Thats such an indictment on the MFC

Every other club has had multiple superstars since then

What the hell is wrong with this club

We have had a few others h_h

The trouble is they get serious injury / breakdown in there first 20 games

Or succumb to their owns ego's or booze

I always thought Neitz was a superstar in the same way Chris Grant was - perhaps not competition-wide, but definitely in terms of our club, he absolutely was in my view.

I thought that Clark could be the same, but alas it appears not. Nate Jones is in the same way Todd Viney was, just a heart and soul player.

We haven't had an actual competition-wide superstar since Robbie.

Depressing state of affairs.

An ugly mixed metaphor if ever I saw one. How does one harp on a chestnut?

You really do read moons posts with a fine tuned comb, don't you.

Maybe if Bernie had kicked 4.1 instead of 1.4, he could have been that superstar we needed on the weekend! Just a thought.

Maybe if Bernie had kicked 4.1 instead of 1.4, he could have been that superstar we needed on the weekend! Just a thought.

Unfortunately each time he kicks a goal instead of a point the ball goes back to the center. People seem to forget this but I am pretty sure if wd had kicked a few extra goals the amount of scoring shots we would have had would be less...

Maybe if Bernie had kicked 4.1 instead of 1.4, he could have been that superstar we needed on the weekend! Just a thought.

man he is an accurate long kick though, he was unlucky with those shots, could have been 4.1 easily, two posters and a mark right on the line.

i was quite impressed despite the end result of 1.4

We have a superstar and his name is Lynden Dunn. We need to sign him ASAP before other clubs get in this mans ear. He is UFA.

We need to sign him yes.

Superstar ? ummm..

Unfortunately each time he kicks a goal instead of a point the ball goes back to the center. People seem to forget this but I am pretty sure if wd had kicked a few extra goals the amount of scoring shots we would have had would be less...

do you mean because once we kicked points, we were able to force a turn over and manage another shot on goal?

otherwise if you kick a point or a goal, its still 1 scoring shot, just get more points from kicking goals.

just not sure of the logic your using?

An ugly mixed metaphor if ever I saw one. How does one harp on a chestnut?

Are you sure it is not a simile, BBO? DemonFrog will probably find an image of this!

I always thought Neitz was a superstar in the same way Chris Grant was - perhaps not competition-wide, but definitely in terms of our club, he absolutely was in my view.

I thought that Clark could be the same, but alas it appears not. Nate Jones is in the same way Todd Viney was, just a heart and soul player.

We haven't had an actual competition-wide superstar since Robbie.

Depressing state of affairs.

I hate the word overused word "star" or "superstar" - we haven't had one since Flower. Loved Neita and he was a true champion of the club but wasn't a superstar. And there have been lots of champions of the club and I am sure Nat Jones will be remembered at the end of his career as that.

Are you sure it is not a simile, BBO? DemonFrog will probably find an image of this!

If he cannot then one does not exist.

do you mean because once we kicked points, we were able to force a turn over and manage another shot on goal?

otherwise if you kick a point or a goal, its still 1 scoring shot, just get more points from kicking goals.

just not sure of the logic your using?

It remains in the 50m arc if we get a point opposed to going back to the center if we get a goal.

If we got goals we may have had less scoring shots consideriny the Saints were on top of clearances.

yeh thats what i thought you might have been saying.

yeh pretty plausible

yes, i agree, but the whole thing is we need someone now to show them how to do it

Haha I know.

Currently at the club Jones and Dawes.

External options? Possibly a few out of Sydney soon in response to the whole taking a pay cut for Franklin issue.

All we have to offer is money or a place on a list for an older star getting pushed out (ie Chapman)

Both Geelong and Hawthorn have an ageing list which might fit this.

We have had superstars. Superstars are players who are of such a high standard that opposition clubs have to plan for them. I reckon these blokes qualify -

Flower

Peter Moore

Ox

Farmer

These blokes almost qualify -

Lyon

Neitz

Tingay

Current -

Mitch Clark

Up-and-comers -

Hogan

Viney (I am not sure about him but I want more than one so I chucked him in)

lol reminds me of bill and ted's excellent adventure.

To be a most excellent famous band, do we first need eddie van halen to join the band and help us a make a triumphant music video? or do we need a most triumphant music video to get eddie van halen to want to join the band?

dude i think we need to learn how to play instruments first...

Deez, see my post #38

It's the bill and teds excellent adventure conundrum isn't it.

Bill: Ted, while I agree that, in time, our band will be most triumphant, the truth is, Wyld Stallyns will never be a super-band until we get Eddie Van Halen on guitar.

Ted: Yes, Bill, but.... I do not believe we will get Eddie Van Halen before we have a triumphant video.

Bill: Ted, it's pointless to have a triumphant video before we have decent instruments.

Ted: Well, how can we have decent instruments if we don't really even know how to play?

Bill: That is why we need Eddie Van Halen!

Ted: And that is why we need a triumphant video!

Both: [think for a second] EXCELLENT! (guitar riff)

Haha! good job man, word for word. love it.

off topic but isn't that just a great movie.

Flower was the last one I remember

What about the Ox, Gary Lyon, Stephen Tingay and Travis Johnstone? Whitey was up there too until they changed the centre bounce rule.

Didn't Watts make a similar comment last year? And then get torn to shreds in the media about it?

Ox would have been a superstar of the comp other than injuries. Other than that we have had very good players, Lyon, Stynes etc but no Superstar of the comp since Flower.

Haha! good job man, word for word. love it.

off topic but isn't that just a great movie.

Still a classic. a friend posted on Facebook that she was watching it so it was in my mind when this topic started.

Ox would have been a superstar of the comp other than injuries. Other than that we have had very good players, Lyon, Stynes etc but no Superstar of the comp since Flower.

Anyone who wins a Brownlow is definitely in my books a superstar of the game

What about the Ox, Gary Lyon, Stephen Tingay and Travis Johnstone? Whitey was up there too until they changed the centre bounce rule.

I'm too young for Ox, Lyon, and Tingay, but i can tell you right now Johnstone was not a superstar

woewodin was prob a superstar for like one year

We have had a few others h_h

The trouble is they get serious injury / breakdown in there first 20 games

Or succumb to their owns ego's or booze

So true OD.

Like him or not Gary Lyon was an absolute star even though he was cruelled by injury.

Alan Jakovich was also a bona fide star but all to briefly and we would be comparing David Schwarz with Wayne Carey if not for a series of knee ops.