Need to use all three picks and take the best we can. I would still expect StKilda may still do a deal with GWS, GWS is kinda fond of taking the best picks so will probably be prepared to swap 4 and 7 for 1. That will still leave Stkilda at least one tall forward to take with 4 and a second top 10 pick.

I get that we couldn't do anything with 2 and 3 but what is going to happen with 23 surely we would prefer someone ready made than go to the draft with that?

Pick 23 = Nakia Cockatoo

The deal didn't get signed off. Mahoney has been booked in to go on SEN for 5 days, hoping to make an announcement. Looks like the deal didn't get sorted. I will always back my source in, but apologies.

I was right about Frawley and Vince well in advance, 2/3 isn't too bad.

Can you reveal what the proposed deal was??? Just to rub salt in the wound.

I still don't believe the internet rumours from Ryan Dee & GNF.

For the last week, all I have heard is we will be going to the draft.

Good onya lads for trying, but I think this trade period will have killed off any hope of people believing anything again.

Good news I think!

Going to the draft this year with 2, 3 & 23... Awesome!

Free agent attack next year. I think the Dee's have there timing correct.

If we can get a full season out of Hogan, Lumumba, Garlett, Frost, Toumpas, Gawn we will take some big steps. Especially if our Pick 2 & 3 can play 15+ games next year...

Go Dee's!

Does anyone know what the overall quality of this years draft group is supposed to be like? Superdraft or 2003?

In terms of how we will be placed next season, we may still struggle, but it's not the same squad. We've picked up two players who are best 22 and add a new dimension to the side in their own right. We also see another year's development placed into the youngsters who are trending towards lifting another gear very soon - Viney, Kent etc. I still see getting out of the bottom four as a reasonable expectation and pass mark.

Maybe it's the delusional Melbourne supporter in me, but I'm genuinely excited at the prospect of taking picks 2 and 3 into the draft. With those two picks we have the potential to assemble a core group of youngsters consisting of Viney ©, Tyson (VC), Hogan, Salem, Toumpas, Petracca, Brayshaw, Kennedy-Harris, Kent, Stretch and Michie.

If we do things right this time, we can become a real force to be reckoned with.

If the saints dont pick petracca they have rocks in their heads.

In terms of how we will be placed next season, we may still struggle, but it's not the same squad. We've picked up two players who are best 22 and add a new dimension to the side in their own right. We also see another year's development placed into the youngsters who are trending towards lifting another gear very soon - Viney, Kent etc. I still see getting out of the bottom four as a reasonable expectation and pass mark.

Maybe it's the delusional Melbourne supporter in me, but I'm genuinely excited at the prospect of taking picks 2 and 3 into the draft. With those two picks we have the potential to assemble a core group of youngsters consisting of Viney ©, Tyson (VC), Hogan, Salem, Toumpas, Petracca, Brayshaw, Kennedy-Harris, Kent, Stretch and Michie.

If we do things right this time, we can become a real force to be reckoned with.

I usually agree with you, but I honestly want to know who people think we'll pass next year? I will be astounded if we finish outside the bottom-two

Does anyone know what the overall quality of this years draft group is supposed to be like? Superdraft or 2003?

Very average,

Picks 5-20 are all the same

Petracca is only 1 because hes the best midfielder, not comparable to other #1's

Wright and McCartin and had big opportunity to establish themselves as dominant KPP's ahead of the rest of the draft and didnt take it

I usually agree with you, but I honestly want to know who people think we'll pass next year? I will be astounded if we finish outside the bottom-two

If you look at the teams in Victoria, we are actually closer to them than we think.

Bulldogs have lost a few and, while they may still keep Griffen, they haven't improved much. Carlton are still so-so, Pies have lost two key players, Bombers may only be able to field half a team, Saints are still poor, Tigers are middle of the road.... if we get the improvement in the current crop we can go past some. But it's still a big if!

Where's RD?

Not that I believed him, but an explanation is now required from him on today's non happenings

very likely the deal fell through IMO

not having P-12 would throw a real spanner in the machinations.

Does anyone know what the overall quality of this years draft group is supposed to be like? Superdraft or 2003?

Definitely not a super draft, i reckon it is quite a shallow draft, with good kids up until around pick 30ish, but after that it falls away. The top end talent whilst good, doesn't rival some of the previous drafts.

Very average,

Picks 5-20 are all the same

Petracca is only 1 because hes the best midfielder, not comparable to other #1's

Wright and McCartin and had big opportunity to establish themselves as dominant KPP's ahead of the rest of the draft and didnt take it

This draft was being billed as a quality talls draft this time last year, but none took a step up and a few took steps back. So much so that Lever who was out the entire year with a knee reco, is still considered to be one of the best talls available.

If you look at the teams in Victoria, we are actually closer to them than we think.

Bulldogs have lost a few and, while they may still keep Griffen, they haven't improved much. Carlton are still so-so, Pies have lost two key players, Bombers may only be able to field half a team, Saints are still poor, Tigers are middle of the road.... if we get the improvement in the current crop we can go past some. But it's still a big if!

I hang my hat on the fact we were leading into the last quarter in 9 games last year that we lost. Our list is no worse than last year with our only loss being Frawley for the net gain of Lumumba, Gartlett and hopefully some impact from Hogan. One more year of decent coaching from Roos and co.

I need to go into the season with some optimism.

I think I am all optimismed out tbh.

I think we r going to have another fruitless (or insert word of choice) season.

Gotta keep tryin to convince the kids that we will come good one day.

FMD.

The deal didn't get signed off. Mahoney has been booked in to go on SEN for 5 days, hoping to make an announcement. Looks like the deal didn't get sorted. I will always back my source in, but apologies.

I was right about Frawley and Vince well in advance, 2/3 isn't too bad.

Not signed off by who??? Us (unlikely), them (more likely), or the other possibility would be the AFL!!!!

Edited October 15, 201410 yr by pm24

I usually agree with you, but I honestly want to know who people think we'll pass next year? I will be astounded if we finish outside the bottom-two

We finish bottom two and Roos will have failed, thus far. I don't think we will. We convert all those half chances into wins in the first half of the season and this would be a different discussion.

Aim should be out of the bottom four. Anything less will be a disappointment for mine.

My tip for who we finish above: Saints, Dogs, Carlton, GWS

So we will most likely walk away at 2pm tomorrow with

Premiership hard running HBF

goal kicking small forward

key Back

Picks 2,3, 23 and Stretch plus Jetta upgrade

And we lose

Frawley, Clark, Byrnes, Nicholson, Clisby and most likely Blease, Strauss and Tapscott

8 changes to our senior list.

Edited October 15, 201410 yr by drdrake

I hang my hat on the fact we were leading into the last quarter in 9 games last year that we lost. Our list is no worse than last year with our only loss being Frawley for the net gain of Lumumba, Gartlett and hopefully some impact from Hogan. One more year of decent coaching from Roos and co.

I need to go into the season with some optimism.

We always go in with some optimism... Give it until quarter time in round 1.

So we will most likely walk away at 2pm tomorrow with

Premiership hard running HBF

goal kicking small forward

key Back

Picks 2,3, 23 and Stretch plus Jetta upgrade

And we lose

Frawley, Clark, Byrnes, Nicholson, Clisby and most likely Blease, Strauss and Tapscott

8 changes to our senior list.

More than happy with this.

So we will most likely walk away at 2pm tomorrow with

Premiership hard running HBF

goal kicking small forward

key Back

Picks 2,3, 23 and Stretch plus Jetta upgrade

And we lose

Frawley, Clark, Byrnes, Nicholson, Clisby and most likely Blease, Strauss and Tapscott

8 changes to our senior list.

People talking about us not doing anything, but they are fairly substantial changes.

WHELMED

I'M

Any further news on Jones re-signing?

Can we assume knowing that negotiations are underway that it's just a matter of time before he signs on again or will it be Frawley mark2?

I would hope if there was an indication that it wasn't proceeding he would be up for trade but the way this trade period has gone nothin would suprise me tbh.

Stanley left Saints. Expect them to take Mccartin