jamar Cross McKenzie - retire

Trengove - delist injury

Howe - Trade

Bail - delist

can't afford to lose Cross. no way

trengove has to be our project player, our display of true loyalty... he is one worth waiting for, like sheedy with Ramanaskus.

Bail is gone... now

Bail- Just not skillfull enough
Mckenzie- no skills
Jamar- Time to move on from him
M Jones- Need to play quality kids instead of him
Cross- I'd like another year from him
Terlich- Surely gone barrring contract issues

Can't see Trengove traded. Surely stay on a low wage. He's a fighter and will be back.

  On 24/05/2015 at 22:40, kurtneverdied said:

Bail- Just not skillfull enough

Mckenzie- no skills

Jamar- Time to move on from him

M Jones- Need to play quality kids instead of him

Cross- I'd like another year from him

Terlich- Surely gone barrring contract issues

Can't see Trengove traded. Surely stay on a low wage. He's a fighter and will be back.

I think we'll see six go from the main list. Bail, McKenzie, Jamar, M Jones, Terlich and Howe to be traded. Grimes will probably get a one or two year deal on very little cash. At least, that's how I'd play it.