Two first year players mature age rookies feature top 5. Imagine the confidence they get out of this, how it will help shape them as footballers going forward. Its not embarrassing at all, it shows their more talented players whats required and gives them the hunger for more success. Well done to Chunk, Judy, Terlich, Jones and Col.

For the stats minded, here it is adjusted for games played. The number represents the average score out of 7 that each coach gave each player in each game. Bear in mind, things like injuries (particularly in a shortened season like Clark had) and games as the sub will have an impact on these numbers.

Garland 4.29

Nathan Jones 4.15

Frawley 3.94

Viney 3.8269

Terlich 3.825

Sylvia 3.79

Dunn 3.75

= Clisby 3.75

Tom McDonald 3.661

Spencer 3.656

McKenzie 3.58

Matt Jones 3.44

Grimes 3.37

Watts 3.31

Magner 3.25

Evans 3.22

Trengove 3.21

Dawes 3.06

Howe 3.05

Jamar 2.86

Byrnes 2.81

Macdonald 2.75

Pedersen 2.70

Fitzpatrick 2.66

Kent 2.65

Davis 2.63

Davey 2.61

Rodan 2.58

Clark 2.563

Gawn 2.558

Toumpas 2.55

Tapscott 2.48

Nicholson 2.45

Strauss 2.42

Bail 2.41

Jetta 2.40

Sellar 2.07

Gillies 2.00

Blease 1.78

Frawley and Viney leap into the top 4, and Clisby and Spencer are the other significant climbers. The coaches must rate them. On this, Magner clearly deserves more game time (depending on how you classify Grimes, you could argue Magner's our 6th best scoring midfielder), and I don't know what's going on with Sam Blease.

Great breakdown, and probably gives those who disagree with the placing a bit of a better perspective of why it ended up the way it did.

Well done to both Col Garland and Nathan Jones.

Proud of you fellas.

they should rename it from the Best and Fairest to 'whoever plays the most games'

i dont know what the voting system is and how it works but its absolutely terrible

I can't help but feel sorry for the club seeing Terlich and M.Jones finish 3rd and 4th. The fact that these unspectacular, hard working footballers in their mid 20s from state leagues who probably had jobs last year and played footy for the love of it and didn't think they'd reach the AFL can come in and do so well and stay in the team all year so comfortably is full credit to them, but a reality check for everyone at the club at how many underachievers we've had on our list and how poor our development has been.

For the stats minded, here it is adjusted for games played. The number represents the average score out of 7 that each coach gave each player in each game. Bear in mind, things like injuries (particularly in a shortened season like Clark had) and games as the sub will have an impact on these numbers.

Garland 4.29

Nathan Jones 4.15

Frawley 3.94

Viney 3.8269

Terlich 3.825

Sylvia 3.79

Dunn 3.75

= Clisby 3.75

Tom McDonald 3.661

Spencer 3.656

McKenzie 3.58

Matt Jones 3.44

Grimes 3.37

Watts 3.31

Magner 3.25

Evans 3.22

Trengove 3.21

Dawes 3.06

Howe 3.05

Jamar 2.86

Byrnes 2.81

Macdonald 2.75

Pedersen 2.70

Fitzpatrick 2.66

Kent 2.65

Davis 2.63

Davey 2.61

Rodan 2.58

Clark 2.563

Gawn 2.558

Toumpas 2.55

Tapscott 2.48

Nicholson 2.45

Strauss 2.42

Bail 2.41

Jetta 2.40

Sellar 2.07

Gillies 2.00

Blease 1.78

Frawley and Viney leap into the top 4, and Clisby and Spencer are the other significant climbers. The coaches must rate them. On this, Magner clearly deserves more game time (depending on how you classify Grimes, you could argue Magner's our 6th best scoring midfielder), and I don't know what's going on with Sam Blease.

thanks

I can't help but feel sorry for the club seeing Terlich and M.Jones finish 3rd and 4th. The fact that these unspectacular, hard working footballers in their mid 20s from state leagues who probably had jobs last year and played footy for the love of it and didn't think they'd reach the AFL can come in and do so well and stay in the team all year so comfortably is full credit to them, but a reality check for everyone at the club at how many underachievers we've had on our list and how poor our development has been.

yes and it's got to be sobering for the likes of Grimes, Watts, Howe and Trengove who are well down the rankings on where they 'should' be

For the stats minded, here it is adjusted for games played. The number represents the average score out of 7 that each coach gave each player in each game. Bear in mind, things like injuries (particularly in a shortened season like Clark had) and games as the sub will have an impact on these numbers.

Garland 4.29

Nathan Jones 4.15

Frawley 3.94

Viney 3.8269

Terlich 3.825

Sylvia 3.79

Dunn 3.75

= Clisby 3.75

Tom McDonald 3.661

Spencer 3.656

McKenzie 3.58

Matt Jones 3.44

Grimes 3.37

Watts 3.31

Magner 3.25

Evans 3.22

Trengove 3.21

Dawes 3.06

Howe 3.05

Jamar 2.86

Byrnes 2.81

Macdonald 2.75

Pedersen 2.70

Fitzpatrick 2.66

Kent 2.65

Davis 2.63

Davey 2.61

Rodan 2.58

Clark 2.563

Gawn 2.558

Toumpas 2.55

Tapscott 2.48

Nicholson 2.45

Strauss 2.42

Bail 2.41

Jetta 2.40

Sellar 2.07

Gillies 2.00

Blease 1.78

What bothers me is that if those numbers are out of 7, there's only 11 who have got above the "pass mark" of 3.50.

Shows really well what sort of a year it's been. To quote a phrase, "the only way is up".

Well done bananas.

And I think it says they are expecting more from Blease.

And all awards like this are skewed to those who play the most games. As if that in and of itself is a good criticism...

For the stats minded, here it is adjusted for games played. The number represents the average score out of 7 that each coach gave each player in each game. Bear in mind, things like injuries (particularly in a shortened season like Clark had) and games as the sub will have an impact on these numbers.

Garland 4.29

Nathan Jones 4.15

Frawley 3.94

Viney 3.8269

Terlich 3.825

Sylvia 3.79

Dunn 3.75

= Clisby 3.75

Tom McDonald 3.661

Spencer 3.656

McKenzie 3.58

Matt Jones 3.44

Grimes 3.37

Watts 3.31

Magner 3.25

Evans 3.22

Trengove 3.21

Dawes 3.06

Howe 3.05

Jamar 2.86

Byrnes 2.81

Macdonald 2.75

Pedersen 2.70

Fitzpatrick 2.66

Kent 2.65

Davis 2.63

Davey 2.61

Rodan 2.58

Clark 2.563

Gawn 2.558

Toumpas 2.55

Tapscott 2.48

Nicholson 2.45

Strauss 2.42

Bail 2.41

Jetta 2.40

Sellar 2.07

Gillies 2.00

Blease 1.78

Frawley and Viney leap into the top 4, and Clisby and Spencer are the other significant climbers. The coaches must rate them. On this, Magner clearly deserves more game time (depending on how you classify Grimes, you could argue Magner's our 6th best scoring midfielder), and I don't know what's going on with Sam Blease.

Can you please change your alias to Will Hunting?

Nb. I appreciate your post!

How difficult is a 3 2 1 system.... this club loves doing things the hard way.

they should rename it from the Best and Fairest to 'whoever plays the most games'

i dont know what the voting system is and how it works but its absolutely terrible

Huh? You don't understand the system, but you think it's terrible...how does that work?

Huh? You don't understand the system, but you think it's terrible...how does that work?

thats terrible..........isnt it Muriel

they should rename it from the Best and Fairest to 'whoever plays the most games'

i dont know what the voting system is and how it works but its absolutely terrible

Voting system explained:

At the completion of each game, the match committee consisting of the senior coach (Mark Neeld/Neil Craig), plus assistant coaches Jade Rawlings, Brian Royal and Leigh Brown voted using a one to seven ranking system. Seven was the highest a player could receive and one was the lowest. Each player had the opportunity to gain a maximum of 28 votes in each game.

Jones says tonight closes a chapter and in 2014 that chapter will be opened in the brightest possible way. Does Roos open that in the brightest possible way? I hope so

Jones: "I want to see my team mates have success in a winning side and to be proud and respected in the footy community". So do we Nathan so do we

Congrats to Jonsey. He just went full throttle this year and threw himself in everything. He deserved it.

How difficult is a 3 2 1 system.... this club loves doing things the hard way.

I would have thought you just pick the best three. But in todays world everyone has to win a prize so I guess at the club each player has to receive a vote so they dont feel left out.

Ok so the B+F system needs reworking. In some ways this ones been ok because it means for 100 point thrashings you can just give everyone 1 votes but it seems its become a who played the most games as long as they weren't completely useless they polled ok..

I'm not sure if it's 3,2,1 or even 5,4,3,2,1 and you let the coaches have discretion on awarding the 5 and 4 vote depending on team performance but something has to change. It has clearly identified the 2 best players but that's about all it did this year.

So did anyone mingle around with any players and have a chat?

I was at the casino last night. Had a few chats to a few players. Trengove is a champ! Played the big wheel with Aaron davey. It's a good night out to be at the casino if you're a dees fan.

I was at the casino last night. Had a few chats to a few players. Trengove is a champ! Played the big wheel with Aaron davey. It's a good night out to be at the casino if you're a dees fan.

did you ask security staff about the dee player that was rumoured to have been in casino before his flight to Sydney to play gws

and was the answer ,it was a bullchit rumour started on demonland