from bomebr blitz;

Someone on another clubs coterie told me two Victorian clubs. One pretty wealthy club (assuming Collingwood, Carlton or Hawthorn) and one club that is known for being battlers (Melbourne, North, Doggies, Saints[?]).

oh man i hope we arent involved!

page 27:

The ACC has identified specific high-performance staff, sports scientists and

coaches within some codes who have condoned and/or orchestrated the administration

of prohibited substances, and substances not yet approved for human consumption,

to players.

In some cases, peptides and other substances were administered to players without

them understanding the nature of the substances, and without the knowledge of the

team doctor or club medical staff.

It's getting BIGGER.http://www.crimecommission.gov.au/sites/default/files/files/organised-crime-and-drugs-in-sports-feb2013.pdfMultiple codes, multiple sports.Surely couldn't have been us though right?Might even explain us falling away seemingly...

IF we were sold performance enhancing drugs any time over the past five years, I would be demanding (i) drug analysis and (ii) a refund

Report page 17 is dynamite.....

Elite Athletes 15

Widespread use of peptides has been identified, or is suspected by the ACC, in a number

of professional sporting codes in Australia. Although the use of peptides appears to be

more widespread in some major codes, individuals from a number of other sports are also

suspected of using peptides.

Multiple players (in one code) from a number of clubs are suspected of currently using or

having previously used peptides, which could constitute an anti-doping rule violation.16

Some players have also been identified as sourcing peptides for personal use. An instance

of team-based doping, orchestrated by some club officials and coaching staff, has also been

identified.

Apart from the peptide’s anabolic effects, it has been found that injured elite athletes,

particularly players from one sporting code, have been using peptides to assist in

rehabilitating soft tissue injuries.

While the level of suspected use of peptides varies between sporting codes, officials

from one club have been identified as administering, via injections and intravenous drips,

a variety of substances, possibly including peptides. Moreover, the substances were

administered at levels which were possibly in breach of WADA anti-doping rules. This

activity was orchestrated by some club officials and the club’s high performance unit.

While intelligence confirms the use of peptides in major sporting codes, it further suggests

that individuals in a range of other codes may also be using peptides.

Join the dots..

Bye bye Bombers

from bomebr blitz;

Someone on another clubs coterie told me two Victorian clubs. One pretty wealthy club (assuming Collingwood, Carlton or Hawthorn) and one club that is known for being battlers (Melbourne, North, Doggies, Saints[?]).

oh man i hope we arent involved!

With the amount of leak's we've had I'm sure it would have come out by now.

from bomebr blitz;

Someone on another clubs coterie told me two Victorian clubs. One pretty wealthy club (assuming Collingwood, Carlton or Hawthorn) and one club that is known for being battlers (Melbourne, North, Doggies, Saints[?]).

oh man i hope we arent involved!

The soft tissue injuries are the giveaway I believe (funny how we become instant experts,,,)

The other teams in recent memory that have had that are the Pies and St Kilda,,,,,

page 27:

The ACC has identified specific high-performance staff, sports scientists and

coaches within some codes who have condoned and/or orchestrated the administration

of prohibited substances, and substances not yet approved for human consumption,

to players.

In some cases, peptides and other substances were administered to players without

them understanding the nature of the substances, and without the knowledge of the

team doctor or club medical staff.

ASADA have however clearly stated that ignorance is no defence.

Hilarious selection of comments from Essendon supporters in the 'Hun today.

"As a lifelong supporter of the Essendon Football Club I will be tearing up my membership."

"As a 71.y.o lifelong supporter, I am finished with this club. To imagine these practices could go on unnoticed by club officials on the scale it appears to have done beggars belief. 100 years of proud tradition wiped out."

"As an Essendon supporter I think the club should not be able to play for premiership points this year and should be stripped of all draft picks. You do the crime you do the time."

Talk about perception becoming reality!

Yeah. We've never seen those kind of comments on here before.

With the amount of leak's we've had I'm sure it would have come out by now.

Probably, but we didn't hear much about Essendon till just before the Crime Commission's report was released just now.

Probably, but we didn't hear much about Essendon till just before the Crime Commission's report was released just now.

Interestingly I was just thinking that - presumably, like the AFL Integrity mob, the Crime Commission leaks.

page 28:

The ACC has identified a range of substances that have limited to no history of use

in humans, are not approved for human use, or their use is considered ‘off-label’.

Substances being administered to players include:

• afamelanotide and melanocyte stimulating hormone (Melanotan™ I and II)

• AOD-9604—an anti-obesity drug currently going through human clinic trials

• Cerebrolysin™—a peptide extract from pig brain which is used to treat

alzheimer’s and stroke victims

• a form of Interleukin not prohibited by WADA—used in the treatment of burns

and inflammation associated with trauma (some other forms of Interleukin are

prohibited by WADA)

• TA-65™—a drug which acts on a section of the DNA and is purported to reduce

ageing at the cellular level

• Actovegin™—calf blood extract (used by a route of administration which is not

prohibited by WADA).

While these substances are not prohibited by WADA, due to a lack of long-term clinical

studies on the use of these substances or their ‘off-label’ use, their potential impact on

the health of players—both short and long-term—is unknown.

The apparent willingness of some high-performance coaches, trainers and sports

scientists to administer WADA-prohibited and experimental drugs and their advocacy

of ‘off-label’ substance use, raises concerns over the welfare of players who are being

administered these substances and broader issues for sports administrators in Australia.

It was also identified that some high-performance coaching staff utilised medical staff
rom outside their respective clubs to administer substances to players. In some cases,

the medical staff administering these substances were not communicating with the

appointed team doctors nor advising team doctors of the treatments or substances

being administered to players. No party appeared to be maintaining comprehensive

medical records in relation to treatments being given to players. (my underlining).

I actually find those comments a little sad, because I know how I would feel if it was the Dees in that position.

I understand the sentiment hardtack but i'm also amused at the inability to distinguish between allegation and fact ..

Probably, but we didn't hear much about Essendon till just before the Crime Commission's report was released just now.

Thats actually the point ( as I see it )

We seem to have notoriously developed leaks over recent times that surely had such an occurrence happened then the same dark lods tha move mysteroiusly amongst us plotting Board downfalls etc would have jumped at this trump. It didnt and hasnt.

Essendon were ( emphasis on were ) better at such containments.

The Bombers if they arent too careful might join the ranks of such notables as ANA TAA Compass Impulse and Strategic !!

Vic Pol presser on now:

Aust Crime Comm report "is more extensive than the report released today"

Vic Pol saying cant say much and cant talk about telephone intercepts (sounds like there may well be intercepts).

"Report opens up other lines of enquiry."

As i said before dynamite.....

Vic Pol presser on now:

Aust Crime Comm report "is more extensive than the report released today"

As in - they have names and will prosecute?

Vic Pol saying cant say much and cant talk about telephone intercepts (sounds like there may well be intercepts).

"Report opens up other lines of enquiry."

As i said before dynamite.....

Hiroshima Bombers ?????

from bomebr blitz;

Someone on another clubs coterie told me two Victorian clubs. One pretty wealthy club (assuming Collingwood, Carlton or Hawthorn) and one club that is known for being battlers (Melbourne, North, Doggies, Saints[?]).

oh man i hope we arent involved!

Yeah looks like J Watts is on the junk, christ it took the kid 4 yrs to put on 10kgs, theres no way its us.

As in - they have names and will prosecute?

No doubt from earlier presser is that they have names but cant release them for obvious statutory restrictions not to mention, operational and privacy reasons.

Vic Pol saying use of performance enhancing drugs more problematic from a prosecution point of view but use of illicit drugs and fixing will be subject to possible prosecution.

Vic Pol:

"Competition design is a risk factor around match fixing."

Interestingly I was just thinking that - presumably, like the AFL Integrity mob, the Crime Commission leaks.

I don't think it has. The AFL has leaked about us for months. Clearly to organize today's presser the Crime Commission had to inform lots of people, politicians, various codes and print the report. It is quite likely there would be a leak at a late stage, for example 2 days ago a supporter of a certain club working at the printers.... gosh I could take CW's job,

A bit off topic, but: You've got to hand it to journos. Here is the first few sentences by M Robinson today:

UNQUESTIONABLY, James Hird would have asked himself in recent days whether he should resign as Essendon coach.

The answer is no. Resign for what?

That Hird even contemplated the question tells us the weight of responsibility he feels.

Sentence 1 - speculation

Sentence 3 - written as if the speculation was fact.

It may be that I've missed seeing elsewhere (and before this article was written) that Hird had said he had considered reigning, but then sentence 1 is wrong.

What a difference one letter can make>

Yeah looks like J Watts is on the junk, christ it took the kid 4 yrs to put on 10kgs, theres no way its us.

Im just paranoid! Misson and Craig are cutting edge sports scientists afterall!

But you're right, Morton didnt bulk up last year so we couldnt have been on anythig decent

I don't think it has. The AFL has leaked about us for months. Clearly to organize today's presser the Crime Commission had to inform lots of people, politicians, various codes and print the report. It is quite likely there would be a leak at a late stage, for example 2 days ago a supporter of a certain club working at the printers.... gosh I could take CW's job,

Clearly ACC does not leak that would be extraordinary and explains why Essendon suddenly knew about it. No doubt they were told what was going to be in the report release today over the weekend.

Doubt the AFL knew much earlier.

surf's up !!