I have no explanation as to why but I just really want Toumpas to make it. ( i want everyone to make it but this kid especially)

Maybe because he was a no.4 draft pick and we are all hoping and preying we haven't stuffed another top pick up.

Otherwise because he looks like a great kid with the greatest smile and warm personality that endears him to everyone.

Maybe because we desperately need a player who can play like he did as a junior.

Any or all of the above.

Maybe because he was a no.4 draft pick and we are all hoping and preying we haven't stuffed another top pick up.

Otherwise because he looks like a great kid with the greatest smile and warm personality that endears him to everyone.

Maybe because we desperately need a player who can play like he did as a junior.

Any or all of the above.

I'll go with this one. If he can step up into AFL like he did in the SANFL when still a junior then he will be a winner.

I have no explanation as to why but I just really want Toumpas to make it. ( i want everyone to make it but this kid especially)

Maybe to make the Wines >>>>> Toumpas crowd eat a few words - stick it up them would be too crude an expression so I will not use it.

Good pics TDI, how did jnr mac end up fairing against Jamar?

Maybe to make the Wines >>>>> Toumpas crowd eat a few words - stick it up them would be too crude an expression so I will not use it.

nah..I dont buy into this whole - "if we hadn't drafted X we could have had Y".

He just seems like a really determined with a drive to succeed and I just loved the way he interviewed after he was drafted.

Still unemployed, so was there again

Another top session, only one missing today was Terlich

Rehab group as such, Riley, Spencer, Kent, McKenzie, Trengove, Vandenberg, Stretch, Watts and Harmes

Bernie Vince and Howe did bits of rehab but also the drills

Spoke to Jack Trengove, next scan this week, jealous of the guys being able to train, but head in a good place, doing lots of work in the gym, did handball drills using his trike, , pic will be on my Twitter Demonpk, along with some others

Chris Salem along with being devastated by Arsenal's loss at the weekend, tweaked his quad a bit at training but it is fine

Asked Angus Brayshaw how he is going, he is feeling it, goes to bed no later than 8pm, already learning so much

Spoke to PJ to get definitive answer on lack of advertising around the ground, it is not allowed in the lease, also tried for some of the Punt Rd edge but Vic Roads vetoed, also congratulated him on the profit for the year, his answer paraphrased "we have to get the supporters trust again"

Big Pencil Spencer has a good mate diagnosed with Leukemia back in Nth Qld, so used his 'fame' and shaved his head to raise money for him, he raised $8000, the human face of footy

Highlight in the full field drills today, Lumumba, Garlett, Tyson, Toumpas and N Jones

For all the optimists, Jimmy Toumpas again killed them in the running drills, streeted his group by 30 metres, drill was start in goal square, run around to halfway, run across the field and back to goal square and then down to other end

Any questions feel free.

Thanks for this.

A few of the lads over at Big Footy were wondering if there's anything wrong with Garland at the moment as he's consistently at the back of running groups by all reports?

Is it mainly due to coming off a low base or is something else troubling him?

Watts has been in rehab for a while too. Anything significant there?

Maybe to make the Wines >>>>> Toumpas crowd eat a few words - stick it up them would be too crude an expression so I will not use it.

If I may speak on behalf of that crowd, we will gladly eat as much as possible.

Saty - any chance you can find out what the next few weeks looks like leading up to and including the Maroochydore trip? When do they stop for Christmas? When do they resume? When are they kicked off AAMI? What are their plans for the Maroochydore trip?

Cheers.

Thanks for this.

A few of the lads over at Big Footy were wondering if there's anything wrong with Garland at the moment as he's consistently at the back of running groups by all reports?

Is it mainly due to coming off a low base or is something else troubling him?

Watts has been in rehab for a while too. Anything significant there?

Yes he is further back in the running drills but he is competing in all the drills. I don't think he has done that for a number of pre-seasons. He is getting fitter and fitter like they all are. He's just not a standout. The Russian, Dunny, Garlett and a few others are back there too.

For all the optimists, Jimmy Toumpas again killed them in the running drills, streeted his group by 30 metres, drill was start in goal square, run around to halfway, run across the field and back to goal square and then down to other end

Any questions feel free.

Hnmm sounds interesting, was it just a free flowing running activity or did he have an opponent to contend with!??

Speed and carry off the HBF is crucial

TMac, Jnr Mac and Howe all run and carry as does HL. What's Frost like with this?

Similarly long penetrating kicks are crucial to beat the flood back and transition it quickly. Howe is an ok kick and so is Jnr Mac apparently. Not sure on others. I can see the Toump playing off hb to help with this

What's Harmes's kicking like?

Frost can run mark & kick, his best weapon is his long hard kicking. He nails targets very well

Hnmm sounds interesting, was it just a free flowing running activity or did he have an opponent to contend with!??

It's training in early Dec. Relax for once

Seems like everyone is training with the backs! Where is Jnr Mac training?

I'm not on the park just yet

I'll go with this one. If he can step up into AFL like he did in the SANFL when still a junior then he will be a winner.

they'd be whole 'club' of such players

I really dot care who they are....I just want them all to be the player the club envisioned when drafting. Even a 50% strike rate would do for starters.

I'm not on the park just yet

slack bastard...now move it or theres no ice cream...ok !!

I understand its early but Garland's reports are not inspiring for a player who had a very, very mediocre season

Is he looking disinterested or is he just struggling

Hnmm sounds interesting, was it just a free flowing running activity or did he have an opponent to contend with!??

There was about 15 in each group.

My guess was that the total distance of each run was about 500m.

The first time they did it they had about a 30 sec rest. Then did it again. They then went and did more drills and assembled to do it all over again. It doesn't matter whether he had real opposition. He was out to beat himself.

He smashed them.

In the time I was there they did this about 3 times ( about 3000m total) a great effort.

I understand its early but Garland's reports are not inspiring for a player who had a very, very mediocre season

No one (in theory) is an automatic selection anymore. About bloody time. T Mac, Frost and Dunn can be the three talls.

These training threads are my favorites. Many, many thanks to those that go and post. Fantastic.

If I may speak on behalf of that crowd, we will gladly eat as much as possible.

I also will be happy to start chewing very early in the new year

Is he looking disinterested or is he just struggling

He is a RFA at the end of 2015!

Still unemployed, so was there again

Another top session, only one missing today was Terlich

Rehab group as such, Riley, Spencer, Kent, McKenzie, Trengove, Vandenberg, Stretch, Watts and Harmes

Bernie Vince and Howe did bits of rehab but also the drills

Spoke to Jack Trengove, next scan this week, jealous of the guys being able to train, but head in a good place, doing lots of work in the gym, did handball drills using his trike, , pic will be on my Twitter Demonpk, along with some others

Chris Salem along with being devastated by Arsenal's loss at the weekend, tweaked his quad a bit at training but it is fine

Asked Angus Brayshaw how he is going, he is feeling it, goes to bed no later than 8pm, already learning so much

Spoke to PJ to get definitive answer on lack of advertising around the ground, it is not allowed in the lease, also tried for some of the Punt Rd edge but Vic Roads vetoed, also congratulated him on the profit for the year, his answer paraphrased "we have to get the supporters trust again"

Big Pencil Spencer has a good mate diagnosed with Leukemia back in Nth Qld, so used his 'fame' and shaved his head to raise money for him, he raised $8000, the human face of footy

Highlight in the full field drills today, Lumumba, Garlett, Tyson, Toumpas and N Jones

For all the optimists, Jimmy Toumpas again killed them in the running drills, streeted his group by 30 metres, drill was start in goal square, run around to halfway, run across the field and back to goal square and then down to other end

Any questions feel free.

Fantastic info. But hope you get a job soon...after pre-season.

It's training in early Dec. Relax for once

Yes. I feel like we have won the premiership already! Hope is a wonderful thing at this time of year

they'd be whole 'club' of such players

I really dot care who they are....I just want them all to be the player the club envisioned when drafting. Even a 50% strike rate would do for starters.

Then you want him to be an A grader, fair enough.

Then you want him to be an A grader, fair enough.

if that were to occur...would I be arguing ??