Young Dee 1,303 Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 as am i, but there is no rush to slam him into the side. 10 VFL games minimum for me. I would like Salem to spend the whole year at Casey unless he starts to consistently dominate - same goes for Toumpas. Casey allows them to develop their game and try things that they might not be able to do under the spot light (AFL) - also can provide them with great confidence. Also allows them to be in a winning/competitive culture. I am hoping that both Salem and Toumpas can develop their game to the point that when they come into AFL they will be hard at it and able take their time with the ball/use their speed. Toump should definitely work on his speed (don't want him ending up like Trenners).
rjay 25,424 Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 Let's not mention any of the whatifs, hindsight is a wonderful thing, let's mention Tyson got tagged by an oppisition 17 games into his career, he has been averaging 30 disposals in his games, he will get used to being tagged, he is feeling more and more comfortable as each game passes (he told me). Salem will be allowed time to develop his game and have no pressure, we all know what additional pressure can do to players.......playing against men for only the second time, they played him as a forward, still got quite a few touches and kicked a couple of goals, what's not to like......reason he is being taken slowly at the moment forgot he has a bit of a wrist injury, nothing serious....I always forget the footy bits Toumpas after one game back. enjoying his footy, looked a completely different player at the weekend The modern game concerns me, it can chew up and spit out young kids at an alarming rate Not just the game 'Sat' it appears to be the modern world and as you know it's not just kids. As for Tyson, I was happy for us to pick him up and he hasn't let me down. Will be a champ.
rpfc 29,020 Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 There is nothing wrong with judging that trade. It may be a little premature, but discussing its merits doesn't stop just because it can't be reversed. Imagine if you didn't discuss things just because they happened in the past. What would happen to the History Channel?
Satyriconhome 10,880 Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 There is nothing wrong with judging that trade. It may be a little premature, but discussing its merits doesn't stop just because it can't be reversed. Imagine if you didn't discuss things just because they happened in the past. What would happen to the History Channel?Pwer Personally I find those type of discussions tiresome, the outcome can't change, and it opens the door for the small anti everything group that inhabit a corner of this forum where it is always cloudy and raining
nutbean 8,838 Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 Personally I find those type of discussions tiresome, the outcome can't change, and it opens the door for the small anti everything group that inhabit a corner of this forum where it is always cloudy and raining and the pies are cold and the beer is warm
Slartibartfast 18,107 Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 There is nothing wrong with judging that trade. It may be a little premature, but discussing its merits doesn't stop just because it can't be reversed. Imagine if you didn't discuss things just because they happened in the past. What would happen to the History Channel? Shall we talk about Schwab, Neeld, McLardy and Lyon then? You seem to have changed your tune.
daisycutter 30,004 Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 There is nothing wrong with judging that trade. It may be a little premature, but discussing its merits doesn't stop just because it can't be reversed. Imagine if you didn't discuss things just because they happened in the past. What would happen to the History Channel? not to mention my greatest moments
binman 44,792 Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 Shall we talk about Schwab, Neeld, McLardy and Lyon then? You seem to have changed your tune. You don't miss a chance do you BB.
Pates 9,697 Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 Re: the Jetta talk. I feel we've never really had a chance to see what he's capable of and that's why I'd be keen for him to be promoted to the senior list and given another chance. Remember clubs take mature age rookies every year and that's what Jetta is, it's just he's been at our club all this time and not a VFL club. A second chance would be massive motivation for someone in his position. I see no rush on bring Toumpas back and giving Salem a debut, both their times will come buts what's important is they be allowed to grow and develop without the spotlight and demands of long suffering fans on them.
Machsy 2,858 Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 people mentioning the Salem-Tyson-Kelly trade You have to remember we gave up pick 20 as well which became Luke Dunstan (taken by St Kilda) so you cant mention the trade without mentioning him or at least that we gave up pick 20 That pick, after compensation selections became pick 22 and ended up with Brisbane - who selected Darcy Gardiner. Oops.
What 18,810 Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 Dunstan went at 18 Oops my bad Just double checked,. I was right about it being pick 20 but it ended up being pick 22 cos the compensation picks pushed it down pick 22 was Darcy Gardiner, taken by the Lions after GWS on traded our pick to them After reading all that I think its just easier and probably more accurate to compare it as Josh Kelly vs Salem + Tyson So in other words Ill shut up and admit happily the MFC made out like bandits on that deal
Sambo06 222 Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 Oops my bad Just double checked,. I was right about it being pick 20 but it ended up being pick 22 cos the compensation picks pushed it down pick 22 was Darcy Gardiner, taken by the Lions after GWS on traded our pick to them After reading all that I think its just easier and probably more accurate to compare it as Josh Kelly vs Salem + Tyson So in other words Ill shut up and admit happily the MFC made out like bandits on that deal I like that someone is happy to admit they got it wrong. Well done HH. I was in your boat too about this one. Move over, I'm jumping in with you.
Slartibartfast 18,107 Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 You don't miss a chance do you BB. It depends on what chance you're talking about. If you're talking about the people I've mentioned I've ignored more chances than you could imagine. But I like consistency from posters on their attitude to issues.
Akum 2,660 Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 Let's not mention any of the whatifs, hindsight is a wonderful thing, let's mention Tyson got tagged by an oppisition 17 games into his career, he has been averaging 30 disposals in his games, he will get used to being tagged, he is feeling more and more comfortable as each game passes (he told me). ... Not only that, he got tagged by Carazzo, who's got to be right up on the top level of taggers in the game. It shows Malthouse's opinion abut Tyson's quality.
Akum 2,660 Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 It depends on what chance you're talking about. If you're talking about the people I've mentioned I've ignored more chances than you could imagine. But I like consistency from posters on their attitude to issues. Demonland? Yeah, good luck with that!
binman 44,792 Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 It depends on what chance you're talking about. If you're talking about the people I've mentioned I've ignored more chances than you could imagine. But I like consistency from posters on their attitude to issues. I was joking - i should have used that stupid smiley face or some other similarly daft emoticon but i can't stand them. I also like consistency from posters, though i must say i also like it when posters change their views as a result of logical discussion
Akum 2,660 Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 I was joking - i should have used that stupid smiley face or some other similarly daft emoticon but i can't stand them. I also like consistency from posters, though i must say i also like it when posters change their views as a result of logical discussion This thread's developing a massive cloud of unreality. Consistency??? Logical discussion???
Slartibartfast 18,107 Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 I was joking - i should have used that stupid smiley face or some other similarly daft emoticon but i can't stand them. I also like consistency from posters, though i must say i also like it when posters change their views as a result of logical discussion
Samael 560 Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 Now you mention, Jimmy T was not at training yesterday, easy to forget when so many players out on the track, so no shows Spencer, Toumpas, Hogan, Michie Just on another note, hopefully Harmes keeps developing, he is a seriously big unit, you can see why we took a chance and rookied him, kicks beautifully as well And finally missed by unscheduled media appearance, was wandering around the new Emporium in city, not by choice haha Michie had a plate inserted in his jaw and two wisdom teeth removed. Hardly surprising he did not train. Has now been cleared for non contact training (Wednesday)
rpfc 29,020 Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 Shall we talk about Schwab, Neeld, McLardy and Lyon then? You seem to have changed your tune. I never tell people to stop discussing a topic. What is the point? This is an Internet forum - people can write what they like, if I pushed people to back up their arguments then that is what you are misinterpreting. I have made the point that 'moving on' is healthy but no skin off my nose if you want to Moloko.
monoccular 17,759 Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 Very light duties for Christian. ...especially over the Easter weekend ??? Would love to see Jetta make it... Hope he gets a chance soon. He has had chances, that's why he was delisted. Next. rpfc - yes I would like to see how he goes now he is fit, and has a coach who understands players and footy
Deez 298 Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 if nevs playing consistent good footy, he will get a game, simple as that. the past doesn't matter.
DemonOX 8,857 Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 Re: the Jetta talk. I feel we've never really had a chance to see what he's capable of and that's why I'd be keen for him to be promoted to the senior list and given another chance. Remember clubs take mature age rookies every year and that's what Jetta is, it's just he's been at our club all this time and not a VFL club. A second chance would be massive motivation for someone in his position. I see no rush on bring Toumpas back and giving Salem a debut, both their times will come buts what's important is they be allowed to grow and develop without the spotlight and demands of long suffering fans on them. My main concern is that his vfl form will not transpose into afl form. (Another Magner perhaps) Don't get me wrong I hope he does well but am just concerned about this. Time will tell.
Coup Cooper 610 Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 I reckon a fit Nev Jetta running through the mid field would be like having another Jack Viney. Seems like a great bloke. Hope he gets a go soon. Quite possibly the worst call on this board.
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