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Would kill for Carlisle.

I was hoping for him pre-draft, but went on to be surprised how good he has been at times at Essendon.

Being forced forward hasn't helped him, but the kid can be an elite defender.

I'd give our 2nd rounder for him, maybe more.

As much as i hate the Scum, Carlisle is definitely worth a first round pick (and a highish one at that).

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Would kill for Carlisle.

I was hoping for him pre-draft, but went on to be surprised how good he has been at times at Essendon.

Being forced forward hasn't helped him, but the kid can be an elite defender.

I'd give our 2nd rounder for him, maybe more.

Would love him if he has a clean ASADA slate.

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Theres the problem, while those 5 guys are quality our midfield only goes 5 deep. The shallowest midfield in the AFL

Roos will be stocking up in midfield talent again this offseason, its by far our biggest problem still although it has obviously improved from the depths of 2012-2013

You know we go more than 5 deep, plenty of other rotate through our midfield

Refresh my memory again how deep is Meth Coasts midfield

Priddis - very good inside and clearance specialist

Selwood - Tagger hard runner when fit in the words of Jack Dyer good ordinary footballer

Shuey - outside runner has been found out can't break a tag

Gaff - as above

Masten - doesn't need a tag let him have it he will turn it over

Wellingham - lucky to not be sent to the WAFL for the rest of the year, overpaid and been found out in a weaker midfield

Rosa - good hard runner who plays mostly on a wing

Sheed - not up to it yet finding the lift in pace and intensity difficult, they are crying out for speed and should have kept their pick last year and taken Freeman, because Waterman is similar to Sheed but an upgrade

Mark Hutchings - like many players very good at WAFL/VFL level but skills get found out at AFL level

Mcginnity - honest as they come but very limited

Prior to 2013 Teams went the hard tag on Kerr & Priddis who would feed the ball out to Shuey and Gaff/Embley and they were exciting on the break. Last season teams changed tact and tagged the outsiders hard who were a lot less effective without the space. They have yet to adjust and they have been found out as a very undersized midfield

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Prior to 2013 Teams went the hard tag on Kerr & Priddis who would feed the ball out to Shuey and Gaff/Embley and they were exciting on the break. Last season teams changed tact and tagged the outsiders hard who were a lot less effective without the space. They have yet to adjust and they have been found out as a very undersized midfield

I've always thought they were going to miss Kerr and they really are. I think we've talked before about his off field behaviour but there is no doubt he was a key player for them and very underrated over here with Cousins and Judd taking the limelight.

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i saw something about Melbourne being interested in Carlisle from the bombers. Would love him!

Where did you see it.

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You know we go more than 5 deep, plenty of other rotate through our midfield

yes we go more than 5 deep numbers wise, of course we do. But we only have 5 deep of quality (Trengove excluded)

Who is our 6th best midfielder?

Rohan Bail? Matt Jones?

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yes we go more than 5 deep numbers wise, of course we do. But we only have 5 deep of quality (Trengove excluded)

Who is our 6th best midfielder?

Rohan Bail? Matt Jones?

Trengove has played more good games than Viney and Tyson. He deserves to be included. He has just been injured.

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yes we go more than 5 deep numbers wise, of course we do. But we only have 5 deep of quality (Trengove excluded)

Who is our 6th best midfielder?

Rohan Bail? Matt Jones?

and answer the rest in regard to Meth Coast they don't even go 5 deep

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and answer the rest in regard to Meth Coast they don't even go 5 deep

I never said West Coast had a good midfield?

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i saw something about Melbourne being interested in Carlisle from the bombers. Would love him!

Decent player. Essendon have stuffed him around. They should have kept him back instead of playing funny buggers and throwing him forward...and then back...and then forward...and then back.

I have two questions for you, JVFP. 1) Why would we need him? 2) Where did you hear it? :P

I wouldn't say no, but if it was at the expense of improving our midfield, I'd question the decision.

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Apparently a few clubs have put feelers out for Griffiths from Richmond who has had injury problems in the past and now is struggling to get a game over there. Could be handy as a cover to provide key position forward depth.

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Apparently a few clubs have put feelers out for Griffiths from Richmond who has had injury problems in the past and now is struggling to get a game over there. Could be handy as a cover to provide key position forward depth.

He's played 10 games this year, which isn't overly too bad, but he's not a great player. Big bodied but that's about it.

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He's played 10 games this year, which isn't overly too bad, but he's not a great player. Big bodied but that's about it.

booming kick.

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I never said West Coast had a good midfield?

But you said we had the worst midfield in the AFL, I believe Meth Coast have the worst midfield in the league you say we only run 5 deep in quality not many sides barring the absolute guns of the competition go beyond 5 deep. So if you make a statement back it up

I will miss some here but off the top of my head the top liners in clubs midfields are

Hawks - Lewis, Mitchell, Sewell, Hodge, Burgoyne, Hill, Smith

Port - Boak, Polec, Wines, Grey, Ebert, Hartlett

Swans - Hanneberry, Kennedy, Jack, Bird, Parker, Mcglynn,Mcveigh,

Freo - Fyfe, Barlow, Mundy, Hill

Pies - Pendelbery, Swan, Beams, Sidebottom

Cats - Selwood, Kelly, Bartel, Stevie J, Stokes

Roos - Harvey, Wells, Dal Santo, Zieball, Cunnington

Suns - Ablett, Prestia, O'Meara, Bennell

Crows - Thompson, Sloane, Dangerfield, Crouch

Bombers - Goddard, Watson, Heppell, Zaharakis

Meth Coast - Priddis Rosa

Blues - Gibbs, Murphy, Judd

Tigers - Cotchin, Martin (tank is a worry), Deledio

Dogs - Boyd, Mcrae, Libba, Bontempelli, Dalhaus, Griffin

Lions - Redden, Rockliff, Rich

GWS - Treleoar, Shiel, Whitfield

Saints - Stephen, Hayes,


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I still believe there are good players out there who have not come through the main feeders or have developed later. While the young stars seem to be in the draft pool there are mature footballers out there who could play AFL. Examples like Smith of the Hawks and Barlow of the Dockers are having great AFL careers after being given their chance.

These guys are often later picks as well.

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Where did you see it.

It's on facebook....

All these people talking about nothing....i don't know why people bother posting that made up rubbish.

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What has happened to Butcher at Port? Must be injured.

Just looked it up he is not injured. Must not be part of Port's plans going forward, has hardly played this year I believe.

I wonder if he would be a cheap pick up as a backup forward, if our usual run of injuries continues.

I know we need mids but they will come from our early picks or a trade. We still need a couple of talls, one back, one forward and maybe a rookie ruckman as well.

Butcher is big and ready to go and apparently wanted to come home. He is obviously no star but under Roos maybe could improve. Maybe South Australian Tapscott and a pick could get him.

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Butcher can't get a game cos all he can do is mark on the lead and then kick poorly at goal. He does to tackle, he doesn't chase, and he's a horrific kick.

It will be interesting to see where he ends up going in future years.

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Decent player. Essendon have stuffed him around. They should have kept him back instead of playing funny buggers and throwing him forward...and then back...and then forward...and then back.

I have two questions for you, JVFP. 1) Why would we need him? 2) Where did you hear it? :P

I wouldn't say no, but if it was at the expense of improving our midfield, I'd question the decision.

I think he'd be a great replacement for Frawley. 22 year old who has been All Australian, screams star to me.

I saw it on a rumours page about players... i dont take it as credible at all, but no of us actually have any idea who is interested where. So thought i'd just state what i heard.

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I think he'd be a great replacement for Frawley. 22 year old who has been All Australian, screams star to me.

I saw it on a rumours page about players... i dont take it as credible at all, but no of us actually have any idea who is interested where. So thought i'd just state what i heard.

He's (Carlisle) never been an AA.

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