N.Jones - never gave up

Grimes - overwhelmed and underperformed

Watts - the bad Watts

Toumpas - prolific but slow

Frawley - always provided contest

Trengove - still going nowhere

Byrnes - tried but ineffective

Tyson - classy and persistent

Dunn - skillful and effective

Cross - prolific and tough

Pederson - fat and useless

Michie - tried but beaten

Vince - tried but beaten

Kennedy -Harris - provided some energy

McDonald - limited but useful

Howe - better second half

Spencer - destroyed in centre

Bail - not league standard

M.Jones - very limited skills

Terlich - loose and lacking

Fitzpatrick - was still concussed

Georgiou - tried against odds

N.Jones - never gave up

Grimes - overwhelmed and underperformed

Watts - the bad Watts

Toumpas - prolific but slow

Frawley - always provided contest

Trengove - still going nowhere

Byrnes - tried but ineffective

Tyson - classy and persistent

Dunn - skillful and effective

Cross - prolific and tough

Pederson - fat and useless

Michie - tried but beaten

Vince - tried but beaten

Kennedy -Harris - provided some energy

McDonald - limited but useful

Howe - better second half

Spencer - destroyed in centre

Bail - not league standard

M.Jones - very limited skills

Terlich - loose and lacking

Fitzpatrick - was still concussed

Georgiou - tried against odds

can't argue with that.

Maybe add:

Roos- needs 10 years.

Dawes- get over it.

Clark- please come back.

Hogan- Great White Hope.

Prendergast- won't brake car.*

*joking.

I'll give you a three word team team analysis-

inept and embarrassing

N.Jones - never gave up

Grimes - overwhelmed and underperformed

Watts - the bad Watts

Toumpas - prolific but slow

Frawley - always provided contest

Trengove - still going nowhere

Byrnes - tried but ineffective

Tyson - classy and persistent

Dunn - skillful and effective

Cross - prolific and tough

Pederson - fat and useless

Michie - tried but beaten

Vince - tried but beaten

Kennedy -Harris - provided some energy

McDonald - limited but useful

Howe - better second half

Spencer - destroyed in centre

Bail - not league standard

M.Jones - very limited skills

Terlich - loose and lacking

Fitzpatrick - was still concussed

Georgiou - tried against odds

You often go over the top, but I think that's pretty spot on joeboy.

I'll give you another-

just pizz poor.

why even bother

My three words...

[censored], you, melbourne!

Ahh, [censored] it.

I'll give you another-

just pizz poor.

and here's 3 more:

[censored] [censored] [censored].

long year ahead

N.Jones - absolute super star

Grimes - rattled and weak

Watts - soft and weak

Toumpas - skillful but slow

Frawley - tough, mistake riddled

Trengove - opposition ran past him.

Byrnes - worked bloody hard

Tyson - reduced by turnovers

Dunn - another great game

Cross - kick it sometimes

Pederson - Casey Fields beckons

Michie - very poor game

Vince - not effective enough

Kennedy -Harris - provided some energy

McDonald - useful at times

Howe - zing has disappeared

Spencer - workhorse was murdered

Bail - really shocking game

M.Jones - horrible decision making

Terlich - man up sometimes

Fitzpatrick - really poor game

Georgiou - bring Garland back.

Cross - Bleeds for jumper

long year ahead

Long decade ahead

Roos- needs Plan B

I've seen a lot of people mention Toumpas' lack of pace but for me it's not that big a concern. He modelled his game as a junior on Bryce Gibbs and Leigh Montagna, neither of whom are what you'd call quick. For him to take the next step I'd like to see him get more involved. 25, 30 possession games I'm talking. He would rival Watts, Dunn, Tyson or Vince as best kick in the team. If he gets his numbers up he'll be a gun.

Long decade ahead

without distinct improvement there is NO decade !!!

Hard to have a plan B with D grade players

I agree mostly with the analysis except for a couple of ratings. I thought Pederson tried very hard. I like Gergiou's endeavour, he is listed in the footy record as 187 cm's the same height as Grimes and stood Dean Cox at times and gave a decent contest. I think he's got the spirit we need.

Again I thought Dunn was one of our better players and Jones continues to lead by example but doesn't get enough followers.

Most Melbourne players barring Jones are happy to let the opposition get first hands on the ball. Is this lack of courage or confidence?

I'm okay with Roosy's game plan however if we continue to move the ball in to the forward line as slowly as we have been we will be lucky to get more than 5 -10 goals every game.

Hard to have a plan B with D grade players

maybe a plan F ?

we'd have that nailed surely !!!

Fitzpatrick - was still concussed

In the few minutes I saw before Fitz was subbed he appeared to be beating NicNat in the ruck pretty handily. You have to give him points for that.

N.Jones - A true warrior
Grimes - Barely AFL standard
Watts - Lacked true grit
Toumpas - Endurance is lacking
Frawley - Too many errors
Trengove - Going nowhere fast
Byrnes - Quick but useless
Tyson - Refined and Trusted
Dunn - Target but unused
Cross - Tough as nuts
Pederson - VFL quality only
Michie - Unsighted and beatem
Vince - Lacked defined run
Kennedy -Harris - x-factor but overwhelmed
McDonald - Useful but beaten
Howe - Out of position
Spencer - Distance to travel
Bail - Was he playing?
M.Jones - Neeld's lasting legacy
Terlich - No run whatsoever
Fitzpatrick - Lacking in confidence
Georgiou - Better than most

I've seen a lot of people mention Toumpas' lack of pace but for me it's not that big a concern. He modelled his game as a junior on Bryce Gibbs and Leigh Montagna, neither of whom are what you'd call quick. For him to take the next step I'd like to see him get more involved. 25, 30 possession games I'm talking. He would rival Watts, Dunn, Tyson or Vince as best kick in the team. If he gets his numbers up he'll be a gun.

Problem is he seems to run so slowly that his opponents just run the ball out of defence and he doesn't gain a singe bit of ground on them. They literally could run from one end to the other if Toumpas doesn't get a chop out. Usually you see the bloke with the ball in hand getting caught up to by chasers from behind but Toumpas rarely seems to be able to make any ground!

I agree mostly with the analysis except for a couple of ratings. I thought Pederson tried very hard. I like Gergiou's endeavour, he is listed in the footy record as 187 cm's the same height as Grimes and stood Dean Cox at times and gave a decent contest. I think he's got the spirit we need.

Again I thought Dunn was one of our better players and Jones continues to lead by example but doesn't get enough followers.

Most Melbourne players barring Jones are happy to let the opposition get first hands on the ball. Is this lack of courage or confidence?

I'm okay with Roosy's game plan however if we continue to move the ball in to the forward line as slowly as we have been we will be lucky to get more than 5 -10 goals every game.

I don't mind the look of Georgiou because he is a 1 on 1 competitor. We would have to have the least number of people capable of competing 1 on 1 in the competition so every person we find who can do this should be playing.

You people should watch more closely. Nathan Jones was involved (and central to) at least 3 turnover goals.

Surely the team total of 11 goals from turnovers is the new AFL record?

Dom Tyson will be a star - our only current candidate for "elite midfielder".

Toumpas is still not quick, nor is Trenners. But both can play. Cross is a dead set Barry-battler.

Pederson and Spencer should never play again for MFC once we have a viable alternatives.

You people should watch more closely. Nathan Jones was involved (and central to) at least 3 turnover goals.

Surely the team total of 11 goals from turnovers is the new AFL record?

Dom Tyson will be a star - our only current candidate for "elite midfielder".

Toumpas is still not quick, nor is Trenners. But both can play. Cross is a dead set Barry-battler.

Pederson and Spencer should never play again for MFC once we have a viable alternatives.

Re Jones - The poor bastard is entitled to make mistakes. He carries the side.

Agree about Pedo but Spencer busts a gut. He was in a no win today trying to take those two big bastards on his own.