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I thought Dom signed with us for 4? Not sure though.

That will be even better as a new 2 year contract signs him up till 2019! :rolleyes:

Be it to end of 2018 or 2019 it is another good sign that our young brigade are happy to sign up for several years, post Roos as coach.

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Was told yesterday the club has already started looking at tying dom tyson up on a two year extension. Not sure how long that may take but wheels are moving.

Keep it coming, buddy.

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2019

Jones 27,

2018

Brayshaw 19, Petracca 19,

2017

Dunn 27, Hogan 20, Viney 20, Lumumba 28, Kennedy-Harris20, Salem 19, Vandenberg 23,

2016

Trengove 22, Dawes 26, Grimes 25 (RFA), Watts 24 (RFA), Michie* 23, Vince 29, Tyson* 21, Kent 21, M Jones 27, Spencer 25 (UFA), T McDonald 22, Terlich 25, Jetta 25, Garlett 25, Stretch 18, Frost 21, Newton 22, Neal-Bullen 19, O McDonald 19

2015

Jamar 31 (UFA), Garland 26 (RFA), McKenzie 24, Howe 24, Gawn 23, Fitzpatrick 23, Toumpas 21, Pedersen 28, Hunt 19, Cross 32, Bail 26, Riley 23, Harmes ® 19, King ® 19, White ® 18

I would fight to retain the bolded but the other 8 have a bit of work to do.

I realise Harmes will have his chance in the coming weeks.

M Jones and Terlich are prime candidates to be paid out... Especially if Riley, Harmes, and Howe show something in the last 9 games.

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I would fight to retain the bolded but the other 8 have a bit of work to do.

I realise Harmes will have his chance in the coming weeks.

M Jones and Terlich are prime candidates to be paid out... Especially if Riley, Harmes, and Howe show something in the last 9 games.

M Jones & Terlich will not be paid out both are sitting on between $250-300 k per year, that's a lot of money to tip down the drain...

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M Jones & Terlich will not be paid out both are sitting on between $250-300 k per year, that's a lot of money to tip down the drain...

Surely not....

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M Jones & Terlich will not be paid out both are sitting on between $250-300 k per year, that's a lot of money to tip down the drain...

It'll depend entirely on what Taylor has lined up in the draft and what players we're working on to move to the MFC.

We won't delist and payout (ala Evans) unless we think the draft goes deep or need the list space.

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I would fight to retain the bolded but the other 8 have a bit of work to do.

I realise Harmes will have his chance in the coming weeks.

M Jones and Terlich are prime candidates to be paid out... Especially if Riley, Harmes, and Howe show something in the last 9 games.

Fighting for Riley but not Howe?

That surprises me.

I'd happily see Howe go, but he has some currency.

What is it that you see in Riley?

I see absolutely the right attitude, but I'm not sure I see a lot more.

He assists to build the culture we want, but I'm not sure that his onfield value is all that high, his tank being his greatest limitation.

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Fighting for Riley but not Howe?

That surprises me.

I'd happily see Howe go, but he has some currency.

What is it that you see in Riley?

I see absolutely the right attitude, but I'm not sure I see a lot more.

He assists to build the culture we want, but I'm not sure that his onfield value is all that high, his tank being his greatest limitation.

I assume Howe will be shipped out from what I have seen so far.

Riley gives you attack on the footy and hard tackling pressure as a baseline, I am partial to players like that at this club.

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And who is this player so familiar with the money his mates are on?

My understanding is that as a general rule, players do not talk about contract amounts amongst themselves.

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Um, Howe did play well in his 0 disposal half.

Again - admitted bias being a CHF - but he hit packs, chased blokes, got to contests, and rarely allowed Geelong's defenders to have an easy grab and a switch to the other flank (all our forwards did this really but Howe was the focal point at FF in replace of Hogan).

Forwards are measured in goals scored and I get that but as someone who has to kick goals, compete so that others can kick goals, and organise the mess of the forward line - I can tell you that Roos wasn't blowing smoke; he liked the way Howe didn't go up looking for touches or slide off a pack looking for a spill when he was charged with the spilling.

You can tell me it's all just 'to get his value up' but don't be so basic with your thinking around forwards.

I assume Howe will be shipped out from what I have seen so far.

Riley gives you attack on the footy and hard tackling pressure as a baseline, I am partial to players like that at this club.

So, are you saying what we saw three weeks ago against Geelong was a once-off?

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M Jones & Terlich will not be paid out both are sitting on between $250-300 k per year, that's a lot of money to tip down the drain...

but you dont want to punish the club for bad mistakes made earlier. either way its wasted money as they are not good players and most likely neither will play a game in 2016 unless 3/4 of our list is injured

id rip the bandaid off now and free the list up. this recruiting team is on fire with late picks and rookies so the more spots the better


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I don't rate Garland. He has ok skills and is a decent kick, but I believe we look a much better team without him playing.

One of our biggest issues is our lack of drive off half back. Whenever there is a bit of momentum coming off half back and the ball lands in his hands, the whole game grinds to a halt. Many of our younger players turn quickly and look to move it on. Lumumba also does this (albeit, not particularly well at times), but Garland just seems to freeze, letting the opposition reorganise. It's very frustrating, especially when we start to lose our sting and begin to turn it over. This might have something to do with the "mental scarring" or however Roos wants to label it, but I think Frost or someone with a similar skill set who looks to take the game on is a better option for the team structure.

I wouldn't be disappointed if we looked to trade out. Hopefully we can nab a high second rounder.

Fair call - maybe it could be good for us. We also have the benefit of several defenders too - would probably want a replacement for him though. Tallish who can play small - but has run and carry. H and Dunn only have a handful of years left so need to make sure we have a group of players that can take us deep into finals in say 3-4 years time.

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I think we won't be so active in the trade/draft period this year, especially if the draft is shallow. If Harmes performs, I expect he and Van Demon will be permanently upgraded, and with the return of Petracca and possibly Trengove, our first two retirements/delistings are already taken care of. Hunt has the rest of the season at Casey to show his stuff, and if he does well he'll be retained. King and White certain to be retained on the rookie list. We will aim for a player + pick trade for another good midfielder.

I expect McKenzie, Riley and Bail to be delisted and Jamar to either retire or walk to another club - band 3 compensation at best. There won't be many spots left for drafting - just topping up our rookies.

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2015

Jamar

Gawn

Fitzpatrick

Pedersen

(King ®)

Spencer the only member of the ruckable brigade signed beyond this year but as a 2016 free agent vulnerable to early offers. Are we waiting to see if the AFL will scrap ball-ups altogether in favour of scrums? It seems our juggle may be interdependent on the moves/form of each player and what may spring up during the trade season, but with Gawn susceptible to poaching and Jamar free to walk, we could find ourselves in a bind.

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Rightly or wrongly Grimes is a former captain of the club. He is clearly not part of the list moving forward and doesn't fall under depth player as it seems our kids will be given games before he gets another look in. Would anyone trade for him, I think it's unlikely. Assuming his contract was front loaded are we better off coming to an agreement at years end. Let's be realistic, the top clubs are ruthless hence that's why they're on top.

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