Did you read the article, Jack?

Sure did but for the purposes of my post I was emphasising the headline and the fact that it's too late for "enough".

AFL to hold a press conf......12.30pm.....Today..

AFL to hold a press conf......12.30pm.....Today..

Exciting isnt it, im watching fox sports now.

Sure did but for the purposes of my post I was emphasising the headline and the fact that it's too late for "enough".

Just checking.

Something journalists should do more of

My mail from last night is add The Filth & Hawthorn to the list.

What i was told....

Remember when Buddy was supposedly injured last year for 6 weeks.

The rumour was he was on 3 strikes but they didnt want to make it public.

So the AFL and NRL will be notified which clubs are involved. Oh god please don't let it be us.

Im not sure I could cope with another investigation. Also I hope the storm are clear.

AFL to hold a press conf......12.30pm.....Today..

On SEN now

AFL is aware of one player from one club possibly taking WADA banned drugs. It is also aware of multiple players from another club possibly taking drugs, but in this instance it may have been done without their knowledge or consent.

He said the AFL is not aware of any other instances of players taking banned drugs.

He identified the second club as Essendon. Would not identify the first player or his club.

The AFL confirms there are potential multiple breaches by the Essendon Football Club in relation to PED use by its players. Posted on twitter

Ok so its Essendon and one other player from another club.

I would guess one of [censored], [censored] or [censored].

If Jobe is stripped of his Brownlow, do you think Sam Mitchell and Trent Cotchin will be awarded charlie?

Gillion hates CW, Bombers are screwed, at the end interview CW asked a question and GM said he couldnt comment, but im sure you will make a comment, he dislikes her, no match fixing uncovered.

Remember when Buddy was supposedly injured last year for 6 weeks.

The rumour was he was on 3 strikes but they didnt want to make it public.

The story that has been buried a bit with all the latest news is the fact that the AFL passed onto to club doctors that player X will not play in certain games last year. The Doctor would then have to tell the coach but he/she could not give the reason why to the coach. Hence a hamstring injury for example.

Essendon and one player - as far as the AFL is currently aware.

If Jobe is stripped of his Brownlow, do you think Sam Mitchell and Trent Cotchin will be awarded charlie?

Probably like the Tour De France

There is now winner fro the years LA won.

Record for those years shows no winner.

But in those years the people who finished in the placings all tested positive down the track.

IMO that is not the case in the AFL in 2012 or is it?

Essendon and one player - as far as the AFL is currently aware.

As far as they have any evidence and are willing to reveal.

As far as they have been told by the ACC.

Can anyone honestly say that the bombers aren't screwed? If the bomber players had PED's injected into them without their knowledge who gave the order to do it? You would think the club doctors were told by someone to do it. Why would someone risk their career without being told to do it? I can't see the heirarchy at Essendon not knowing about this.

Can anyone honestly say that the bombers aren't screwed? If the bomber players had PED's injected into them without their knowledge who gave the order to do it? You would think the club doctors were told by someone to do it. Why would someone risk their career without being told to do it? I can't see the heirarchy at Essendon not knowing about this.

It needs to be proved first though, which can be hard when some of these PED's can't be detected through testing.

Instead they need evidence of them being administered, and of what they were.

Tough to establish.

Phone intercepts, etc. may provide enough evidence, if admissible.

It needs to be proved first though, which can be hard when some of these PED's can't be detected through testing.

Instead they need evidence of them being administered, and of what they were.

Tough to establish.

Phone intercepts, etc. may provide enough evidence, if admissible.

For the bombers it looks as though a best case scenario would be that they were injected without their knowledge of what the drugs were. Which gets the players off the hook but surely the club is knee deep in it.

Can anyone honestly say that the bombers aren't screwed? If the bomber players had PED's injected into them without their knowledge who gave the order to do it? You would think the club doctors were told by someone to do it. Why would someone risk their career without being told to do it? I can't see the heirarchy at Essendon not knowing about this.

There was a while there when I thought we'd gone too early putting the boot into the bombers..... Seems like this is not the case!

Happy days

Rot in hell bombers 1871 - 2013

And I hop the payer accused of taking peds is [censored]

For the bombers it looks as though a best case scenario would be that they were injected without their knowledge of what the drugs were. Which gets the players off the hook but surely the club is knee deep in it.

How does it get players off the hook??

They'd still be competing with other players whilst maintaining an unfair advantage.

The players would still be suspended, but maybe only for the minimum 2 years.

And I hop the payer accused of taking peds is [censored]

I don't.

I don't think it's [the player whose name has been censored], and I have a feeling he'll find another way to get himself a hefty suspension...

For the bombers it looks as though a best case scenario would be that they were injected without their knowledge of what the drugs were. Which gets the players off the hook but surely the club is knee deep in it.

I don't think that would be enough to get the players off the hook if the drugs are found to be illegal, ignorance is no excuse particularly if they were told it was right on the edge and it would improve performance.