Can't see him going back to the pies after this. Will be very interesting to see where he ends up.

  On 10/10/2014 at 06:38, Redleg said:

I thought he said his dad wanted the brothers playing at the same club.

I've just read the post about Beams fathers illness severity.

its gotta be a 3 way deal; or its another player we want the pick for?

  On 10/10/2014 at 09:05, adsy said:

Can't see him going back to the pies after this. Will be very interesting to see where he ends up.

after reading further about his dad illness, he has to get to QLD.

Someone on the Trenners thread is stating Beams is close to trade to us.

Even if it happens how the hell would it work with his old man so ill. He should be traded or sit out until he is able to give 100%.

It brings back bad vibes of almost the same thing that happened with Mitch..

Clark 2.0

No thanks.

Makes me really, really nervous that we'd consider this so soon after the Clark disaster.

I think we all wish we'd never intercepted that trade with Freo. Nice to see Neeld's legacy come full circle as a complete and utter disaster in every single way.

i have zero interest in Beams coming to the MFC

Something about him just bugs me

  On 10/10/2014 at 11:24, hogans_heroes said:

i have zero interest in Beams coming to the MFC

Something about him just bugs me

Do elaborate? Is it him scoring 120+ supercoach every week....getting 32 touches and kicking 3 goals.....in black and white.....that bugs me also. Would feel much better if he did it in red and blue though!

I'd like to see Melbourne trade for Beams if for no other reason than to see the massive tanty Greg Swann would throw when pick 3 is included in the deal.

I don't think we're making a move for Beams. It's Danger or someone else that hasn't figured in discussions as yet. I reckon we won't put all our eggs in one basket and keep one of 2 or 3. That's all I can think of - we need to give a few more away.

  On 10/10/2014 at 11:35, Elwood 3184 said:

It's Danger or someone else that hasn't figured in discussions as yet.

  On 10/10/2014 at 11:29, 1964nowMORE said:

Do elaborate? Is it him scoring 120+ supercoach every week....getting 32 touches and kicking 3 goals.....in black and white.....that bugs me also. Would feel much better if he did it in red and blue though!

Or is it the extra 5 - 10 possessions Jones and Tyson will each get because the opposition sends their best tagger to Beams?

If we make that play for Beams, we will have another Clark on our hands. We do not need to be a stepping stone for players, we need to be the destination. Beams will wait out the year at the pies then go to the Lions.

Stevo mentioned tonight on 7 dont discount melbourne going after beams and may involve there pick 3. No way should we do that. I just know he will want to go back home.

  On 10/10/2014 at 11:35, pantaloons said:

I'd like to see Melbourne trade for Beams if for no other reason than to see the massive tanty Greg Swann would throw when pick 3 is included in the deal.

There's a rather delicious irony if the priori...Frawley compo pick secures us Beams and [censored] over Swann, especially after his little tanty the other week.

  On 10/10/2014 at 11:40, Strapping Young Lad said:

If we make that play for Beams, we will have another Clark on our hands. We do not need to be a stepping stone for players, we need to be the destination. Beams will wait out the year at the pies then go to the Lions.

What exactly would be the Lions plan next year to trade him in? They'll have picks with worse currency and will still refuse to trade any players to Collingwood for him.

He won't make it through the PSD to them, and if he does, Collingwood are giving him up for nothing?

  On 10/10/2014 at 11:37, hogans_heroes said:

No chance. The last thing GWS want now is draft picks; they want senior players.

  On 10/10/2014 at 11:49, Lamashtu said:

What exactly would be the Lions plan next year to trade him in? They'll have picks with worse currency and will still refuse to trade any players to Collingwood for him.

He won't make it through the PSD to them, and if he does, Collingwood are giving him up for nothing?

AFLPA are pushing to get the time limit lowered for free agency. He will be the poster boy for this cause, sick dad a club that doesn't play nice and Geelongs example of helping a player on compassionate grounds. That and Brisbane will make it happen and get the picks need to make the trade. His management will work the same angles as Ryder's and apply public pressure. Could you imagine the public views of the filth if Beam's father dies. The pies would become bigger social pariah's than the already are, and that would be quite a feat even for them.

Edited October 10, 201410 yr by Strapping Young Lad

Can't see why Beams is Clark 2.0. Different person, different brain, different personal circumstances.

I'm all for learning from the past, but the only thing to learn from that particular past is that Clark is a douche. The rest is irrelevant.

Those who had Beams in their supercoach sides and watched him closely - will be happy to see this trade happen.

Footballers footballer. Goal kicking midfielder, gets his ball on the inside and out. I thought he was Collingwoods best this year.

Exceptional player and extremely unlikely pick 3 would become half the player Beams is.

Edited October 10, 201410 yr by KingDingAling

  On 10/10/2014 at 12:16, Nasher said:

Can't see why Beams is Clark 2.0. Different person, different brain, different personal circumstances.

I'm all for learning from the past, but the only thing to learn from that particular past is that Clark is a [censored]. The rest is irrelevant.

There's a lot to be said about the character of a guy who chooses money over family.

  On 10/10/2014 at 13:10, Jaded said:

There's a lot to be said about the character of a guy who chooses money over family.

And that became abundantly clear over the last month.

  On 10/10/2014 at 13:10, Jaded said:

There's a lot to be said about the character of a guy who chooses money over family.

None of us know the exact situation, I wouldn't be too quick to judge.

These are professional footballers, with a short career that could be ended every time they step onto the field. I don't begrudge them their right to maximise their income.

In any case, not sure what more Beams could have done to get to Brisbane?

But now the cat's out of the bag, hard to see him going back either - though Dustin Martin tried his hardest to leave Richmond and had to eventually back down. On that note, will be interesting to see who calls whose bluff re Griffin/dogs.

  On 10/10/2014 at 12:16, Nasher said:

Can't see why Beams is Clark 2.0. Different person, different brain, different personal circumstances.

I'm all for learning from the past, but the only thing to learn from that particular past is that Clark is a [censored]. The rest is irrelevant.

I posted this on the Trengove thread and personal circumstances are slightly different but

• Clark wanted to return to Perth due to homesickness and a sick relative
• Beams wants to return to Qld due to a sick father
• Clark made an 11th hour change of heart due to more money being thrown at him
• Beams father is still sick nothing has changed
• AAMI Park and the Westpac Centre are the same distance form Qld
• The Suns play in Qld but Paul Connors has told them Beams wants to play in Brisbane
• Brisbane have more money in their salary cap and have offered a large pay increase to Beams
• Gold Coast do not have as much salary cap room and the offer to Beams would not be as large
• Beams father lives closer to the Gold Coast then he does to Brisbane
• and Beams father is still sick, if my father was sick the Pies would trade me because they would already have been told I would sit the year out and spend it with my father as I would forever regret not spending that valuable time with him

and I don't care what money they pay me it can't by that valuable time